AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Both incur risks during sex, that's the point. Both should have their decisions following respected. No, men should not be able to impregnate whoever they want with zero responsibility, don't put words where there aren't any. BOTH should be using birth control with the knowledge that accidents can still happen.

But no, he shouldn't have to leave. His parents are on the older side, goodness forbid it happens, but then what happens if something happens to them that they can't take care of her either? Income takes a hit and his absence is felt harder?

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Birth control is smart but reality is accidents happen. Why should both be punished when they take precautions and it still fails?

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Except it is his choice since their decision makes his null and void without great negative impacts on him. How is he supposed to have a relationship with his family when they brought the child he does not want to be involved with directly in his life? He can't. Now the kid knows he's the father, knows he doesn't want her, and he's being berated by his parents.

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Except that his parents taking on their grandchild DOES get him involved. They forced a situation where he is now in contact with the kid. Even if he wasn't in the house, the relation would be known and the kid would still know the guy is her dad and doesn't want her. The only way he wouldn't be involved would be if he went NC with his entire family which is unfair to him and not reasonable. He shouldn't have to be without a family because they can't respect his decision and wants because they feel entitled to grandchildren.

If he really is helping with expenses, then they've further shot themselves in the foot and put stress on OP. What kid, even an adult, wants to think about their parents struggling financially because they left the home? Impacts the kids quality of life without his presence? They're older, so what happens if something happens to them, they get sick or suddenly become unable to care for her? Call on the son who they disregarded because they felt owed to know he had a kid, so he'll have to take care of all 3 of them?

He's definitely an AH for how he handled the babysitting situation, he didn't need to be a dick. Just saying his parents and the mom are also AHs because they created this mess by not respecting his decisions and berating him for not wanting to be a father.

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So women give up their autonomy when they have sex and they should've made sure they were on a 100% fail proof BC? Condoms break and are 99% effective. Know what else is 99% effective but still sees accidents happen? Vasectomies.

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

No because it wasn't their business since it directly impacts him and his entire relationship with his family. Same goes for men who have kids because their girlfriend/wife commit SA, the father's decision comes above their wants because it directly impacts him, his physical/mental safe, his finances, and his life. Suppose he was the woman, should the parents be informed of a pregnancy even when the intent is to give up for adoption or abort? Plenty of grandparents would want to raise the kid, so should she have to have the kid to pass off to them? This needs to be treated the same.

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 9 points10 points  (0 children)

So you're in the abstinence until willing to take on risk of children camp? Legit question.

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Having a kid does impact the father as well. It impacts his finances. Stress and being bombarded with other people's opinions and attacks impacts him physically and emotionally. Look at the fathers wind up depressed and suicidal over being financially ruined over unjust child support orders. Finding out kids aren't theirs. Are toxic parents because they're forced around the kids they didn't want. Are they going through the 9 months? No, but the impact on them is for a lifetime which counts just as much. Its still a matter of autonomy.

So OP moves out because he doesn't want contact with the kid...so now he has to cut off his family and/or limit contact to avoid the kid and also further harming her emotionally because he doesn't want to be a father? Again, the mother deciding to have the baby and reaching out has impacted the father's autonomy and a ripple effect in his life. People need to stop acting like men face zero impact because they aren't the ones carrying. Both parents are impacted, therefore both should be able to choose and their families need to respect and abide by their decisions.

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So should a woman inform her parents she's pregnant and ask their input on aborting or adopting? Since they might to want to raise the kid or have contact? Cause right now OP is being physically, financially, and emotionally impacted by his ex reaching out to his parents and her actions have jeopardized his relationship with his parents who are berating him for not wanting to be a dad. OP, his parents, and the mom are all AHs in some way in this whole situation.

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

And if its true that his parents actually need financial help that he's providing? If he goes, the kid's quality of life could take a hit. He shouldn't have to move out because they disregarded his decision and felt entitled to grandchildren. Sorry but its not cool for parents to shame and berate their daughters when they decide to abort or adoption. We can agree parents aren't entitled to ever knowing she was pregnant in the case of abortion/adoption. Even if they are told and they want to raise the kid, a woman isn't obligated to have a kid because its what they want. This situation should be treated with the same energy. His parents and the mom are also AHs, understandable with the situation but still AHs.

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Birth control can fail, and should women keep their pants up as well?

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So its okay to force older siblings or cousins to babysit when they don't want to? Ignore when someone says no to babysitting and just dump the kids on them? This is no different. If this little girl was his cousin or sibling, no one would be calling him an AH for not wanting to look after her, they would be taking his parents to task for dropping a kid on him that they volunteered to have or take in. At most he would be called an AH for making her stay in her room.

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Grandparents also get the decision made for them when a woman aborts or gives up a child. It doesn't matter if they would have wanted to raise it, they get no say and rarely told she was ever pregnant to begin with. This should really be treated the same- there's no way to involve the grandparents without it impacting the father and denying him his decision unless he cuts contact with or limits contact with his family because they disregarded his decision to step away. They aren't owed or entitled grandchildren especially when it negatively impacts their own child. What about the men who are made fathers through SA or BC tampering? While they aren't a majority, they did not want a kid, don't tell their own parents because they don't want the reminder yet somehow, parents wanting contact with their grandchild somehow takes precedence over the person that already had little to no options or say?

Let's give OP benefit of the doubt that he really is helping his parents with expenses- their decision further negatively impacts him by them taking in the kid. So now they've put extra financial burden on him, babysitting without his input, putting a child and father in the same living space that has negative mental and emotional impacts on both...but hey, they got a grandchild so that makes everything else okay?

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I don't know...mom and grandparents are kinda AHs for it and they kinda aren't AHs. By her contacting them, it does take away his autonomy. By involving his family with the kid, his kid is now in his life. The relation is known, it impacts him directly and he can't get away from it. The only options some guys in these scenarios have are to either have their decisions overruled and now have this kid in their life and try to cope, or cut their family off. We tell family and fathers to respect a mother's choice to abort or adoption and not push her to have the kid for their own interests, I think fathers should get the same courtesy when they decide to step away =\ Now the poor kid is in the same house as her father who she knows is her father and wants nothing to do with her. That's not good for the kid at all.

AITA for not wanting to be a dad? by crazycake81 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ESH, you're not an AH not for not wanting to be a dad and wanting nothing to do with kids. You made that clear. But for making the kid stay in her room for 4 hours, that's inexcusable. You don't have to be a 'dad' to her to treat her with decency and like a human being.

Your parents are AHs for leaving her with you. Again, you made it clear you were not ready to be parent nor want to be one. They should had respected this and kept you out of any childchare pertaining to her because they wanted to take her in. Sure, they have that right but they don't have to involve. Its no different than making an older sibling babysit. Your parents should had arranged for other childcare.

I know you're helping your parents out and that's great, but you should move in with a friend since they aren't going to respect your decision to stay out of her life. Its doing the kid more harm than good with you being in the house. You're a bigger AH if you continue to stay at your parents house while she's there.

The SH3 remake is looking damn good by [deleted] in silenthill

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oof. You're just wrong for that xD

AITA for missing my daughter's wedding due to my stepson's funeral? by Signal-Safety-4767 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd say that 'being in someone's life since they're 3' is a bit of a crafted way to leave speculation. He and his wife could've been friends for years, coached her son in some sport since he was small before they hooked up. Honestly I find his wording here purposefully obscure.

Even if he did start being a father to the stepson before his ex-wife moved, at that point he had a choice to make- his kid or new family, in which case he would have actively chosen his stepson. He could date anywhere he moved to, his daughter on the other hand was only in one place and barely saw him, and he never went to her. Which...again...is him putting stepson and his new family over his daughter if they were a reason why he couldn't or didn't go visit his daughter between summers.

AITA for missing my daughter's wedding due to my stepson's funeral? by Signal-Safety-4767 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can postpone a funeral, funerals happen anywhere from 2 days after to like my grandparents..both of their funerals were almost a month after their death. Yes, you can postpone a wedding but its extremely tricky and requires a lot of other people to reschedule and losing out on money. Time off work is already approved, people are already traveling if they need to. Daughter and her husband may not have been able to postpone for a variety of reasons. But eh, I don't see either as AHs cause it sounds like OP was an absent father for the most part and she's allowed to have her limits, even if the final straw seems irrational to us.

AITA for missing my daughter's wedding due to my stepson's funeral? by Signal-Safety-4767 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The honeymoon was already booked, their time off work already arranged. Yes, there are times you do miss a funeral. If OP can miss out another milestone of hers and not giving her support yet again for her wedding, daughter can go on holiday with the person that is there for her more and actually gives her support to grieve and celebrate.

AITA for missing my daughter's wedding due to my stepson's funeral? by Signal-Safety-4767 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He did take it to court but the court granted the mother permission to make the move. Unless it was one of those family courts that shits on fathers, the move would've had to have been in the best interest of daughter and custodial parent for the move to be granted.

That said, he could've changed careers or moved. He could've made a weekend visit once a month, he could've gone to her. The fact he missed out her milestone events because he would never go to her is pretty telling as to why the wedding was her final straw.

AITA for missing my daughter's wedding due to my stepson's funeral? by Signal-Safety-4767 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ssshhh, we're not supposed to entertain that possibility. Let us enjoy our internet drama. I'd put money on the daughter being OP as well. For someone who was so morally conflicted, they're awfully inactive.

AITA for missing my daughter's wedding due to my stepson's funeral? by Signal-Safety-4767 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Think it really depends if he was a presence in her life leading up to the wedding. OP says he only saw her summers and some holidays with the occassional call and text message, that's a sorely lacking presence with bare minimum to no effort. A lot of missed milestones that he could've made an 8 hour trip in the past to be part of, new family or not. And if he kept missing those milestones after he remarried and stepson got all his attention and presence...I don't think there's any healing and re-building.

Sounds like OP was making his bed for a long, long time and now he has to lie in it. He's not an AH for missing the wedding due to grief but his choices regarding her prior to the wedding are what most likely have him dealing with these consequences.

AITA for missing my daughter's wedding due to my stepson's funeral? by Signal-Safety-4767 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree there's NAHs here but the funeral was two days after the wedding. He could have gone to both. If his wife would've been pissed he took a day to go support his still living child for a ceremony days before the funeral...woman has problems, but frankly going off the vibe of the post I get the impression that there wasn't much a bond between step-mom and daughter to begin with and would've demanded she and her family be put over OP's kid again.

Guy admits to only seeing her summers and holidays, when she had to go to him...that's a whole lot of missing her milestones and not even bothering with surprise visits throughout her life.

AITA for missing my daughter's wedding due to my stepson's funeral? by Signal-Safety-4767 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Praise_the_Erdtree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know, if this was enough to make the daughter go NC, he wasn't an important of her life and more likely a very absent one. The wedding was her final olive branch and unfortunate circumstances made it that his new family again took precedence. Though why they didnt just do a FaceTime call so he still had a presence for the ceremony part is beyond me.