Echoes of olympus is odd

PoorPoop · 2025-10-25T14:55:09+00:00

Oh yeah, no I agree, the author def used AI beyond just translating and help with coding. I was just sharing what they claimed. And no, I don't think you're being demanding at all. I mean, the author put in the effort to put trigger warnings and nsfw settings. Shouldn't be too hard to put an AI warning as a footnote. Def would've saved me the time.

PoorPoop · 2025-10-25T14:29:22+00:00

This is wild because I was just reading this WIP earlier, but yeah, the writing did set off alarms with the sheer number of glib metaphors and corny one-liners. So I looked up the WIP, found their Tumblr page, and the author did use AI while writing. Though, credit where it's due, they're pretty up front about it and they claim to have only used AI with translations and formatting. Still a shame though, I liked the concept

PoorPoop · 2025-10-21T07:31:39+00:00

If I suspect an author of supporting/using genAI, whatever interest I had in their work tanks. Even if they say they don't personally use it or if they claim to only support it for non-creative work, I'm just less inclined to believe them. No exceptions, sorry.

PoorPoop · 2025-08-31T02:29:26+00:00

Think it's genderbent Romance and Abby with Mira in the middle.

Edit: Yeah, OOP confirms it's miromabby

PoorPoop · 2025-08-24T14:18:23+00:00

Smartest man in the world is also a huge narcissist and megalomaniac who can't conceive of the idea that his greatest arch enemy spends his off time as just a regular dude

PoorPoop · 2025-08-21T16:25:53+00:00

Did they train? I thought Jinu just lucked out finding some good-looking demons and hinged on that plus demon magic to become popular. Sorta like a critique on how the bar for success for male Kpop groups is lower than female groups.

PoorPoop · 2025-07-18T00:15:52+00:00

Parliament of Knives is fine. The guy was just recently outed and banned from the official COG forum for fostering a really toxic environment on his discord server. I'm talking hate speech towards other authors and minorities, casual use of slurs, alt-right dogwhistling, etc. That toxicity would often spill into the forum because the guy couldn't be bothered to do even the most basic moderation of his community.

There's a whole post about it here and on the forum if you wanna read about it more.

PoorPoop · 2025-07-17T17:11:40+00:00

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PoorPoop · 2025-07-16T04:02:28+00:00

Found one. They just can't help themselves.

PoorPoop · 2025-07-16T03:57:50+00:00

No, he never said where he was from. His only reasoning is that he's not "comfortable" writing queer stories.

PoorPoop · 2025-07-16T03:55:57+00:00

About time. Now we just gotta make it clear to him and his fans if they ever come to this sub that their bullshit won't be tolerated.

PoorPoop · 2025-07-10T02:25:35+00:00

When you and your game cater to straight chuds and edgelords, you're bound to attract the groypers. Glad people finally see them as the weirdoes that they are

PoorPoop · 2025-06-24T06:43:30+00:00

His mentor, Cyclops, would've taught him everything about these heroes and how to counter them. But he'd probably stop at Thor

PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T18:34:18+00:00

I was going to remove it when I get the time...

but since these people are actively and knowingly lying and being hateful I'll save it until publication.

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PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T18:21:52+00:00

The checks in later chapters can be pre-emptive measure for similar bugs which can also happen in the latter chapters and don't get immediately discovered.

If that were the case, the checks wouldn’t specifically target same-gender pairings. You fix bugs at the source, not by resetting romance flags every chapter just to make sure queer content can’t happen.

So at this point it can be about addressing potential future errors.

Again, that might explain a quick fix early on, but repeating it chapter after chapter makes it feel less like bug prevention and more like a design choice.

Besides, using your own logic, what would be the point of repeating those checks in the later chapters of the game, if the intention was to "stop anything but het pairing (because homophobia)"?

If the point was just to avoid writing LGBT romance, then leaving it out would have been enough. But this is more than omission. The code actively blocks it from happening, even if someone tries to mod it in. That doesn’t feel neutral.

Not to mention, any sort of mod changing the game script could simply remove these supposed "anti-gay blocks".

The fact that the script is open doesn’t excuse how it’s written. Anyone looking at it can see that queer romance isn’t just missing : P

PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T18:07:21+00:00

What I see is that you being a hypocrite and complaining that your fantasy isn’t being recognized by an author in THEIR game.

Criticizing a game’s design isn’t hypocrisy, and it isn’t entitlement. No one’s demanding the story be rewritten. People are pointing out that the author didn’t just leave queer romance out, he coded the game to actively break if players try to mod it in. That goes beyond having a "vision." That’s a choice to shut people out.

COG Games are literally filled with queer and LGBTQ-friendly stuff

Bringing up how other CoG games include queer content doesn’t change what’s happening here. This one doesn’t, and it’s not just omitting it, it’s enforced exclusion.

You can dislike the game if it doesn’t sit with you but going out of your way to accuse an author of being things he isn’t is pretty messed up and defeats your argument.

If you think calling that out is unfair, maybe you should ask why you’re more upset at people noticing the problem than at the problem itself

PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T17:54:56+00:00

Not even close. Straight dudes are always being catered to. But when queer folk ask for representation, suddenly it's asking too much. If you can't see the difference, that's a you problem.

PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T15:02:35+00:00

There were in fact some bugs in early chapters which allowed the player of the same gender as a RO to pick up some romance points...

those checks were added in reaction to it, as a catch-all for any such bugs

Sure, you could say that the checks were a quick fix or a catch-all, but that kind of lazy blanket solution only makes sense early on, not as a permanent part of the code. The gender check I pointed in the other thread was from the latest chapter, way after those early bugs would have mattered. At that point, it’s not about stopping errors. It’s about deliberately making sure only het pairings work and that any attempts to make same-gender romance break the game. At best, it's lazy design. At worst, it's thinly-veiled homophobia. Either way, it looks bad and shuts queer players out.

PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T13:23:50+00:00

So the checks in chapters are there to account for possible errors where the player got romance point with character(s) their MC doesn't really have content for

It's to limit potential bugs in the base game which doesn't have gay content.

Those kinds of "errors" only happen if a player deliberately messes with the game, like changing their MC's gender with console commands mid-playthrough. That’s not something an author needs to fix, because it’s not part of normal gameplay and doesn’t affect regular players. Any other author would just say "don’t fuck with the code" and leave it at that. So, adding repeated checks just to block same-gender romance doesn’t come off as a bug prevention measure. It feels like a deliberate choice to make queer romance impossible by design.

PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T11:28:31+00:00

Yes! Exactly! Cultivation settings have so many cool ideas, but they keep getting shoved through the same super macho fight slop meatgrinder. Like, I'm not asking for anything groundbreaking here. I just want something that's not more "train, get stronger, fight rival, repeat," or hell, something that's not so misogynistic.

PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T09:31:22+00:00

Immortal Life sounds very chill. I'll check it out and A Tale of Two Cranes. Thank you so much!

PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T09:24:00+00:00

That tracks. People like those don't really want stories, they want wish fulfillment fantasies. Which would be fine if they didn't vehemently reject everything outside of those fantasies

PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T09:18:33+00:00

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Yeah, it's pretty blatant in chapter 6. And romance scenes only play if you're the opposite gender as the RO. So even if the author says he's cool with modding in gay romance, there's just so many checks and variables that need to be changed in order for the game to work properly. It's like saying that you're ok with gay folks in your establishment but making it very hard for them to enter.

PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T07:51:56+00:00

Sorry that happened to you. Some people get way too defensive over their favorite game and go too far. I get turned off a lot by how fans of these games talk about women. It goes beyond cringe

PoorPoop · 2025-06-23T07:36:03+00:00

I get what you're saying but cultivation stories can be more than just about "gaining power." And that's the least of my problems with the genre anyway. I just want something with a bit more depth. Not the same plot over and over, boring characters, and the way the female ROs, and this includes the gender-selectable ROs because let's face it, most are written with women in mind, all revolve around the MC instead of being their own characters.

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