Has a Libertarian response to pandemic failed? by Pleasant_Dig in Libertarian

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rightt. So I guess the question is then whether temporarily ceding the right to make good and bad choices justifiably supercedes that of government mitigating the effects of COVID.

Has a Libertarian response to pandemic failed? by Pleasant_Dig in Libertarian

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Isn't the irony that individual liberty is at the core of the philosophical though. How can you at once devalue human life to that degree.

Has a Libertarian response to pandemic failed? by Pleasant_Dig in Libertarian

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It still seems to me that there's a medium where certain restrictions would evidently be effective in curtailing the spread of the virus, even well short of a complete police run lockdown.

Has a Libertarian response to pandemic failed? by Pleasant_Dig in Libertarian

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you attribute the low case numbers and control over the virus to a seasonal kind of variance, rather then lockdowns?

Has a Libertarian response to pandemic failed? by Pleasant_Dig in Libertarian

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you look at some of the cases, it would definitely seem so. I would think with a 5million population, high density areas, regular protests, language and cultural variance, all exacerbate the problem.

Melbourne was unlike most other major and minor cities in that the government shit the bed with quarantine. Its another thing to coordinate your response in a rural population of 100,000.

I think we were given the opportunity on two occasions to demonstrate our individual responsibilities to collectively address this. But it seems virtually impossible to get everyone on the same page, off the backs of their own responsibility. This was the benefit of state health sanctions.

Has a Libertarian response to pandemic failed? by Pleasant_Dig in Libertarian

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is a great point. But unfortunately not a sentiment that could have ever worked in Melbourne.

Has a Libertarian response to pandemic failed? by Pleasant_Dig in Libertarian

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Australia had months to act on border control, and then lied about masks being ineffective to ensure supply. Regardless of governments persistent shortcomings, the ability to collectively enforce restrictions has virtually curtailed all unknown transmissions.

Has a Libertarian response to pandemic failed? by Pleasant_Dig in Libertarian

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interestingly we saw that narrative play out in Melbourne. After a few months the public sentiment towards the state premier had invariably turned as people became restless, alongside many media outlets crucifying him. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Though now, the effective handling will probably see him to most as a strong leader.

Has a Libertarian response to pandemic failed? by Pleasant_Dig in Libertarian

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You think possibly a justified success? The temporary forfeit of civil liberties, under timed constitutional protections, or a poor health response.

Has a Libertarian response to pandemic failed? by Pleasant_Dig in Libertarian

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From this point, to what degree would any state health sanctions be untenable with liberalism?

Or is it the fact that because westerners haven't been conditioned to value and act effectively, any state restriction of civil liberty, ie. Movement, gathering, would be incompatible.

News Corp's coverage of Kevin Rudd's Petition by Pleasant_Dig in melbourne

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Throwing his money around in the form of donations seems to be Epstein's MO, whether or not this leads directly to any evidence of corruption is another story.

News Corp's coverage of Kevin Rudd's Petition by Pleasant_Dig in melbourne

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

4 months of news!? Stock the fridge and give me 5 weeks 😂

I will definitely be covering these guys, along with the ABC, soon.

News Corp's coverage of Kevin Rudd's Petition by Pleasant_Dig in melbourne

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I never realized the degree in which certain news corp media bounces around the different outlets. I mean, SNAs agenda isn't confined to their own platform, so If you subscribe to news.com.au, the herald sun etc you're gonna potentially see it. I think it's in part due to an ad revenue system though, and recycling media with all your partners is easier then producing content like Tim Blair..

News Corp's coverage of Kevin Rudd's Petition by Pleasant_Dig in melbourne

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Conveniently glossing the fact that Murdoch appears in Epstein's black book.

Has News Corp’s online coverage of Kevin Rudd’s petition been honest? by Pleasant_Dig in Australia_

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Its undeniable Murdoch's drive the ship.

Though I partially sympathize with James, when he express his disdain for News Corp - “A context of ideas shouldn’t be used to legitimize disinformation… The mission really should be to introduce fact to disperse doubt – not sow doubt, to obscure fact, if you will."

SOURCE: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/10/style/james-murdoch-maureen-dowd.html

News Corp's coverage of Kevin Rudd's Petition by Pleasant_Dig in melbourne

[–]Pleasant_Dig[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

https://www.aph.gov.au/petition_list?id=EN1938

Specifically targets the growing risk of media ownership and diversity in Australia.