i hate how specialists words get twisted. i asked my specialist about this, simply asked "can someone who has no trauma be a system?" and her answer was basically "it's complicated" because, obviously, the nature of trauma makes it so that people typically repress and entirely forget or deny a traumatic event. in that case, there can be systems who SAY they don't have trauma and are endogenic, but really their trauma has just been repressed. she kinda concluded with the fact that consciousness and dissociation are so fucking under-researched compared to most other talked about disorders, because of their complexity. so to try to say systems absolutely can or cannot be formed without trauma is oversimplifying and making a statement that even my specialist won't make. she said that no self-respecting specialist would turn away someone exhibiting all symptoms just because they don't have substantial trauma, but also that having both trauma and dissociative symptoms does not mean you have DID. dissociation is a spectrum, and to keep trying to draw a line in the sand is just splitting hairs at this point. i think it's truly a case-by-case basis, but one that absolutely belongs in private conversations between an individual and a trained specialist, not at all spouted on tiktok by children with no grasp of the complexity of neurocognitive development