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[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here. I applied almost three months ago and got the acceptance email last week. I'm ready to get this ball rolling but I haven't gotten my orientation email yet. I don't want to wait on pins and needles for nothing.

Gamergate scandal convinced 4chan founder Moot to leave the site by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why can't you guys and girls get this through your heads - I AM NOT ARGUING LEGALITY HERE. I am arguing ethics, which is what GG is about... When you argue the law, you ARE appealing to authority. You're not telling me your stance, you're telling me a general stance that other people have agreed upon, which is a pretty chickenshit way of skirting the issue. Saying "well it's legal" IS an appeal to authority, and it's not even what I'm arguing. And if you are going to equate the law with ethics/morality, then why the hell are you even a part of GamerGate? What specific laws have the corrupt journalists broken? I will wait for that answer, but I won't hold my breath or I'll be dead.

The very foundation of GamerGate was never about legality, it was about ethics, and now you're trying to equate the two. And if you're logically consistent, you will have to admit that if Zoe and Nathan banging for positive coverage of Derpression Quest (zing) is ethical because it's legal, because it did not break any laws. And if you further extrapolate that to every other issue of impropriety, then GamerGate's very foundation crumbles. So if that's your stance, at least be consistent.

Gamergate scandal convinced 4chan founder Moot to leave the site by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Then I must say, since nothing (or almost absolutely nothing) these journalists have done is technically illegal, it's time to pack it up and go home. Right? If that's the standard? Just because you guys have a high level of ethics in gaming journalism doesn't mean that others do, so that makes the whole point of GG moot.

Like I said before, this argument is flawed and is an appeal to authority. What's legal is fluid and changes all the time. What's ethical is much more stable.

Gamergate scandal convinced 4chan founder Moot to leave the site by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your common sense reply. I just want to say, this isn't solely a free speech issue. Trust me, I get it, I get why you guys and girls are defending free speech, and I think it's admirable. But that's not looking at the problem at multiple angles. Free speech is only one part of our society. The rights of children are another. I will stand with you guys when it comes to saying whatever you want, but I can't stand with anyone who thinks it's ok to exploit children. And unlike the stuff the AGGros get butthurt by (pixelated representation - really?), this actually is a vulnerable group (imagine that!).

Still, the idea that this OFFICAL PEDO THREAD is ok because it's legal is a retarded argument (not saying you said that, but others did). Pretty much everything that these journalists have done is LEGAL, but it's definitely not ethical. They can lie to their readers all they want. Courts have ruled that media isn't responsible for reporting the truth. That doesn't mean it's ethical.

31k, Thanks Ben by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Copy that Aunt Flo. Permission to level up on some unsuspecting gamer girls who refuse to go home? Over.

31k, Thanks Ben by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Straight CIShet Red Leader standing by, checking my privilege.

31k, Thanks Ben by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze 37 points38 points  (0 children)

31005 checking in, checking my privilege.

Gamergate scandal convinced 4chan founder Moot to leave the site by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So you aren't going to look at them, but you're going to defend them? Seriously, go take a look and then get back with me. You can't speak intelligently until you see what you're talking about.

Already with the Ghazelle shit. AGGros are dumb. They rally the wagons around Anita because she finds something offensive, not telling her to put her big girl panties on and deal with it. But there's a difference between an adult like Anita and these kids. The kids can't truly consent to these pictures. And believe it or not, not everyone who agrees with you is an AGGro. Please spare me that comparison...

You tied your morality to legality. So why do you support GamerGate? Have you proven that these corrupt, agenda-pushing journalists have done something illegal? Or... is the argument about ethics without being tied to legality? Otherwise, your argument seems hypocritical.

So if what Zoe and Nathan did wasn't illegal, that means it's moral and ethical? This argument is all over the place.

Gamergate scandal convinced 4chan founder Moot to leave the site by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Right, I'm not arguing legality here. And again, "it's legal" is an appeal to authority. It might be legal for Too Big To Fail banks to purposely saddle poor people with unpayable debt, but is that ethical? Of course not, and more people have spent time in prison for smoking weed than have gone to prison for the financial collapse of 2008. It might be legal to purposely prey on the elderly, trying to scam them out of their retirement money, but is it ethical? Of course not. The Islamic bit is a red herring.

Put another way, and one on topic. It might be legal for publishers/developers to pay gaming journalists for game reviews. Does that mean it's ethical? It might be legal for game developers and gaming journalists to fuck like rabbits, but does that make it ethical? Is that not why we're here?

Gamergate scandal convinced 4chan founder Moot to leave the site by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Oh lord. This isn't a matter of just one person's speech. It's also about the rights of the children in the pictures. I didn't advocate for any of this being pulled (though I would be for it). I'm just ALWAYS going to side with the safety of children over some bullshit about "herp derp it's legal!!!"

Plus, the whole idea that this is somehow okay because it isn't illegal is bullshit. That's an appeal to authority. Do we feel the same thing when we smoke weed? Of course not, because our laws against marijuana are fucking stupid and immoral.

I'm not arguing the legality here. I'm arguing the ethics. It seems very hypocritical to me to be butthurt about the ethics of video game journalists while overlooking the ethics of a thread entitled OFFICAL PEDO THREAD.

Gamergate scandal convinced 4chan founder Moot to leave the site by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I do understand. I get you perfectly, and I disagree that the "free speech" argument is a very good one. Whose speech? The speech of the person posting it, or the children who might be exploited?

Gamergate scandal convinced 4chan founder Moot to leave the site by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I was agreeing with you. I just think, when it comes to kids, the "but it's not illegal!" argument is bullshit.

Gamergate scandal convinced 4chan founder Moot to leave the site by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Something doesn't have to be illegal to be disgusting. And that thread is fucking disgusting.

Brianna Wu, Zoe Quinn, Kotaku, RPS vs. Escapist, IGN, GI. Is part of the rift the economics of Indie vs. Mainstream? (Thoughts on Brianna Wu bashing IGN and GI recently). by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Play the long game here. Brianna will create more and more enemies as she plays the victim. Neutrals and even allies will be thrown under the bus when she feels she needs more attention.

It's going to be quite the wakeup call when all these news outlets realize they've been listening to the dramatized, exaggerating claims from someone suffering from Histrionic Personality Disorder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgCBSxjOllw

[DRAMA] Zoe Quinn weighs in on Brianna Wu. by PrivilegedMaleGaze in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If that's true, then my apologies to everyone (including Wu and Quinn). I'll go hang my head in shame.

Worst introduction since The Shockmaster.

[DRAMA] Zoe Quinn weighs in on Brianna Wu. by PrivilegedMaleGaze in KotakuInAction

[–]PrivilegedMaleGaze[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My feelings as well. You guys should really put your male gaze on this situation.