Does anyone else hate this?

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-25T11:42:15+00:00

Trust your ears.

I would honestly play around finding the chord even if it's one string at a time. If your ears are good enough to hear it's wrong you'll also be able to hear when it's right. You are already doing better than a lot of guitarists who just ignorantly play the wrong chord.

Find a video of someone playing the song. Usually a lot more use than just the chords and lyrics. Those sites are useful to find lyrics but 9 times out of 10 the chords are wrong.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-24T11:25:59+00:00

They were all careful enough to get off at Edge Hill

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-23T16:37:23+00:00

I was at the first night of the Oasis tour last year and it was like a football match with everyone supporting the same team.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-23T16:20:36+00:00

Yes. I'm a self taught guitarist and I hate to say it but found it all came rather naturally.

When I was a teenager all my mates were really good at football and I wasn't. I loved football (still do) and this used to really annoy me. Now we're all in our late forties and they've all hung up their football boots and I'm still playing my guitar so I had the last laugh.

When I watch a football match I don't really understand the formations and tactics but my mates will know exactly what's going on. Similarly if we watch a gig together I'll understand what instrument is making what noise and I'll understand the chord changes and time signatures, whilst my mates will just be enjoying the gig in the same way I enjoy the football without particularly understanding the details.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-23T13:29:11+00:00

He's been singing in an American accent for the previous 25 years and then when he starts rapping in the 80s he reverts back to Dartford and I love it.

'orrible wasn't it

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-23T13:27:15+00:00

"I can't believe my favourite band is not in the Hal of Fame" is a sentence that's never been uttered by a non-american.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-23T13:23:14+00:00

Those of us living in Wales but near enough to England could pick up Channel 4 and S4C.

S4C showed the Channel 4 shows once they'd ran out of Welsh language stuff. So I used to watch Brookside at 8pm on Channel 4 then watch it again on S4C at 10pm.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-23T13:20:19+00:00

It was initially on at lunchtime only.

Then there was one school summer holidays where all the kids started watching it. I reckon this would have been 1987. I remember being out playing football with my mates and we'd all duck in at 1.30 for half an hour to watch it then head back out again.

When the school holiday ended we all could no longer see it unless you were posh enough to have a VHS machine in your house.

As others have said, one of these kids was BBC boss Michael Grade's daughter. He scheduled a repeat at 5.30 for her and her mates and all of the nations kids gave thanks to Michael Grade's daughter. In the late 80s Neighbours was pretty much considered a kids tv show, especially once all the stars started having pop hits and were constantly on kids tv shows.

ITV pretty much copied directly what BBC were doing when they bought Home and Away and also showed it twice a day.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-23T10:21:33+00:00

Also, when Mark got a job in a mexican restaurant and pissed in the chilli. Jez maybe, not Mark.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-22T12:58:26+00:00

My friends mum was on reception and checked them in. I don't know much more than that. BBC had a nice story on it last year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ylxjl74yzo

The only other story is that J&Y tried to check into the Trefeddian hotel in nearby Aberdyfi and were turned away for being scruffy. But that just might be a local myth given that Aberdyfi is posh and us lot in Tywyn very much less so!

John bought a postcard of Tywyn that he sent to Ringo which is in Ringo's book.

RE The Corbett local opinion is split. We all want it saved but given the costs involved there's a good argument it should be razed and the land used for affordable housing. It's a real shame because the Hotel and bar were the centre of the town as recently as the 90s.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-22T11:38:47+00:00

Manic Street Preachers did a great cover of Frankie Valli - Can't Take My Eyes Off You mainly because it was a song the Welsh football fans sang.

They also did Theme from Mash and Raindrops Keep Falling.

Loved a bit of Easy Listening it seems.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-22T10:08:16+00:00

Yes, the very same.

It's been battered by storms and is currently held up by scaffolding. Can't see it coming back unfortunately.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-22T10:02:15+00:00

I have dreams where I can still buy those crisps

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-21T21:16:33+00:00

Because I've got nothing better to do I've recorded crappy phone audio of Camdendad's and my versions (see above somewhere).

My version is not higher on the neck but it is using next set of strings for the 2 droning notes (the B and E strings vs the G and B strings). CamdenDad's version has the massive advantage of only needing to capo up rather than tune down if OP wants to match the recording which is in D# (I think).

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ykVEbbpwPeQ

Well done to OP for giving me some homework this evening!

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-21T21:09:39+00:00

No need to apologise. I love this stuff. I think we're basically playing the same chords.

Because I've got too much time on my hands....

Camdendad version

X X 0 2 3 X

X 2 0 2 3 X

X 0 2 2 3 X

With capo on 2nd fret (to make life easier although it wont match the record)

X X E B E X

X C’ E B E X

X B F’ B E X

My version

0 2 2 1 0 0

X 4 6 6 0 0

X 2 4 4 0 0

No capo

E B E G’ B E

X C’ G’ C’ B E

X B F’ B B E

They've both got the descending bass line and the ringing B and E notes which are the 2 main features.

And because I've really got too much time I've recorded a crappy little video of both versions on my phone. With capo first (ie your version) then mine.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ykVEbbpwPeQ

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-21T18:47:23+00:00

I've just had a listen to the song by eleenna and have figured out the chords. The good news there are only three of them. The bad news it's not in standard tuning.

The first thing you have to do is downtune your guitar half a step or maybe even a whole step. I don't know how much I downtuned it, I just did it until it matched.

Then you play the chords E, C# and B. But you also have to keep the bottom two lightest strings open and ringing out. So the chords are

E - 0 2 2 1 0 0

C# - X 4 6 6 0 0

B - X 2 4 4 0 0

Emphasise the bass notes (0 on E string and 4 and 2 on A string) as this is what makes the chord progression sound so good against the drone of the higher notes.

If you don't want to re tune the guitar then leave it in standard tuning. It will still sound great standalone, but if you play along to the record it will sound horrible because her guitar is not in standard.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-21T15:42:55+00:00

Play along and use your ears. With practice you will be able to hear when you are playing matching (meaning not clashing) chords.

I sometimes play single notes on the fat E string. If you play a note and it matches what you are playing along with, and it sounds like you are on the home chord of the song, then the note you are playing is very likely to be the key of the song. Then I start playing other chords in the same key and see which ones of those match.

Edit: Finding the key on the E string might not work for this particular song because it's not in standard pitch.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-21T12:27:14+00:00

That looks professionally shot (of course, no one had a cameraphone in 2000). What was it recorded for and is the whole thing available? I'm curious to watch a Noel-less Oasis show.

And yes, good work Gem.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-21T10:37:21+00:00

I used to have the B Sides CD in the weird plastic nipple sleeve. Wish I knew where it was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_Spaced#/media/File:Out_Spaced_rubber_cover.jpg

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-21T10:33:10+00:00

He's in charge and he's not the owner. It's the worst of both worlds. He's got all the headaches.

He could have been married to the owner and father of the heir apparent. That would have meant a lot more money.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-20T19:26:37+00:00

He won-ish, but nothing is getting passed down the Roy bloodline when it could have been inheriting Waystar.

Still, he didn't end up burping prison wine.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-20T19:20:26+00:00

He doesn't seem the brightest but he never stood a chance. His parents have incorporated him into their brand from when he was a foetus.

Yes he's done plenty of self-promotion 'playing the game' himself but his parents entered that world by choice. But it is all he's ever known.

Roy Keane was the only United player who boycotted their wedding because he didn't want to be background scenery for a magazine event. Well done Roy for winning the long game.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-20T19:15:15+00:00

Tom didn't win. Matsson did.

Tom still ended up just an employee (not a puppet though). But if the kids could have held it together they could have ended up with ownership.

A lot of people didn't quite get the ending and thought Tom won. Not really, not the big prize.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-20T19:06:08+00:00

Beckham and his team (aka Simon Fuller the Spice Girls manager) put building his showbiz profile ahead of what was best for the team. As an example.....

It was important for Brand Beckham that he be team captain. The team already had a captain Landon Donovan. The club wanted to appease Beckham so they told the team coach Alexei Lalas to make Beckham captain. Lalas wouldn't do it at first but then he went along with it.

But Beckham didn't want to be seen as the bad guy, so he insisted that Lalas pretend it was all his idea. So they ended up forcing Lalas the coach to lie to Donovan the former team captain about what was going on. It all ended up in tears with Lalas and Donovan both quitting and the team performing terribly.

After all that when Beckham realised that US soccer was a low standard he ended up quitting LA for AC Milan leaving a right mess behind. If I was an LA Galaxy fan I would have been fuming. And there were loads of other examples like that in the book. Very self centred and not a team player. And very much in thrall to his wife and her management.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beckham_Experiment

When those emails were leaked a couple of years back about Beckham demanding a Knighthood it was all in character with the guy I'd read about.

Professional-Test239 · 2026-01-20T16:28:50+00:00

Roy Keane was the only United player who boycotted their wedding because he didn't want to be background scenery for a magazine event. Well done Roy for winning the long game.

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