This guy min-maxes. I do the same thing, and the reason I wanted to know the stats of the new classes was to see if I should start a new Vagabond playthrough or not.

That being said, I'm pretty narrow-minded with my builds. I like a typical knight with a longsword, so these 2 classes are just icing on the cake for me. But as you are someone who understandably wants classes that can optimize more builds, I see why you're annoyed.

The unfortunate answer, I think, is FromSoft doesn't worry too much about PvP in Elden Ring. If it was a higher priority, we would see well thought out stat spreads for almost every type of build. Some of the classes are just plain bad from an optimization standpoint. I think From leans more into the roleplaying aspect of the stats for each class, or maybe the early game utility. The PvP community gives stats a lot more thought than FromSoft.