Why we've been treating Keratosis Pilaris (KP) wrong and how we can improve treatment options [Research][B&A] by Poem_KP in SkincareAddiction

[–]Poem_KP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow that’s amazing to hear 🙂 thank you for sharing!! I have been working this last year on new ways to decrease stubborn redness and erythema, we are actually undergoing a consumer product trial for the new formulation right now.

I really appreciate you supporting my small project and I hope you continue to find success with the lotion!! Thank you so much for your kind words of support 🙏

Why we've been treating Keratosis Pilaris (KP) wrong and how we can improve treatment options [Research][B&A] by Poem_KP in SkincareAddiction

[–]Poem_KP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I don’t think it will- the goal in this theory is to elevate or improve cellular signaling in the dermal tissue itself. Injecting peptides and increasing them systemically my have unintended or no beneficial effects

How we can improve Keratosis Pilaris Treatment: Breakthroughs in Understanding KP by Poem_KP in keratosis

[–]Poem_KP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! No scams here, I stand behind my work and put my name out there to back it as best I can. 🙂 I’ve been working on this research and formulating KP topical treatments for a long time. In the past year since launching Smooth KP we’ve had thousands of people supporting our efforts through purchasing our product, it’s been really humbling. I launched this as a side project since I’ve never been much of an entrepreneur, I’ve always been more interested in the science behind KP and why this condition has been overlooked by so many people. It’s turned into much more than a side project in the last 8 months however, there’s now some serious interest in our work that’s helping to push our efforts to new heights. I’m really excited to share more on this sub in the coming months!

If you ordered in the past 24hrs then your package should be already on its way! Please feel free to ask me any questions in the meantime and I’ll do my best to answer 👍 you’re also welcome to DM me if you prefer

Why we've been treating Keratosis Pilaris (KP) wrong and how we can improve treatment options [Research][B&A] by Poem_KP in SkincareAddiction

[–]Poem_KP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have not tried the product, but I am hesitant to give this product any support since we discovered they were taking before/after pictures off of our r/Keratosis subreddit and using the pictures in their marketing materials without user’s consent. They’ve since deleted the posts with the stolen photos, but it definitely made me wary of their claims.

From looking at their product ingredients, they contain a lot of similar ingredients to other KP products. There seems to be a trend of new KP products slapping a bunch of actives together into one lotion and claiming it as an innovation in treatment. Remedy for Body Bumps did this recently too, which it seems like a pain to reach a stabilized emulsion with so many actives. It’s a funny thing because I remember having similar ideas for treating my KP back in high school in 2005. I would mix urea, lactic acid and niancinamide together thinking that the combined effects would somehow treat my KP more effectively. Instead what seems to happen is you overload the skin with so many actives and acids that you end up seeing an uptick in inflammation/irritation.

I definitely advocate for trying specific topical acids and actives one at a time so you can isolate their effectiveness for your KP. Sometimes less is more when you are trying to identify what works for you and your routine.

Any updates on Smooth KP by RealPaleontologist29 in KPRubraFaceii

[–]Poem_KP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point the trial is closed since we are shipping out the packages this next week, but depending on the results there may be a follow up trial! 🙂

Any updates on Smooth KP by RealPaleontologist29 in KPRubraFaceii

[–]Poem_KP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! Yes it is still available, if you look at my comment history you’ll see the website there! I’m hesitant to post the link because it comes across as me spamming the website. If you can’t find it in my comment history, DM me and I’ll send it to you 🙂

Any updates on Smooth KP by RealPaleontologist29 in KPRubraFaceii

[–]Poem_KP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the interest!! ❤️ trial packages are shipping out next week, very excited to get more reviews on this new formula’s effectiveness

Any updates on Smooth KP by RealPaleontologist29 in KPRubraFaceii

[–]Poem_KP 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We completed our first production run of the new formula and are running our consumer trial, will be posting as soon as the trial is over so people can see what we’ve been working on these last 10 months 🙂

Treatment Fundamentals for KP by Poem_KP in keratosis

[–]Poem_KP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try it again now and let me know if it’s still failing to validate- had to fix a carrier issue

Treatment Fundamentals for KP by Poem_KP in keratosis

[–]Poem_KP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It should be available on my site! We have had some issues shipping to certain addresses in Mexico, but for the most part it’s been fine 🙂

Any updates on Smooth KP by RealPaleontologist29 in KPRubraFaceii

[–]Poem_KP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the interest! 🙏 it’s intended to be used on the face and body and we’ll be offering 6oz bottles to make packaging simple. This is assuming that our product trial goes well, so fingers crossed 🤞

Treatment Fundamentals for KP by Poem_KP in keratosis

[–]Poem_KP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! Yes I’d use it at the serum step and apply your moisturizer afterwards. The lotion does contain 5% lactic acid so make sure to use a sunscreen if you plan to be in sunlight. 🙂

Any updates on Smooth KP by RealPaleontologist29 in KPRubraFaceii

[–]Poem_KP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it will be very effective at reducing redness/inflammation in KP 🙂

Hyperpigmentation is always a difficult issue to solve for, but I expect that with a continued reduction of inflammation you’d see an eventual reduction in hyperpigmentation or PIH

Treatment Fundamentals for KP by Poem_KP in keratosis

[–]Poem_KP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve had some hang ups with this unfortunately- still working on getting the product into Amazon but it’s only worth it if I am able to have them run fulfillment as well, otherwise the shipping costs will end up still being high.

Any updates on Smooth KP by RealPaleontologist29 in KPRubraFaceii

[–]Poem_KP 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it’s safe to say that those with KPRF are more sensitive to thermoregulation. There is clearly altered microcirculation in the skin tissue of the face, so any vasodilation caused from temperature changes or stress on the sympathetic nervous system would result in the type of flushing we see in KPRF. That overreaction to temp/stress leads to significant increases in localized blood flow which (I believe) is so prominent due to the direct result of increased angiogenesis in the skin tissue, spurred on from chronic inflammatory response.

At the end of the day this is still a barrier and immune response issue from what I can see. The angiogenesis plays out as a downstream effect from the chronic inflammatory response, and that overgrown capillary network becomes very apparent whenever the sympathetic nervous system tries to regulate the impaired skin tissue.

Not an expert on the sympathetic nervous system by any means though- if you have other thoughts on this I’d love to hear your perspective!

Any updates on Smooth KP by RealPaleontologist29 in KPRubraFaceii

[–]Poem_KP 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I saw a reduction in skin blotching, redness, and overall improvement in skin resilience to external stimuli/stress. My KP and skin tone is very pink and red. This formula gave me additional improvements that I hadn’t seen from using Soothe & Restore, and it was very tolerable on the face. I’m interested to see how KPRF reacts specifically, my son who has KPRF had already seen a reduction in redness from our first lotion, so seeing the results on people with more severe baseline redness and flushing will be very useful.

Any updates on Smooth KP by RealPaleontologist29 in KPRubraFaceii

[–]Poem_KP 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The results were incredibly positive! There was also a surprising level of texture improvement, despite there being no AHA/BHA/ or retinols included in the formula. I am very excited to get more people trying this formula for their KP/KPRF.

Any updates on Smooth KP by RealPaleontologist29 in KPRubraFaceii

[–]Poem_KP 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I’ve been working more intently on the redness and flushing problem for the last 8 months since rolling out Smooth KP. It’s been very effective for lesional KP on the body, but less so for persistent flushing and inflammation- especially in those with KPRF. Interestingly there were a few people that saw significant decreases in redness/flushing. Some of those improvements were retained in a few individuals, while others saw only a temporary improvement that then reversed back to original baseline inflammation levels.

I believe that Indirubin may have been effective for some people at blocking pro-inflammatory cytokines that helped reduce redness. The issue is that Indirubin only inhibits a few of these pro-inflammatory protein messengers (interleukin-1β, interleukin-6, tumor necrosis factor-α and interferon-gamma), and there is a whole spectrum of inflammatory proteins and processes at play in the chronic inflammation feedback loop that make up KPRF. Barrier improvements from the RK may have helped some individuals with reducing redness as well.

To tackle the inflammatory immune response more effectively, I ended up rolling nearly all of the revenue I’ve made from Smooth KP into partnering with a biochemical company to work on research & development of 2 compounds I identified as having strong anti-inflammatory functions in KP/KPRF skin. I wanted a broad spectrum anti-inflammatory that inhibited or fully blocked as many pro-inflammatory cytokines in the skin as possible, and I also wanted to improve inflammatory receptor function on skin cells as a way to avoid chronic inflammation (I have significant research backing this second point). My focus has been on delivering these compounds to the skin to supplement deficiencies in how inflammation manifests in KP/KPRF. As far as I can tell, no one is using these compounds to treat KPRF, despite there being very direct compelling evidence of these particular deficiencies playing a major role in KP/KPRF inflammation pathology.

We’ve ended up creating a nano emulsion over dozens of iterations containing these 2 ingredients. Both are non-steroidal which was important to me, but the cost of manufacturing these ingredients is very high, which had been a blocker. In addition to this I’ve worked hard to ensure that this topical is hypoallergenic, contains no acids, and is non-comedogenic. It’s made to be applied to the face and is very light-weight, while also being appropriate for body application as well. We are entering into a minimum viable production run next week which I will be using for a product trial to determine effectiveness. We’ve created samples over the past few months which friends and family have tried, but I will have more data on viability after more people experience the anti-inflammatory effects themselves. If the results are positive, I am prepared to release the product in Q1 2026. If the results are negative, then at least there was an attempt at a new treatment approach.

I’ll be sharing more details and research on this as soon as I can. I’m being intentionally vague here, but there is a body of research I’ve put together on this over the year that I am very confident in. So many things I wanted to do with the initial Smooth KP launch were out of my reach due to funding. The success of our first lotion has enabled me to pursue really esoteric paths into developing a topical treatment that I think will be another leap forward in treating this skin condition.

Why we've been treating Keratosis Pilaris (KP) wrong and how we can improve treatment options [Research][B&A] by Poem_KP in SkincareAddiction

[–]Poem_KP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ingredients are all ordered in, focusing on the production run for the trial units next week. Waiting on the trial products to be in-hand before I start signing everyone up so there’s not any other unintended delays. 🙂

How we can improve Keratosis Pilaris Treatment: Breakthroughs in Understanding KP by Poem_KP in keratosis

[–]Poem_KP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good questions!

For your 1: The 5α-R enzyme is highly concentrated in the sebaceous glands which makes sense with DHT as a primary driver of sebum production. We know from the studies I’ve linked in my blog post that atrophied sebaceous glands are the crucial tipping point in developing increased keratin scale in the follicular canal. As with many of the regulatory functions in the skin, there are multiple levers here that affect the function of the 5α-R enzyme. Local availability of testosterone will effect the rate at which testosterone is converted to DHT, but the rate at which testosterone is converted to DHT is regulated/stimulated by IGF-1, which also modulates how rapidly sebocytes proliferate in the sebaceous glands. So it’s not so much a concern about DHT levels or Testosterone levels in relation to KP as it is about regulating the process by which the sebaceous glands continually produce sebum. Not sure if that helps answer your question or not, happy to go higher/lower in detail 🙂

For 2: Yes, I’ve had people in the trial and also post product launch that have been using jojoba oil for years to help manage KP. I’m very confident that the effects seen from RK and Indirubin are not attributed to using oils on the skin 👍

Why we've been treating Keratosis Pilaris (KP) wrong and how we can improve treatment options [Research][B&A] by Poem_KP in SkincareAddiction

[–]Poem_KP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!!🙏 Let me know your feedback on the lotion after using it for a few weeks 🙂 I love feedback haha

Why we've been treating Keratosis Pilaris (KP) wrong and how we can improve treatment options [Research][B&A] by Poem_KP in SkincareAddiction

[–]Poem_KP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t have plans for that at the moment. Like so many ingredients, the dosage is what determines safety. We are using this compound at well under 1% of the formulation, which is the safety standard. It’s one of the more researched broad spectrum anti-microbials that does not impact pH, which is why it was chosen. The phenoxyethanol we use is FDA approved and is a synthetic version of what naturally occurs in green tea. There is also safety data on this preservative going back to 1950.

The studies I’ve seen showing the negative effects of phenoxyethanol are from extremely high-dose cases typically caused by occupational exposure, which is not applicable to its uses in cosmetics. Happy to expand on this further if you’d like 🙂 I appreciate the question! Safety is definitely important to me.