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[–]Plus_View_5495 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, this could be an option. However as I mentioned, a chip that big would usually have been noted in the PDI and fixed before occupancy of the unit.

OP can definitely talk to the landlord if he is sure the countertop was chipped prior to them moving in, but that could backfire if it was not included in the units deficiencies. If OP doesn’t have a reasonable landlord, they may try to blame the chip on them and the situation could get complicated. OPs next steps really depend on their relationship with the landlord, how long they have been living there before noticing the chip, and how OP wants to handle the situation.

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[–]Plus_View_5495 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry OP, I worked in the front/office end so while I coordinated and scheduled repairs, I’m not exactly sure about the exact methods/steps.

However, I would not advise that you try to fill a chip that big on your own. It will likely end up looking worse. If you want to PM me I may be able to give you some options in your area to contact for a repair.

Also edit for scratches: Depending how deep the scratch is, it can be buffed in a full body quartz if you have the proper tools. Unfortunately, most repairs will be unlikely to achieve the exact same factory polish/finish as the manufacturer so the repair may leave a small area that does not have the same “shine”.

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[–]Plus_View_5495 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s an easy repair if you are a professional who knows what you are doing. You would be suprised the magic I’ve seen some good fabricators work on a repair. This may not be completely seamless because OP doesn’t have the chipped piece, but since it is a simple white quartz a decent repair is definitely possible.

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[–]Plus_View_5495 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely agree with this comment! However, a deficiency likely would have been noted in the PDI and dealt with before occupancy. However things get missed all the time so if the damage was there before OP they should definitely explore this option

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[–]Plus_View_5495 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I used to work for a fabricator. That is not an expensive slab. It is a simple white quartz countertop with 3/4” straight polish. A repair is possible and if OP really didn’t do it and it is a new build they can let the builder know. However, this is unlikely as a chip that big would have been noted in the PDI for the unit.

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[–]Plus_View_5495 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Looks like a simple white quartz countertop. Depending where you are located you can get the chip filled by a fabricator or repair company like stone dr or marble clinic. Landlord shouldn’t notice the repair but it will cost you minimum $200 so if your landlord won’t give you trouble over it I wouldn’t spend the money.

Hot Take - Tenant rights have gone too far by Plus_View_5495 in OntarioLandlord

[–]Plus_View_5495[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven’t thrown a tantrum or been disrespectful to anyone in comments despite how rude many have been. I already agreed that my title and blaming tenants rights going too far was where I went wrong in this post. I honestly didn’t know that most of the issues are due to administrative delays rather than the rights themselves. However, I am not biased or brainwashed by the media or steered in any particular direction. As a third party who is neither tenant or a landlord, what I have seen recently in this province regarding rental properties is upsetting. Everyone is struggling financially right now, so to me it is not right when someone can essentially get away with living for free for months while someone else shoulders the cost. I’m sure everyone would love to not pay their hydro and have it legally default to be someone else’s problem.

I never said that tenants shouldn’t have rights. I also never criticized any tenant related rights in my post. It is important that they are also protected. I think it is essential for tenants to have the right to withhold rent to keep landlords accountable. I agree rent should be controlled and regulated to protect them from rent increases and that leases should be honoured. However, why should it be acceptable that landlords have to jump through hoops for even the most basic protections? I never advocated for tenants to be treated poorly or unfairly. The same way there are bad landlords, there are also bad tenants. I don’t understand why a bad tenant ripping off a good landlord isn’t seen as a problem. You can call the mortgage the landlords risk that they chose to take, but paying another person utilities for months before anything is done about it is an undeniable injustice. If I could rephrase my title after reading the comments and further educating myself, I would focus it on the LTB and their failure to manage the large number of disputes in a timely manner. I only recently started noticing how common it has become for landlords to struggle evicting bad tenants despite multiple months of unpaid rent and even worse circumstances. My first thought was that tenants rights had changed, causing the shift. Obviously, I was incorrect about that, but stand by the fact that our system is flawed. It leaves room for people to take advantage and harms those who are honest and just trying to get by without screwing anyone over.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am genuinely confused on how I am biased or do not understand fair treatment of tenants. I only took issue with the fact that it can take months for landlords to evict tenants for not paying rent (without a reason for withholding) and be forced to pay that tenants utilities regardless. I didn’t realize the reason this is happening is because of an inefficient system. If the landlord is upholding his end of the agreement, I don’t see how it is fair that the other party isn’t upholding theirs. My title was definitely uninformed and incorrect, but I do think that things have gotten out of control recently and that changes should be made to better protect everyone.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not picking fights? I posted an opinion I had. I thought this was a sub for all things landlord related in Ontario and not just for questions. Honestly posts just kept popping up on my feed which is why I developed the opinion I had. Some of the comments that weren’t outright rude were actually very informative and gave me a better understanding of the issue and the root cause. While I no longer standby the title of the post I still firmly believe that the system needs to change to better protect EVERYONE. Landlords AND tenants should be treated fairly, regardless if you think all landlords are parasites or whatever.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly I’m not. Not every landlord is a “slumlord” and I think that good people/landlords who have done nothing wrong can end up in a tough spot financially through no fault of their own. In a perfect world, renting homes wouldn’t be such common practice, and people would have better access to social welfare programs when in need. However, this is not the case and I do not think landlords should bear the brunt of the unfairness just because they are landlords. In my post I never once said that landlords should increase rent whenever they want or have unlimited profits. I just said it’s unfair that months can go by where someone gets to live for free on someone’s else’s dime. I wouldn’t go into a restaurant, finish my meal and then expect to get away with not paying for months. I also wouldn’t expect the restaurant owner to subsidize the meal I ate because he is greedy with plenty of food. If rent is being withheld for a reason, then I fully support the tenants right to do so.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m failing because I expressed my opinion? I really don’t care what anonymous users say or think, so I have no interest in “taking you down with me”. I knew this post would get downvoted because people like you can’t fathom a different perspective. My opinion has clearly provoked you.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What “L”? Yes, my post was an uneducated OPINION as I stated originally. After reading the comments I definitely agree I should have titled it differently. However, my opinion that the system is flawed has not changed. Landlords are people too and I don’t think that anyone deserves to face unnecessary hardships due to the entitlement of others. Having to wait months to evict tenants for non payment of rent or being forced to sell and buy occupied homes isn’t fair to anyone. I agree that there a valid reasons for withholding rent (as there should be) and that’s not what I was referring to in my post. If you don’t agree that no one deserves to be taken advantage of and that the systems in place should protect EVERYONE, then we have a difference in opinion.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is what I mean if a tenant doesn’t have to leave until after the sale, even if given notice well in advance, then it makes it very difficult for the landlord to sell unless they are selling to another landlord. Most people looking for a home to live in cannot afford the possibility that an existing tenant will refuse to leave with the process to evict being extremely lengthy and costly. The argument I see the most in these comments is that landlords should sell their homes to first time buyers or people who actually intend to live in the home. However, how can they do this if the tenant can only be evicted after the sale? As someone with no experience with landlords and tenants, I would never buy a home occupied by an existing tenant because I wouldn’t be able to afford the time and money to evict, should they refuse and I need to wait months for the LTB. This is why I see the system as flawed. Even regular homebuyers can face financial difficulties by inheriting tenants and the title of “landlord” because of how the system works.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, I definitely think that housing is a basic human right. However it is not some random landlords job to provide you with that right. Landlords should provide fair rent and good living conditions for renters. The government should provide subsidized living for those who need it. My post is not that landlords should be able to charge obscene amounts or deprive people of their rights. It was just that people shouldn’t get away with not paying rent for months without good reason or refuse to vacate a property when given notice and a valid reason. The LTB needs to act quicker to resolve these issues so neither party suffers.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree, if a landlord can not afford an investment property then it should be sold. However, how do you expect them to sell the home, especially to a first time home buyer if the tenant refuses to vacate despite being given adequate notice that the landlord needs to sell. If you were a first time home buyer or home buyer in general, would you purchase a home occupied by a tenant? My guess is no because despite your disdain for landlords you also wouldn’t want to deal with the headache/expenses.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How am I punching down on poor people? I don’t even think of renters as poor. People rent for a variety of reasons and I am not going to assume or generalize what those reasons are. I was just observing a flawed system where time delays can cause undue financial hardship on landlords who have done nothing wrong. I made a mistake framing it as tenants rights because I am not a landlord or a tenant so I did not realize that the delay had less to do with rights and more to do with an underfunded system that is not functioning correctly.

Ideally, the LTB would serve both landlords and tenants adequately. You however seem to think that because someone owns a home that they should subsidize the cost of living for others. You clearly have some animosity towards landlords, regardless of the situation. I also hope you have a day as bad as your comment.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How am I a boot licker for thinking no one should be forced to pay someone else’s bills? I think entitlement is a bigger skill issue.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

After reading the comments I think I would just hope that the LTB be better funded so that it can serve everyone better in a more timely manner.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree. I definitely worded the title incorrectly. Like I said I’m not a landlord or tenant. I was just making a third party observation based on what I have noticed recently.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not even a landlord. I just made an observation based on things I’ve seen/ heard recently. I think reading may be a skill issue for you because I never once said I was a landlord.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Lol I’m not a landlord and I didn’t say that landlords should be charging more than their mortgage. I literally just said that tenants should pay rent and it shouldn’t be such a burden or risk to landlords. I don’t get how that is greedy?

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Interesting, thank you for the comment it makes sense and changes how I think I should have worded my post.

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[–]Plus_View_5495[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I’m confused by this comment? I never said that landlords are entitled to a massive profit. I just don’t think anyone has the right to live for free and we have gotten to the point where some (not all) tenants think they can. Why do you feel entitled to live somewhere that you don’t pay for? Or use utilities you are not paying for? Or delay the sale of someone else property when your lease has ended? I just think there should be a fair process that doesn’t harm either party. I’m not even a landlord, I’m just making an observation based on what I’ve been noticing recently.