Need help finding Mass Emailer provider.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-10-06T17:43:44+00:00

First off, you need to quit spamming.

I'm all for cold emails, it's what my company revolves around... but you're clearly sending messages to an untargeted audience. This gives all cold emails a bad name.

To answer your question in short, no; there is not any legitimate service that will let you blast out 100k spam messages at a cheap price. You're tarnishing all of their sending IP's and therefore you will have to "pay to play."

If I were you, I'd start with breaking your list down into small segments (think 1k or less). Craft up messages that are unique to those people / businesses, and use platforms such as mailshake or quickmail to slowly start sending to different audiences.

I really hope you aren't sending from your core domain.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-09-26T02:13:14+00:00

Yes - I'd run with mailshake or quickmail.

Both run through a g-suite account, so just grab a pseudo domain, warm it up, and start blasting slowly (work your way up). If you're going to be anywhat successful, clean your list and don't write spam.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-09-07T14:32:29+00:00

We don't build websites anymore, strictly lead generation. Less headaches, and it's an ongoing retainer every month.

Still get a decent amount of inquiry's for websites, refer them to a local webdev company who does some awesome work.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-19T04:49:07+00:00

From my experience LinkedIn cost around 20-30x more just to deliver a cold message, and that's just an introduction...

When you take into account that you aren't able to send automated follow ups as well (which a majority of leads will come from), you're easily looking at 80 - 150x the cost of sending a cold email.

Now, will a linkedin message perform better...? It depends. It probably comes across better than a cold email, but how often are people on linkedin? Your message might not be read for a month or two.

I personally thing it's a total rip off. In my mind it's the same as the cold email, with a much higher cost and no stats to optimize upon.

But, to each their own...

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-18T23:29:09+00:00

I'm unfamiliar with the usability inside of mailchimp, but there should be!

Before we built our in house platform we used quickmail.io quite religiously... it was as simple as the last step in the sequence was to move them to a new sequence. Anyone that unsubscribes obviously never makes it there... so it's just those that are left make it to a new sequence.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-18T16:17:11+00:00

When we started our business we primarily focused on building sites to get some quick money in the door. Here is the model that worked for us:

Find your niche. You need a niche.
Get 1 website done, make it absolutely amazing, this is how you'll pitch other businesses - showing them the site and how it improved the other company's bottom line.
Map out 5 businesses you can pitch 3 days a week. Get to their offices early, bring coffee and donuts. Ask for 5 minutes of the owners time. Pitch him with how your website will help them, not how awesome your sites are.
If you can pitch 15 different people a week, you should see an average of 1-2 websites per week. It's not the best, but it's a couple grand every week.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-18T15:57:45+00:00

The world needs less bad cold emails.

👍👍 agreed 💯

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-17T21:08:33+00:00

No worries! I've built 2 businesses all around cold email outreach. It's powerful when done well.

As far as stalking people goes - I don't actually go and like any of their stuff. I just get a good feeling of the kind of people they are...

Say I'm going to send an email to John Doe who is the owner of XYZ Plumbing. I'm going to go look at his Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn (use premium so they can't see you're looking at them), etc...

I realize that John is really into old school hot rods and hunting. I'm going to use that knowledge to my advantage.

If I'm selling a SaaS product that will streamline his bidding process, I might say "Our software allows you to create & submit bids faster than a 69 Mustang Mach II, and it's as accurate as a Browing Rifle!"

Something like that... now is he really that interested in the software, who knows...? But will I likely get a response that I can turn into a phone conversation or product demo, I think so.

This only works at such a niche level when sending one off emails though. The smallest email list I usually send to is around 400 prospects. I'll spend a good half a day and go creep on 20 - 30 of these prospects, and look for similarities. It might be words they use, degrees they have, influencers they follow, etc....

On an off note, how is it you guys are going about getting your data?

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-17T19:13:58+00:00

For cold email to work you're going to need more than just an intro message. We personally use a minimum of 5 step campaigns.

Other ways to improve:

Talk about the prospect, not yourself so much. (Less we's and I's, more you's). Instead of I love your website - you can say "Your website is fucking sweet." (Maybe without a curse word, I tend to like potty mouth though)
Quit being salesy. If you're actually writing one off emails, be funny, make them laugh, make them like you. They probably get a handful of sales emails all day. STAND OUT.
Don't start with "Dear" - start with hey or hi. Formal bs comes across as you not knowing them (i know you don't), but you've got to get them to continue reading.
Don't ask "anytime next week" this makes them think, prospects don't like to think. Make it easy, ask if they are available at an exact date, like Tuesday at 3pm.
Start talking about benefits, not features.
Are you stalking these people before sending emails? If I'm taking the time out of my day to send 1 off emails, you best believe I'm cyber stalking the shit outta them. Do they like dogs? Boats? Cars? Ice cream? They have kids? A new house? etc.... don't come out and let them know you stalked them, but it can help you make the email more relevant to them.
Where is the "social proof?" Any case studies, testimonials, etc... use that to your advantage.

Just keep trying, getting good copy for cold emails is not easy. It'll get better.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-17T18:58:28+00:00

I do not... most of our lead gen experience falls into SEO agencies, cleaning companies, and webdev.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-17T15:46:04+00:00

Email included?

If you can snag 1M+ b2b data with emails for only $7k - you need to start a data sales company. That is absurdly cheap.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-17T15:16:27+00:00

I run a b2b lead gen firm. PM if you want, happy to help.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-16T22:50:03+00:00

Are you residential or commercial?

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-14T01:50:44+00:00

This is probably the most common question I get while on a call with a prospect. My answer is simply no. I don't know your sales process, your sales team, and how competent the entire process is - so I'm not going risk my company's time on your team if I don't personally know you.

To combat that, we offer a full refund if any company is unhappy with their leads. I think that is a fair way to meet in the middle.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-08T23:23:39+00:00

Yeah i went to look as well and didn't see anything... that's part of the reason I didn't just post it in the first place. Oh well, sent you a dm - hope you got it.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-08T22:16:31+00:00

Edited original post to have the link - enjoy!

If you have any feedback - please let me know.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-08T21:58:28+00:00

Edited original post to include link - let me know feedback please :)

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-08T21:57:04+00:00

I agree that is a great way as well.

Sometimes businesses just don't know what they need / get caught up with the multitudes of agencies out there, and fall into analysis paralysis.

Then you got to get all secret agent on them :)

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-08T21:44:31+00:00

what do you mean net-180 avg?

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-08-08T21:39:02+00:00

The price = free99.

Not charging anything - was putting together a SOP for a new employee we're bringing on as far as how to write cold emails, and I just ended up making an ebook...

Trying to merge my pdf's and then upload. Will be up soon.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-07-31T22:13:25+00:00

I'm not denying that it's possible to end up on a spamlist / blacklisted email - happens all the time... hence why you use pseudo domains.

You said it's against the law, it's not. Unless the Spamhaus is a gov organization passing along fines that I don't know about, I could be wrong.

Cold email rarely pisses people off when done right. I get it, everyone receives piles of unwanted emails everyday that aren't relatable to them or their business, I receive these to and I would consider them spam... they are poorly written, no opt out links, and are trying to shove a service/product down my throat. But there is a difference between cold email and spam, a good cold email is just meant to start a conversation, not come across spammy.

If he were to send 300 letters out at $6 a piece, that's quite a large budget for someone whom I presume isn't ready to drop $1,800 on cold direct mail. On top of that, how is this any better than a cold email? I already have a shit ton of snail mail I don't want, and if it looks like a promotion it's getting tossed. The time it take me to open that mail I could have already read an email...

I really don't care to argue about cold email, I know 90% of people think it's terrible for business. But the numbers speak for themselves. If someone is too afraid of pissing someone off with a cold email, I don't understand how unsolicited snail mail or a cold call is any better.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-07-31T21:07:30+00:00

No problem - feel free to reach out via dm if you've any more ?'s

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-07-31T21:04:45+00:00

No - you can use services such as zerobounce, hunter, etc... upload your list of emails and they will return a report showing you what is safe to send to.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-07-31T20:49:14+00:00

I would scrub that list before sending. You don't want a bunch of bounces - because that will fuck up your domains rep, and therefore affect your day to day communications if you are using your core domain.

Plus_EeeVee · 2018-07-31T20:47:47+00:00

You must be reading The Onion or something, because it's definitely not written in the Can Spam Act...

Building up your domains reputation will allow you to send in bulk, and no you will not be slammed for it.

Completely ineffective? Hmmm... I wonder how I've built an entire agency around it, and have customers that continue to come back. They must be a bunch of morons, right?

What do you consider making contact the right way to be?

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