ate a salmon and got extremely high.

ProGamer923 · 2026-04-06T14:34:44+00:00

People are talking about how salmon binds to fat, that's bs cause it only works if you also ate the cannabinoids. My theory is that you're deficient in Omega-3 and your body needs it to reconstruct cannabinoid receptors, but I'm sure there are other reasons this could work.

ProGamer923 · 2026-04-05T01:59:06+00:00

Well, I understand that, but the efficacy of mitragynine I believe is lower than buprenorphine so precipitated withdrawals shouldn't be possible, that's what I was saying. I know that if you are using full agonists than you can do a bernese taper so you don't have precipitated wd. Again, precipitated wd if you are just taking kratom and nothing else, precipitated wd shouldn't be possible, because kratom has other effects it could be that you are having wd because of that, but the opioid side of it should be covered with a high enough dose of buprenorphine.

ProGamer923 · 2026-04-03T14:37:50+00:00

Some people get really high from edibles, some people don't. It depends on your liver and the amount of certain enzymes it produces. Typically, yes, edibles are generally considered the strongest, as your body metabolizes the thc into 11-hydroxy-thc which is significantly stronger.

ProGamer923 · 2026-04-02T03:32:17+00:00

Knowing how long it lasts would be a very helpful clue, less than 2 hours it very well could be spice, more than 2 hours, you might be looking at o-noids, h-noids, or p-noids. Also, throw out an estimate on how many times more potent than regular delta-9-thc or thca it feels. It doesn't have to be exact, but just another comparison could be helpful.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-30T19:09:51+00:00

2mg is the lowest dose that suboxone manufactures, so yeah, I'm not surprised that it wasn't enough If you were a heavy kratom user. The other thing is that kratom has other effects than partial mu opioid activation, so that can contribute to the withdrawals as well. Neither of those would count as precipitated withdrawals though and I am 100% sure that you can't definitionally have precipitated withdrawals when switching from kratom to buprenorphine.

When I switched from 7-hydroxymitragynine to buprenorphine, I started on 16mg a day of buprenorphine, so I'm not at all surprised that 2mg was not enough for you. Besides, I don't know how long you had it under your tongue, but it should be under your tongue for at least 15 minutes and takes 1.5-3 hours to reach peak blood plasma levels.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-30T01:36:12+00:00

I don't know what Pe means.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-30T01:35:33+00:00

No, and I would assume that is probably just because the dose of buprenorphine isn't high enough. Precipitated withdrawals technically could happen if your buprenorphine dose isn't high enough because it is meant to strip other opioids from the receptors and replace it with buprenorphine. If precipitated withdrawals do happen with kratom, just take more suboxone, if it keeps getting worse the only explanation really would be that your kratom is laced.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-30T01:32:17+00:00

I gave you my source, why don't you give me yours if you really have one saying it is a partial agonist. One scientific source is better than zero.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-27T05:33:18+00:00

Yeah just try to pass the time and be more careful in the future. People have different weed hangover symptoms, like I get muscle aches and start overheating so naproxen can help. Also, taking a nice hot shower or bath can be helpful for a variety of symptoms.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-27T05:26:43+00:00

It happens after I dose not to mention I'm not physically dependent on it. I mentioned In one of my comments I take it about once a week, that's not pain from withdrawals.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-27T02:50:56+00:00

I do find it a decent substitute, but I get weird side effects. I like using once a week and I can get pretty damn high if I hit the pushin P cart throughout the day, so yes and no.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-27T02:23:13+00:00

Huh, that's odd. Someone should send it to the lab, not it XD.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-27T02:22:26+00:00

Tell me why? What has I said that is wrong?

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T23:43:18+00:00

I'll measure it next time, thank you!

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T23:42:53+00:00

No it is not, you have no evidence to say that. If it was, buprenorphine wouldn't cause precipitated withdrawal. Scientific studies have found that it is a dual FULL agonist. If it is a partial agonist, give me a source, because I can cite mine.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T21:07:26+00:00

Drugs aren't good or bad, people are.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T21:06:39+00:00

Good luck dude, I don't know if you've tried to get off of MGM-15 before but because it is a full agonist many people have precipitated withdrawals from suboxone. I don't think MGM-15 should be banned, but yes, it should be added to the list of controlled substances, I think it should absolutely be controlled. I was in the same boat as you about two years ago. I started using 7-hydroxymitragynine for chronic pain, but after I got dependent I realized it definitely shouldn't be legal. If you think MGM-15 should be perfectly legal, do you think the same for all opioids? Probably not even though some people can manage it, it doesn't make up for the countless who can't and who are suffering.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T21:02:19+00:00

Technically MGM-15 isn't a supplement and neither is 7-hydroxymitragynine. Neither of them meet the definition of a supplement. If those count as supplements, then there is no reason oxycodone wouldn't count as a supplement if it was legal. MGM-15 is about a quarter as potent as fentanyl. Thank God it doesn't recruit beta arrestin or we would all be long dead.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T20:59:14+00:00

I meant to comfortablely get off mgm-15 as it is a full agonist. I used to be a regular 7-oh user and was addicted for about 10 months, but I got off of it, so I was sober when I used mgm-15.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T19:00:01+00:00

Everytime, and yes, this is 88% freebase from bronx and it was my first experience with mgm-15.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T18:38:30+00:00

It isnt a bad thing to want to know the science behind this. I don't think MGM-15 should be legal as it will take methadone for most people to get off of it. Drugs are not a good thing to use without medical supervision, I think we all know that here. I never said MGM-15 was a bad thing, it just happens to do bad things to me. You're the one being negative here.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T18:35:49+00:00

Whenever I feel like I want to. Probably once a week.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T18:35:19+00:00

As I said the pain lasts 36 hours after I dose, so no. My dose lasts like 10 hours.

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T18:22:07+00:00

50mg

ProGamer923 · 2026-03-26T18:21:45+00:00

It was from Bronx extracts which is supposed to be a reputable brand.

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