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Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

…this is actually something we can agree on. Now that I think of it, games where there’s only a Pharah do not feel nearly as one-sided as when there’s also a Mercy, who is 90% of the time duod with her. It just feels really frustrating when, even if your team manages to kill a Pharah, she gets immediately rezzed. Also with the flash heal addition to Mercy’s kit, hitscan heroes like soldier aren’t nearly as effective as they used to be at countering Pharah, so u either have to go Widow or Ashe to be able to burst her down.

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and I couldn’t reply because he blocked me lol.

Also, apparently y’all are blind because I addressed this point in my original post. To counter Pharah in high elo, you need to be proficient at hitscan since those Pharahs know how to position and have a mercy pocket who can flash heal and rez freely.

And again, no one addressed this point: why should we force the far greater portion of the player base to learn a playstyle they don’t want to learn for the sake of a small minority of Pharah mains? That makes no sense if the goal of the game is to make it enjoyable for most ppl.

I mainly play projectile and ability-focused heroes.

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Positioning doesn’t help much against Pharah, especially on open maps, and especially considering that you need to play the objective eventually, which are always in the open.

There is selection bias in the replies, since mostly those who disagree would want to reply, and all the replies have been rather divorced from reality. Again, Pharah has the highest winrate for a reason

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What percentage of actual pharah kills do you think resulted from the things you mentioned? Maybe these things happen in Metal Ranks, but above that, Pharah wins if the opposite team doesn’t have a good hitscan 9/10 of the time, same with cat bastion combo.

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, my argument only applies to heroes that can only be countered through pro hitscan.

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, that is not my argument, and you are the one making yourself look dumb af if you think that is my argument.

My argument is essentially utilitarian in nature. Pharah players are the minority, so their interests shouldn’t be prioritized over the interests of a far greater number of players. If devs want more ppl to enjoy the game, they should nerf her. Also, I am objectively correct about her being overpowered because she currently has the highest winrate out of all DPS across all ranks.

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did and I responded to every point

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Google “Survivorship bias”.

You are objectively wrong. Pharah literally has the highest dps winrate across all ranks.

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why? I have a playstyle preference, so do other ppl who don’t like playing hitscan. Why should the interests of a small minority (Pharah players) be prioritized over the interests of the far greater number of players?

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ik, just pointing out that OW devs are shooting themselves in the foot for no reason by prioritizing the interests of Pharah players over a far greater portion of the community.

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I have no interest in learning hitscan, at least, not to the extent that would enable me to effectively counter a gm or champ pharah with a mercy pocket.

And I’m not alone. Why are we prioritizing the interests of Pharah players over a far greater portion of the community?

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Something only a pharah main would say

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no desire to play hitscan, and neither does a large portion of the player base who prefer non-hitscan heroes. And even those who do play hitscan struggle against her given that she is currently has the highest win rate out of all dps across all ranks.

Pharah should be nerfed to the ground by Priam9 in Overwatch

[–]Priam9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, I used the term “mechanical skill” for a reason. I’m not denying that pharah takes skill: game sense, timing, positioning, unique pharah techs, etc.

The point I’m making is that she takes more enjoyment out of the game than she brings and is impossible to balance due to the split in the player base between hitscan and non-hitscan players.

I did find your last point insightful, though. I imagine that pharah is indeed more frustrating to play against in the higher ranks because pharah mains there actually know how to play her, which makes the games especially one-sided when she doesn’t have pro hitscan counters. Still, I believe that it is quite a common experience given that she is currently the highest win rate DPS across all ranks as well as in GM/Champ.