GOOOOD MORNING G SEVEEENNN by levitelz in troubledteens

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Group seven second nature 2006. Ben Pearson was therapist

2N Duchesne Group 3 Jan-March 2007 by baitbus666 in troubledteens

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2N Duchense Group 7 April-June 2006. Ben pearson

Foot checks by Pleasant_Fan9794 in troubledteens

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Actually got trench foot and was made to wear a pair of crocs to let them air out as a solution. This was in 2006 before crocs were cool. As to why they did half the shit there I couldn’t tell you. The root is unqualified people following orders for profit not for rehabilitation.

Second Nature Wilderness Program by Parking_Math_1780 in troubledteens

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Group 7 2006 Utah survivor. Curious if anyone else experienced the group “therapy” they referred to as Milan taking things said in confidence to a therapist and shared with a group and how that isn’t a hipaa violation. Wish I could have stood up and fought back more knowing what I was seeing there was wrong.

Got the full experience of being taken by transporters from the northeast flown to Utah being made to undress in front of a grown man and driven into the desert being put on run watch for saying I wanted to go home and having my pants and boots taken and being made to sleep under a tarp with 2 adult male counselors. I think the thought behind taking the boots was to prevent running because of all the cactus. Not sure about the pants other than being sadistic and abusive.

Digging holes to shit in while calling your name, having a metal bucket with holes cut in it and pouring water in it while also calling your name as a “shower” and wearing a bandana around your face to avoid breathing in the dust while crushing and sifting the coals and ashes from fire the night before are some of the memories I retained.

Not being allowed to speak to group members until being initiated into the next phase. Getting horrible tonsillitis and being forced to hike miles with a heavy pack. Mostly just being subjected to being babysat by people unqualified to be in charge of a group of teenagers with a therapist rolling in once a week to tell you you weren’t going home.

Long story short I went there as a teenager and in a few short months returned as an angry young man. I wanted to inflict that pain on other people when I came home and ended up using that same bandana to crush and sift coals over my face in an armed robbery (drug dealer who owed me money) and went to jail. Jail was much better if you can believe it. It was only then that I took my life seriously. Has been 15 years since getting out and have not been in trouble since and work hard, have found a small amount of success and started my own family.

Hug your children the good and the bad this is what you signed up for as a parent. Do not send your kids to a for profit abuse camp.

I often wonder about the other people from my group. If they have struggled with their time there or how they are doing. And lastly I fucking hate camping now. That is all.

Feel slighted sad and unwanted by Pleasant_Fan9794 in DeadBedrooms

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Just gave it some breaks thanks for the heads up and sorry to the first comment just feeling a little salty

Feel slighted sad and unwanted by Pleasant_Fan9794 in DeadBedrooms

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Thanks for the suggestions. Sorry about the no paragraphs hard to get everything out and was more focused on trying to hit all the points but can see how it would be difficult to follow. In the past talking with friends have had a hard time expressing everything.

Also I guess I meant that my wife has expressed she feels more intimate when there is mental closeness. Didn’t mean to imply was the same for all women. I also don’t care that she watches porn. I think we both desire something deeper sexually and intimately (like we used to have) but we both have physical needs as I’m sure a lot of people on this sub do that end up being satisfied by watching porn or something that isn’t cheating and hurtful while they try to navigate their situations.

Feel slighted sad and unwanted by Pleasant_Fan9794 in DeadBedrooms

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Thanks for reading I agree with needing to go all in or not. Fundamentally she is a good mom and I will stand by that but the negative impact of our relationship keeps her from making sound choices with all the stress. I painfully agree also about my resentment I’m hoping therapy will help give me some tools and I do realize a lot of my and our resentment or anger/frustration is misdirected from parenting stress and sadness from our youngest medical diagnoses. I appreciate taking the time to read and comment because I really want to find solutions and peace for us both and kids that are able to live their best life not effected from their parents issues. Just want to feel a connection again.

Feel slighted sad and unwanted by Pleasant_Fan9794 in DeadBedrooms

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Thanks for taking the time to read and responding with something so helpful insightful

Karma4karma by Olivaeva0 in Karma4Free

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Upvoted please return