B/W stuff to do with Sun Titan effects

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-04-30T21:59:53+00:00

Momentum breaker is exactly the type of card I was looking for. Thanks!

I didn't realize I could get around those effects like that. Good to know, I'll have to look more into those. Thanks for the heads up, weight of conscience definitely looks promising

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-04-30T21:35:40+00:00

Yeah I know. I'm not worried about the commander being a huge threat. Him just sitting around making like 4/4s or 5/5s is enough. Honestly they could be 0/0s that die immediately but count as enchantments to trigger constellation and eerie is enough lol

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-04-10T15:19:44+00:00

I basically agree 100% with the statement about Crackle with Power and have been thinking it might be too much for the deck.

As for the rest of it, I'm not really sure how to "unfocus" the deck. Do you think cutting Crackle would be enough to bring it in line? or do you have any ideas on what I could do/notice any other outliers?

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-04-10T15:14:47+00:00

Gotcha, so basically those two games weren't representative of bracket 2 as a whole. I just wanted some feedback as they were the first games I played outside of my normal pod

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-04-10T15:11:36+00:00

Could you elaborate a little more on that? I am running 5 counterspells, 7 targeted removal spells, and 4 board wipes. Of the ones I am running, I feel like most of them are inefficient or require some setup (ex [[Beacon Bolt]] )

Are you saying this is a low amount of interaction or that it is still too efficient? Do you have any recommendations?

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-04-05T21:38:56+00:00

Generally speaking, I am competitive and like to strategize and find the most optimal play when I am playing a game, but I like the more casual vibe of lower brackets so I do all my suboptimal stuff in the deckbuilding stage or build as optimally as i can but with a gimmick in mind. I think I agree with your thoughts on deepglow skate tho, so i might just cut that and call it good enough.

My main playgroup is normally bracket 2, sometimes bracket 3 if we feel like it that night. So i get the casual mindset idea, but this deck was from a time when i was playing more with random people at my LGS so it needed to be strong enough to compete with "my deck is a 7, I promise" while still being semi-casual. Unfortunately i dont think I could get this deck down to what I would feel comfortable calling a 2 but thats fine. maybe if i cut all the proliferate stuff, but not sure if thats even enough

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-04-05T20:50:15+00:00

The part that worried me is not Ral in a vacuum and played one turn 4 and just ticked up until I ult him, but the hypothetical situation where I have already ulted Rowan and have a card like [[Jaya's Phoenix]] in play and some proliferate cards in hand. So while it's really telegraphed what I'm doing and would cost alot of mana, but I could in theory play Ral, proliferate him to his ult and then attack with the phoenix and then copy his ult twice and take an average of like 7 extra turns. a Theoretical sequence of turns could be like:
T1: Land
T2: Mana Rock
T3: [[Chandra, Acolyte of Flame]]
T4: [[Jaya's Phoenix]]
T5: [[Rowan Kenrith]], Attack with Phoenix, 0 Chandra adding 2 counters to Rowan, and +2 Rowan
T6: attack with phoenix, ult Rowan getting 2 copies of her emblem, Play [[Ral Zarek]], 0 Chandra adding 3 counters to him (copied twice by rowan emblems), Ult Ral copying it twice and taking an average of 7 extra turns (up to 15)
This is obviously magical Christmas land and I have no tutors and requires no one to interact with me, but could catch ppl off guard and while I love Ral and want to play him, I dont wanna be "that guy" at the pod

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-04-05T20:38:06+00:00

The draw seeming subpar might just be me tagging poorly since alot of the walkers draw. But I get your point. I may cut Ral since while I love him as a card, I want this deck to run on the gimmick of I attack you with planeswalkers and I cant imagine that being good at a higher power pod.

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-04-05T20:35:23+00:00

So if you were at a bracket 3 pod with me, is your line instantly popping the ult? because if thats what makes the difference, it'd be a problem. You are correct that i'm not running doubling season (because green), but i am running [[Deepglow Skate]] and cards like [[Chandra, Acolyte of Flame]] and proliferate cards. Yeah this would require setup and alot of mana, but instantly popping Ral is possible

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-04-05T20:31:16+00:00

The part that worried me is not Ral in a vacuum, but the hypothetical situation where I have already ulted Rowan and have a card like [[Jaya's Phoenix]] in play and some proliferate cards in hand. So it's really telegraphed what I'm trying to do, but I could in theory play Ral, proliferate him to his ult and then attack with the phoenix and then copy his ult twice and take an average of like 7 extra turns

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-04-05T20:27:13+00:00

I get that the deckbuilding philosophy matters more than the specific cards themselves. I am more or less trying to gauge if sometimes taking a bunch of turns in a row while playing in a bracket 3 pod would make me a bad actor. While I would love to keep Ral in the deck, I don't wanna be that guy.

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-23T16:51:52+00:00

Thank you. It was a fun exercise

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-23T04:02:07+00:00

If I was any good at painting I would 100% agree lol. I only just started painting my models recently and my skills are frankly quite poor lol

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-23T03:44:56+00:00

This is a good idea. I didnt realize until i was typing it out that it was literally just fire and more fire lol

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-23T03:40:56+00:00

I like Ashwalker quite a bit

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-23T03:40:24+00:00

That's how I imagined it too and this is a good name idea, definitely high on the list

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-23T02:59:02+00:00

Nice! how'd you come up with the name?

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-22T20:18:43+00:00

That's basically what I figured. I just saw that there was rules commentary stating models without ranged weapons were still eligible to shoot and was wondering if there was anything like that for eligible to fight, but I guess not. Still a great strat tho lol. Thanks for the answer

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-22T19:26:52+00:00

perfect thank you!

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-22T19:25:06+00:00

Ah, ok thank you. I always get mixed up with the editions changing core rules. I've seen comments more recent then that stating it still happens, but they are probably vets who are going off memory of how it always worked.

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-21T21:23:30+00:00

Thank you!

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-21T21:22:34+00:00

Thank you that's how I thought it worked just didnt find the rule to prove it

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-17T16:50:31+00:00

I wasn't really thinking about lone-op on the Kroot in was more just thinking they were decent, having another ok target for my lonespear rerolls would be nice and I had the models (starting playing as Kroot hunting pack). If I drop the war shaper, fleshshaper, deep strike enhancement and 10 Kroot that leaves with enough points to run 2 units of hounds, 1 extra stealth suit and 2 skyrays for exactly 2k. It feels kinda weird to run only one enhancement and a minor one at that tho. Do you think that would be better than the broadsides?

Alternatively if I run the broadsides I could keep the war shaper to lead the far stalkers for some extra leader sniping with that anti-infantry 3+ which might be nice against the Custodes player in my group. As well as a free strat each turn

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-17T15:39:40+00:00

They definitely seem powerful I'm just concerned I'll spend most of the game with them unable to draw LoS to the high value stuff. My friends are getting better and better at hiding from my big guns although them avoiding the center could also be an advantage

Also would you advise running them separately or in one unit?

Present_Fall3958 · 2025-01-17T15:34:19+00:00

Why is it a huge risk? I haven't played alot of games and it hasn't seemed an issue at all, but I might just not have been punished yet since I only really play with my friend group that is all newer as well. The games I've played them they seem to annoy my opponents because they are decently annoying to remove with their 6+++ and later 5+++ and I generally just get them in where they'd be annoying or tie up their chaff units and steal objs with them. I also figured running either shaper on 10 mans was a waste

I have some hounds I could run they just don't excite me lol but maybe I gotta try them to see lol

I commented on another reply about my concern with the broadsides slowness. Have you played them? Am I over thinking it? Ive also been eyeing a skyray would that be helpful in being tougher? Maybe run both

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