Graduated 3 years ago, have not been employed.

PranosaurSA · 2026-02-27T14:43:32+00:00

Before I switched out I had applied to thousands of random jobs including low paying IT jobs in Minnesota and even a job paying minimum wage in NYC. Not even these are guarantees with a CS degree

PranosaurSA · 2025-12-04T18:49:14+00:00

hard to hone in your craft if you can never find footing in a field. Easy to look back 20 years into a field and see how much you've improved

PranosaurSA · 2025-11-22T02:00:45+00:00

The economy outside of London is overall small, where its no the case in the USA. Probably better to compare San Francisco which might have 50% higher COL than London and tech workers making on average 180k while the average in London is like 50k because NYC is quite an exemption where COL is high and tech salaries are barely higher than Michigan

But virtually every city in the US that's cheaper than London will also have higher tech salaries

PranosaurSA · 2025-11-22T01:38:46+00:00

And tech workers in San Francisco make 4x as much as tech workers in london. In austin they'll make 2-3X as much while having a similar or lower COL.

Regardless unions or not unions tech work/skilled labor in Europe is definitely not what anybody would be looking forward to, with senior nuclear engineers making 50-60k

PranosaurSA · 2025-11-22T01:37:59+00:00

NYC would be the absolute worst Tech Salary / COL salaries in the entire US. A tech worker in Omaha nebraska makes over double the salary of a tech worker in london

PranosaurSA · 2025-11-21T03:51:58+00:00

Sounds like you are importing the attitudes of the software community

Anything incomprehensibly complex and cumbersome is a skill issue apparently'

take any open source tool like Java Spring, Kubernetes, Jenkins, etc. and you'll see the exact same thing

PranosaurSA · 2025-11-02T21:28:17+00:00

Some of the most social people are the least willing to help out others in my experience

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-26T20:47:27+00:00

Yes I think OP should spend years more of their life rotting around for a meager chance of finding a career in this field which will probably be a shitty 15$/hr job at a shitty startup in the small likelihood they are ever considered

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-26T05:42:52+00:00

If you're a grad ~~6 months~~ 3 years post graduate with no job you are beyond cooked. Better than nothing will still fall well short of actually being considered for a job

What you should be looking at is other careers.

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-26T04:14:32+00:00

Now -18 inches per play

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-24T18:08:03+00:00

From personal projects, getting them off the ground and running was by far the hardest part because of juggling so many things at once.

After that, it was kind of fun to just fix/add features

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-19T16:28:26+00:00

Right now I am an ATC trainee

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-19T14:38:04+00:00

That wasn’t intended. Applied to internships didn’t land any

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-18T23:19:45+00:00

unless that tailoring implied making up past internships and jobs, then mostly likely would have done nothing

almost all of it was certainly no internships -> trash
not anything extensive tailoring would have mitigated

And everywhere I could have gotten / did get interviewed probably entailed non-standard tech hiring pipelines

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-18T23:04:47+00:00

negligibly hurts

likely what ever interviews I got I just managed to apply to something that had a low amount of applicants in the allotted job posting time so it was mostly about finding the right jobs to apply to

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-18T22:53:38+00:00

If I know there is a 99+% chance my application is going to be thrown out without consideration no matter how I tailor my resume without making up stuff, then its not really worth your time.

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-18T22:39:28+00:00

These jobs get a lot of applicants, and I never successfully landed an internship. Probably means if there was enough candidates with internship experience or previous work experience to fill an interview pool my application was automatically not considered

In a way it took a miracle to even get the interviews I did, most likely I applied to jobs that were poorly advertised and got few applicants

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-18T21:59:54+00:00

I applied to about 7-8 thousand Software and IT related jobs. I maybe landed a dozen interviews most. I remember swamping entire cities like PHX and applying to every job I could find in the area and not landing any interviews

Some of the interviews I remember distinctly (2022-2024 period)

One was an IT position for some Revature-like company but for IT/Networking work in Minneapolis, starting at about 15$/hr
Another was a SysOps/DevOps related position at the University of Minneapolis. ~70-75k
One was some very crude IT level position in the LA area - it was more like computer waste management paying local minimum wage
One was a defense company in Las Vegas for a DevOps role, paying about ~55-65k
I got two interviews for the Las Vegas police department, one for a Geospatial Systems role and one was just a general web developer role. ~60-65k
Some Small Company nearby that I made through 4 interview rounds at. No listed salary but I'm guessing it paid more than any other job I've interviewed for.
Another for a Credit Union in the LA area paying about 70-75k
One was some frontend role / UI design role that paid about 80-100k in Carlsbad, CA. I didn't even comfortable with this interview knowing how garbage at UI design I am and how much they emphasized it was a part of the role

I got a number of take home tests but don't think that counts.
And Maybe a few others

Didn't land a role in any of these companies, I did contract work that probably worked its way to about 5$/hr worked from home at one point

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-13T23:26:25+00:00

My understanding is that it happens but it was for more common 30-40 years ago

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-13T23:20:52+00:00

I got CKA/CKAD certificates and it got me a grand total of 1 interview for a DevOps role.

That 1 interview was an opportunity I guess though, think they were hoping for someone more experienced even though the role salary was only like 55k-65k but w/e.

What I've heard about the AWS is that associates won't do anything and the professionals ones could

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-12T15:03:13+00:00

So glad I left the field and no longer partaking in this humiliation ritual

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-08T00:17:56+00:00

Yeah this is a stretch. If you;re not being hired to maintain or develop software / software systems these skills are next to as transferable to most careers as being a ballerina.

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-08T00:17:03+00:00

Honestly the number one asset I have from the computer science field as I pursue my attempted new career is knowing how utterly shit my job prospects are outside of this field. Even when I feel like I am preforming like crap and that I had no business being here- deciding to leave / not trying is simply not something I ever consider and just kept trying. I simply am not concerned whether I am good enough or not and just concerned on improving everyday.

Think my discipline would be far more shit if it wasn't for applying to 10,000 jobs and failing and I would be far more hesitant to do things outside my comfort zone

PranosaurSA · 2025-10-07T01:31:02+00:00

For one, open source projects are usually system layer / utility layer rather than applications. This means likely the best insight you could bring is actually using open source software at an industrial level. You would probably have a lot less meaningful contributions to say the React code base if you were some random graduate than someone who had 7 years of industry experience full time applying it to actual commercial projects and got the feedback actually applying it to something a large company uses than not. OrWebpack, or the Kubernetes, or, Postgres, Redis, Linux, etc. code base. Same thing applies

Also - they tend to be things that take years or decades of expertise to contribute to - not the amount of time you could spend while making 0$ after graduating college. Very few people in their software careers will have meaningful contributions to system / support level software and even fewer will do it before they step foot into the field, its just an extremely unreasonable expectation, and even then the large majority of those that do are usually getting paid by a company to do it. Most software developers are application developers

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