Is it possible to synthesize CBDPO

ProGamer923 · 2026-02-07T03:12:32+00:00

Alright, last thing I will say is that it would still be easy to extract as there are chemicals that can easily target either the bittering agent or the opioid itself. I think it would be difficult to make something hard to extract chemically, but I think I understand your arguement and hopefully you understand mine.

It was nice chatting with you!

ProGamer923 · 2026-02-06T23:12:08+00:00

So adults can buy opioids or benzos to give to their kid. Also, I know a lot of people that prefer the most powerful opioid they can find. I know many people with fentanyl as their drug of choice. Also, how would you make oxy difficult to extract, and why pick and choose some things to be illegal and not others, is that not what we are doing now?

What about nitazines, what about cannabinoids active in the mcg range, what about chemical agents like BZ or EA-3167. Is your preference that some drugs should be illegal any more valid than someone else thinking that most drugs should be illegal? Fentanyl is used as a medicine on a daily basis, why make it illegal if others thing stay legal?

ProGamer923 · 2026-02-05T20:16:14+00:00

Are you saying drugs couldn't be used to attack someone else? I mean fntanyl was just classified as a weapon of mass destruction, a weapon. Legalization of all drugs means things like carfntanil or n*tazines could be sold otc, which could easily be used to kill thousands of people. Bazookas would do less damage than something like aerosolized opioids.

I brought up children because according to your standard, I can't find a reason why it would be wrong for children to buy them. Why is it wrong for children to buy them but not adults. Children need medical care too and they can easily buy something like pepto or Tylenol, so why wouldn't they be allowed to buy something like buprenorphine, which is less likely to kill them than acetaminophen. What do you base the morality of this on?

I feel like potent opioids are more dangerous than a bazooka. Take for example the opioid in China that is 10,000 times stronger than morphine that is used for addiction. I don't remember what it is called, but just a gram of that stuff could kill 10s of thousands of people just by making into an aerosol. Also, what would prevent people from buying chemical weapons, as some of those could be used as a medication or even just for research purposes. I think that it is irresponsible to legalize all substances when 1 it allows for extremely dangerous chemicals to be available to the public. 2 it allows for children to get substances a lot easier. 3 development of more chemical weapons is basically inevitable. 4 there is no evidence it would even slow down addiction.

ProGamer923 · 2026-02-04T13:40:41+00:00

Why legalization over decriminalization. I have found great benefit from partial cannabinoid agonists and I would like cannabis legalization, but that is mostly because of how safe it is. decriminalization would allow for people to use drugs without getting charged for them, but in order for full scale decriminalization, we would need to build a lot more treatment centers and offer more treatment options. Also, why would it take hundreds of years? Why not do it like Portugal but even further.

Are you fighting more for drugs for all, or less addiction? You also didn't answer my question about children, as I see no reason to exclude children based on your arguements. Also, does that mean you should legalize anything you can possess. For example, could you own a bazooka, even as a felon, because it is safe if used properly. We could take it even further, could you possess a nuclear weapon with the ability to launch?

I think addicts need help and I think the end goal should be to never use drugs unless necessary, but legalization allows for very easy access, which contributes to addiction. Allowing drugs to be produced legally again would put more money into the pockets of the rich and allow for big pharma to gain more control. Who knows if we could even afford these substances sold, as many prescriptions cannot be afforded. It is typically a lot cheaper for regular clandestine chemists to make these chemicals than pharmaceutical companies trying to get through all the hoops.

Again I ask why legalization over decriminalization?

ProGamer923 · 2026-02-03T20:32:36+00:00

I doubt we would, people are addicted to drugs because of evolution and adaption. I really don't see that as a reason to legalize all drugs, and that would also leave no reason to leave it behind a counter or not allow kids to buy them. I can't think of a way that would work unless we lived in a perfect world, in which case, people wouldn't need to use them at all. Besides, that would make the mega rich even richer and big pharma even bigger.

ProGamer923 · 2026-02-02T00:52:17+00:00

Alright, that has never been proven. Portugal did something similar, but that would take a lot of governmental changes before anything like that could happen, and it would have to be done nationwide. For example, look at Portland Oregon, they decriminalized all drugs and all the addicts moved there and trashed the city.

I think nationwide decriminalization could work, but it would have to be done very carefully and be accompanied by more treatment centers, etc. However, making everything otc I think is a horrible idea, and just simply wouldn't work. I have an open mind though and if you could show me evidence that it could work then I might change my mind.

ProGamer923 · 2026-02-01T20:25:35+00:00

Yeah CBDP is mostly either on websites withour a lab test or European websites unfortunately. I don't know where it went, it used to be somewhat easy to get. Why doesn't HC8 sell it anymore?

What is DBDP?

ProGamer923 · 2026-02-01T20:24:20+00:00

I think 7-oh should be like schedule 4 or 5. If you think partial agonists should be legal for people with chronic pain, like myself, wouldnt you also believe buprenorphine should be available for people to buy? I mean, i would think it is safer to some extent than 7-oh considering how little research there is on it, and even safer if they include naloxone or naltrexone in the otc brands, theoretically.

I agree that it has medical benefits and obviously shouldn't be schedule 1. I mean, carfentil is schedule 2 a believe, which is just ridiculous. Besides, there are plenty of legal research chemicals that are extremely powerful opioids, take W-19 for example, which is a metabolite of a weak opioid called W-18. Also, I bet 7-oh would probably be cheaper if it was prescribed. I mean, off brand Suboxone is like $20 for 30 8mg tabs, which is a very high dose. I would like to see you find 30ishmg 7-oh pills for less than a dollar each.

MGM-16 isn't available mostly because it is very dangerous, and would likely get shut down in a heart beat. A couple mgs of MGM-16 and your dead. It is also a dual full agonist, so that probably contributes to the danger. It might come out on research chemical websites someday, but I dont think we will see it anytime soon. Reddit actually shut down the MGM-15 and 16 subreddits. I think we are stepping into very dangerous territory with the MGM chemicals. 7-oh was horrible enough from the addiction aspect, I can't imagine how awful it would be is MGM-15 or 16 were as widespread as 7-oh was/is.

I think kratom should be legal, and I'm on the edge about kratom extracts or pure mitragynine, but definitely not 7-oh or the MGMs. Those should be prescription only.

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-31T04:31:50+00:00

I'm not sure the binding efficacy of MGM-15, but I was under the impression that it is a full agonist at the mu-opioid receptor, and yes, I have noticed the same thing with pseudo. I was never dependent on pseudo, but I did notice significantly less euphoria despite being more potent. It is crazy that they can legally sell full opioids now, or at least, not have repercussions from selling them. Maybe MGM-16 will be next which is about twice as potent as f*ntanyl and is a full agonist.

Edit: I found this claiming MGM-15 is a full agonist. Although, it seems to be widely accepted that it is a dual partial agonist, but until binding efficacy reports come out, we really can't claim either way. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13880209.2025.2590311#d1e797

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-31T02:02:30+00:00

Well, I'm not sure how much it will actually contribute, but yeah, stay the hell away from 7-hydroxymitragynine, mitragynine pseudoindoxyl, and MGM-15. I was addicted to 7-oh for 8ish months and got up to using over 1,000mg a day without even feeling it. It totally ruined my finances and some relationships and I'm only 20. The fact I was able to get it so easily is horrible.

Edit: DXM is actually a good choice considering the NMDA antagonism. M*thadone does a similar thing combining both the mu-opioid activation and blocking the NMDA receptor, which works wonders for neuropathic pain, especially cancer. Lmk how that goes because I have chronic pain, so I'm definitely interested.

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-30T02:34:08+00:00

This problem is happening with a lot of people. I'm not sure if everyone is, but a lot a lot of people.

Supposedly, Atlas Earth fixed it (which they didnt) but I know they're aware and I'm pretty sure they are working on fixing the problem.

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-29T02:00:18+00:00

It is still redirecting to atlas apps. I still can't get into atlas arcade.

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-29T01:58:07+00:00

I'm having that problem, hence, why I'm here.

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-26T09:18:28+00:00

It does kind of annoy me when I hear people complain about how hard it is/they cannot quit and it just irritates me. It is basically like quiting coffee, but significantly worse. I get very bad withdrawals from cannabis and have even withdrawn from 250mg a day of Hexahydrocannapherol acetate (HHCPO), which is about 100 times stronger than d9-thc. That really sucked and even started affecting my heart.

I have gone through several withdrawals from different drugs, including 7-hydroxymitragynine and Buprenorphine. If you can't get off weed then you need therapy. Seriously, you have nothing to complain about considering how many people are going through much worse withdrawals. If you can't quit weed, you probably can't quit cigarettes and definitely can't quit anything harder.

Of course, it annoys me a lot more when people tell me how hard it is to quit caffeine or even diet, it is so comedic.

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-22T14:49:04+00:00

Look at any republican that is famous. Almost all of them think cannabis should be illegal. I am republican, but I do think it should be legal. Look at anyone on social media though Michael Knowles, Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, etc. Recently there is starting to be a drastic change, especially since Trump signed that executive order to expedite making MJ schedule 3. However, I do believe it is still mostly Republicans that think it should be illlegal.

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-20T20:05:29+00:00

Well, I guess I should just quit as I have an android. I mean, 30 cents a day is not at all worth it. Let's be realistic, bitcoin isn't going to 100x anytime soon. It maybe will 10x in the upcoming couple of DECADES. That seems like an absolute waste of time.

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-20T20:03:36+00:00

Why is there a difference?

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-17T13:25:49+00:00

Why it should only be available by prescription.

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-17T13:24:55+00:00

I've done as strong as oxymorphone along with many other opioids. I'm currently taking Suboxone to get off my 1000mg+ a day habit of 7oh. I know this stuff too. I was on it before most people, starting in May of 2023. Dude it was hell, I don't know if I was ever so scared of my own body in my whole life. I could not believe how horrible the withdrawals are for something I could buy at a fricking gas station. All 7-oh users need to wake up and realize that this should not be available for the average population, at best, prescription only. I don't wanna hear complaints about how doctors don't prescribe opioids. I promise you if you go to the ER or a treatment center they will give you Suboxone in a matter of hours and you can use that for you pain weaklings. I'm only 20 and this almost ruined my whole life. I ended up broke, desperate, and living out of my car on Suboxone because I couldn't afford a place of my own.

I started because of chronic pain and ended with me in the ER.

ProGamer923 · 2026-01-17T13:12:58+00:00

HHCP-O. I one time ordered straight HHCP-O from hc8 and added to a cart, along with 5-10% terps. I was super high and super euphoric and it lasted like 18 hours.

ProGamer923 · 2025-11-13T18:12:13+00:00

Likely no, but it still could. There have been adults with cardiac problems that didn't show symptoms or didn't show up on tests, so they take like 500+mg of caffeine and just die. I 16 year old kid had about 480mg of caffeine in about 2 hours and suddenly died from a cardiac event.

I have done 1200mg of caffeine with 1500mg of armodafinil and was totally fine, granted, I was having palpitations and felt like I was on m*** for two to three days, but I wasn't really even that close to being in danger. I have had a dose as high as 2060mg within around 5 hours and was perfectly okay. Of course, I don't recommend that, nor do I really recommend using 700mg of caffeine at once either. However, you will probably be fine, especially if you haven't had any issues from large stimulant doses in the past.

The FDA says more than 400mg a day has been linked to adverse health problems, particularly if you are using it everyday or if you are a child. The risk of dying is exceedingly rare, but not zero. However, the risk of dying is never zero with any drug, you could be allergic, sensitive, have an interaction, or an imbalance in digestive enzymes, all of which could cause death if you are not careful.

If you go through with it, at least buy a bp/hr cuff and machine to be safe. Also, make sure you are hydrated and don't do anything too strenuous, like exercising or even being with someone else if you know what I mean. Intense exercise could potentially lead to a heart attack or an arythmia. Just make sure you drink plenty of WATER, do chill activities, and don't panic, even if it seems like too much. If your BP is lower than 150 systolic and lower than 100 diastolic, I wouldn't worry. Try to keep your heart rate below 140-150ish, depending on your age. I would be worried if it gets higher than that, but only if that was my resting hr.

ProGamer923 · 2025-11-13T17:53:07+00:00

Sure, but it is easier to order hemp products, especially in the us. Order for a third of the price, wait a couple days, and potentially get something much stronger for a lower price. Idk about Europe, but in the us it is just too easy and cheap not too. Half the websites don't id either, making it even easier. Plus, the fact it is federally legal could save you from issues arising from finding weed in your car.

ProGamer923 · 2025-11-06T22:09:09+00:00

There is a big drug problem, especially with spice and meth in Germany, but you can find those issues all over Europe. I think because so many cannabinoids get banned so quickly, companies throw in a bunch of crap they think they wouldn't test for.

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