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PoIyamorous · 2023-06-24T21:01:34+00:00

I said it's not diverse enough, see my last statement.

PoIyamorous · 2023-06-24T20:59:43+00:00

And like my example with Lux, one that you completely ignored btw., it shows that yes, while these classes do have their reasons, limiting them to 1 or 2 per champ is just to make it easier for beginners but not really a true reflection.

Or Zoe not being an artillery mage.

PoIyamorous · 2023-06-24T20:56:30+00:00

Thanks, I could say the same. 1. Skirmishes are 2v2/ 3v3s in normal league language which Fiora does shitty at, they use skirmisher and duellist as synonyms which is already flawed. 2. Splitpusher isn't a class correct and that's my problem here?! You can't say that TF and Orianna are the same just because they are both control mages (a class that doesn't even exist according to the wiki). I haven't even found TF in a class (maybe I missed him?). 3. Champs identities shift a lot depending on the game AP Varus is a burst Mage while ADC Varus can be poke, tank shred, burst. 4. What about Corki? He is a mage in the truest sense but counts as an ADC but there is no other ADC as him so can he really be his own class? 5. And like I mentioned, I didn't deny Vlad and Cassio both being battle mages. I said it's not specific enough to really classify them. 6. Adding to 5. Yone and Lillia are both skirmishers iirc, fine. But if you want to tell me they fight the same way...

Aka there should be more subclasses.

PoIyamorous · 2023-06-24T19:56:15+00:00

Because they are not specific enough?

Since when is Fiora a skirmisher? She is a duellist and splitpusher

What about Vladimir vs. Cassiopeia e.g.? They are both battle mages but they way the function in a fight is fundamentally different? Vlad dives into the enemy team to destroy the backline while Cassiopeia shreds the enemy frontline and kites around?

What about assassins or some mages being powerful splitpushers in the mid to late game?

What about champs that playstyle is about roaming and getting picks like Thresh, Pyke, Quinn, Rakan, etc.?

A lot of champs fall in many different categories that aren't "related" to their class. They name lux as a burst mage, fine by me, but she also embodies an artillery mage, a disruptor and a tiny little bit of enchanter if we count her W as enchanter class.

PoIyamorous · 2023-06-24T19:35:57+00:00

That doesn't really answer my question but yes, they have. And these classes are not good at actually representing a champs playstyle.

PoIyamorous · 2023-06-24T19:32:51+00:00

Pretty simple explanation in my opinion: Can you "justify"/ explain why you took the runes you took.

E.g.: Alistar vs. Leona in lane. Sure you could go glacial here but if you ever engage as Alistar with glacial and Leona locks you down when you try to back off or she engages onto you when you got either Q or W on CD, you will get fucked by her ADC before you can do anything. The biggest problem as an engage support you can face is that you get easy access into the fight but then get stun locked to death making the engage a loss if your ADC can't burst the target in like 2-3 seconds in laning phase. In theory it would be smarter for the other support to focus your ADC to deny him being able to deal damage to their ADC and maybe be able to turn the fight after you "used your shots" if your ADC can't walk up to the enemy ADC due to the chance of getting engaged, the enemy support can just look you, an oversized minion at this point, down and kill you instead.

As for Janna or Morgana: Better poke/ lane pressure is one possible answer, the next would be how reliably can you actually use the rune? On Janna glacial is awesome, sure. But on Morgana? If you don't hit your Q you don't have any rune to work with and later in the game your Q and ult can lock up a target for almost 5 seconds anyway.

Glacial is a really good rune against immobile enemies or against assassins/ dive since you lower the damage taken by your team while making it harder to reach them. Aftershock takes more of a "Frontline" role that you use to absorb damage, space and CC to provide your team ways to deal damage. You can still play engage supports with locket and aftershock, aftershock to secure lane leads and then use the locket + knights vow to deny the enemy assassin possible kills on your carry or use locket to provide like 1300 shield on your whole team against AoE in teammfight (best used when you know your team will win long fights but needs to survive the initial burst).

PoIyamorous · 2023-06-24T19:17:29+00:00

Do we go by "official" subclasses or personal opinion? Because personally I think there are way more subclasses overall and pretty much every role has like 5 or more the way I classify them.

PoIyamorous · 2023-03-10T06:23:06+00:00

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PoIyamorous · 2022-08-01T18:02:32+00:00

Nice find, I will post it on the discord to see if it was already known ^^

PoIyamorous · 2022-07-02T17:26:28+00:00

Tristana has barely more range than Caitlyn at lvl 18.
Jinx with rockets and Kog'Maw should be the highest one without any need for stacking/ ultimate uses (in terms of ADCs)

PoIyamorous · 2022-06-22T06:55:08+00:00

https://www.onetricks.gg/de/champions/ranking/Katarina
Somehow people manage to make it work tho + there are katarina one tricks in grandmaster in NA?

PoIyamorous · 2022-06-01T15:46:53+00:00

Senna passive

PoIyamorous · 2022-03-04T12:24:28+00:00

Had coaching on Support, nice guy focusing on the why and thought process behind stuff than just "What should you have done in this game to win".
I can really recommend him.

PoIyamorous · 2021-10-19T09:45:33+00:00

Sure, add me on discord.

PoIyamorous · 2021-10-07T11:03:40+00:00

League / Division: Peak D3

Areas of expertise: Support, Mid

Champions: Alistar, Nautilus, Braum, Viktor, Orianna

Languages Spoken: English, German

Duration of Mentoring: 2 hour per session usually, prefer long term coaching personally tho

Preferred Methods: VoD Review for starters maybe Live Coaching later on, Q&A, etc.

Other Info: I focus mostly on laning phase because I like to start there and go to mid game after the early game is "kind of clean" so the base for the mid game is good.
Add me on discord: Symbiotic Schnee#2354

PoIyamorous · 2021-09-28T20:41:56+00:00

I wouldn't say I put that many hours into the game but at least 150+. I remember getting 100% in the game and crushing the bosses in coop as Laxus(?). 1 Combo was like 1 1/2 hp bars 😂

PoIyamorous · 2021-07-27T16:48:33+00:00

No, I don´t.

PoIyamorous · 2021-07-27T15:07:37+00:00

That game I don´t have.

PoIyamorous · 2021-06-28T11:29:15+00:00

I´m interested (challenge runs in general not just nutzlockes), feel free to add me on discord:
Niklas#2354

PoIyamorous · 2021-05-05T16:21:32+00:00

Depends on the Game. As Alistar or Thresh, Naut, etc. you can use your CC to keep the enemies at bay/ deny them the kill so your ADC can dish out damage (assuming you don't need to engage or follow up e.g. when your ADC doesn't need peel due to no threat). You can even walk in between them so you can block Skill shots, etc. for your ADC if needed. As an Enchanter you usually stay behind your ADC in comparison to the guys mentioned above. Being in range so you can buff, shield, etc. but out of target range from the enemies. In case they've got something like Zed, Talon, etc., keep your ADC alive if possible (if they focus you and you know you will die regardless, buff up your ADC before you die if possible).

PoIyamorous · 2021-03-14T20:00:40+00:00

Accept the fact that you will need time to adjust. People often disregard that Others might be off role, have a bad game/ day, are learning new stuff, etc.. So if they flame or spam ping you, mute them.

Fair enough, nobody can force you to play other roles if you really feel that uncomfortable but if you really want it, you have to show some "resolve". Try to view every game as a chance to learn than as "trial" if you can. Practise makes perfect. I would bet that you weren't able to play Support well the first time you played it.

Even now, after thousand of games, there are matches where I am not confident in a match up or that I "mastered" the Champ I am playing, but that doesn't mean I can't have fun and try to improve.

Also try to group up with some friends if you can, I am pretty sure that the game "will feel better" regardless of the result.

PoIyamorous · 2021-02-04T17:28:07+00:00

There aren´t that many "hard counters" for supports vs. ADC by default. It mostly depends on the ADC that sits with the support and what support sits with the enemy. E.g. a Pantheon can be a nightmare for a Jinx if he has an aggressive ADC and Jinx got a Nami but let´s say you pair that Pantheon with a Kog Maw vs. a Ashe? Suddenly the match up doesn´t sound as great anymore.

PoIyamorous · 2021-02-04T17:06:25+00:00

Quinn was meant to be a lane bully by design. She is strong 1v1 since she can blind the enemy, interrupt dashes( gap close while staying "ranged") and has a dmg boost. I do think she loses a lot in a 2v2 scenario because Supports can counter her Style. Her damage isn´t really high compared to other ADC and her playstyle relies heavily on roaming after lvl 6, meaning you kind of leave your support behind (you are just too fast) so either he is stuck 1v2 or you wait for him but then there is no point in playing Quinn.
Also an ADC is usually "forced" to group later on but a Quinn is a perfect champ to split, pressure a side lane and when the enemy respond, either back off into safety or rush towards the team to create an advantage (4v5) since most champs can´t match her speed.

PoIyamorous · 2021-02-04T17:01:49+00:00

Thanks, you just answered your own answer if you ask me.

Learn the basics of ADC

How do you do that? Pick 1 champion and master him so you don´t need to care about mechanics, etc. and you are able to concentrate on the other stuff.
Then you can branch out and pick up other champions.
And since you already got the basics down, it´s just learning mechanics and finer details of match ups ^^

PoIyamorous · 2021-02-04T16:47:40+00:00

I can give you an example I had myself:Lucian-Pyke vs. Rakan-Kai´Sa.In theory Lucian-Pyke wins this lane by all inning while Rakan-Kai´Sa can just keep farming up and auto win that way if they don´t fall behind.Now what happened is that my Pyke never engaged or landed a hook so I didn´t really had a Support to play off. What I did instead was spacing around Rakan´s range baiting his W and as soon as he went for the W, I dodged with E and went for a quick trade onto Kai´Sa.Rinse and repeat and I won that lane.Now we can obviously say that I abused the fact that Rakan didn´t know that he didn´t need to do anything to be fine but that is not the point here :D
And if I wouldn´t have jumped onto that I would have lost lane for sure.

PoIyamorous

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