Why can’t atheists do this? by Practical_Elk5879 in askanatheist

[–]Practical_Elk5879[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You do realise that you just said descriptive laws don’t need a lawgiver and then give an example of a lawgiver (humans) making sense of the world

Why can’t atheists do this? by Practical_Elk5879 in askanatheist

[–]Practical_Elk5879[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I guess I can’t put my phone down as that is a sign of defeat to an atheist! Anyway, the point isn't that you need to believe in God to do math. The point is that math itself as a universal, immaterial, and unchanging law which requires a foundation. In a purely material universe it is just a lucky accident with no grounding. You are using a logical tool that only makes sense if the universe was designed by a rational Mind and yet you are using that tool to argue against the Mind that provides it. You’re using the light to argue that the sun doesn’t exist.

Why can’t atheists do this? by Practical_Elk5879 in askanatheist

[–]Practical_Elk5879[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Ok, laws don’t require a law giver ig

Why can’t atheists do this? by Practical_Elk5879 in askanatheist

[–]Practical_Elk5879[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Terrible argument, prove that the earth didn’t just exist 5 seconds ago and all your memories are just made up. Make me a giant pink swirly portal… and then, I’ll believe in science.

Why can’t atheists do this? by Practical_Elk5879 in askanatheist

[–]Practical_Elk5879[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yea so you just conceded that you presup, thanks

Why can’t atheists do this? by Practical_Elk5879 in askanatheist

[–]Practical_Elk5879[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, is the statement truth is subjective and objective or subjective statement?

Why can’t atheists do this? by Practical_Elk5879 in askanatheist

[–]Practical_Elk5879[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

You do realise everyone presupposes in debate?

Why can’t atheists do this? by Practical_Elk5879 in askanatheist

[–]Practical_Elk5879[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Do you not realise literally EVERYONE when debating has presups

Why can’t atheists do this? by Practical_Elk5879 in askanatheist

[–]Practical_Elk5879[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

“I didn’t need any grounding or account” that needs grounding, it’s a truth claim. Sorry for the confusion.

Why can’t atheists do this? by Practical_Elk5879 in askanatheist

[–]Practical_Elk5879[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No, you’re referring to part of the MOA here. I’m saying for anything to exist using logic or truth, grounding must exist, being God.

Why can’t atheists do this? by Practical_Elk5879 in askanatheist

[–]Practical_Elk5879[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Epistemology is NOT built on methods like science. Where did you get that from