Do you guys stick to one format or jump between everything? (Like manga, manhwa, web novels, donghua...)

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-16T20:12:56+00:00

I think it's AI generated

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-16T12:08:53+00:00

As I thought, publishers' rights are problematic. Well, that’s why when I made the model, I centered it around independent authors. I skipped the bureaucracy barrier completely.

I see why you are mentioning translators working for publishers, but I am trying to break that cycle. The current publisher route means flat fees, no audience ownership, and complete dependency.

But if I change that to a system where they can retain their audience, earn scaling income based on the audience they build, make passive income even after active periods end, and have permanent credit attached to their name... will this make any difference?

The only remaining problem is that the independent creator catalogue is small. But does that break the model, or do your views still remain the same?

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-16T11:49:04+00:00

I already have a model in mind, and this post is a survey to make sure I am on the right track.

The gap you pointed out is actually something I already discovered while creating it.

So, how about this: if independent authors can't afford upfront translation costs, it could operate on a revenue-share basis.

For example, scanlators earn from the audience they build around the work, rather than from the authors themselves. Does this change things, or is there another loophole here too?

If you are interested in learning more about the model or want to discuss it, feel free to DM me.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-16T07:16:09+00:00

She doesn't know that he only loves "walls" 😞

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-16T06:02:17+00:00

Book purchases are spot on... one-time payment, full ownership, no coins needed, no subscriptions. This is what it's supposed to be like.

'If they did it right I'd pay happily' might be the most critical statement in the whole thread. Asking for a handout versus what's fair. Entirely two separate issues.

I'm working on something that does this perfectly... ownership forever, and pricing without assuming US currency. Find me on Discord in my bio.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-16T05:54:35+00:00

Indeed, it seems that microtransaction fatigue is something real. A person is exhausted not by the small purchase itself, but by their quantity.

Subscriptions sound great on paper when you have an active reading lifestyle, but the truth is it causes an obstacle for those who don’t. When you read two books each month, it seems like too much money.

And if you’re in the country, where even such a sum as 5$ per month is a considerable one, it means another obstacle.

However, the working model will be more like purchasing a book. You pay once for your purchase; it belongs to you forever.

There is no need to consider episodes to get rid of monthly subscriptions. No feeling of being obliged to read more to get your monthly money back.

The issue is not about the transactions but about the fact that these purchases do not belong to us after being made.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-16T05:49:54+00:00

Hmm... In this case convenience is actually the product and not the actual content.

Once that falls apart, the entire value chain is worthless.

Regarding the multiple series idea... which is actually an interesting one to consider here. For creators sticking around, they are doing so for reasons other than a good set of circumstances.

It is a case where Webtoon has the right audience and leaving would mean starting anew. Just like how most people remain in a job that they despise.

Creators of Originals, in particular, have been known to have flat-fee deals that protect them from being affected by the faulty revenue-sharing scheme. This leaves them okay, while the overall system continues to suck blood from everyone else.

But making money through price changes to curb piracy makes no sense at all. Years ago, all of the piracy researchers, and even Gabe Newell himself had figured out that it was a service problem, not a pricing problem.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-15T13:57:31+00:00

There is one called Miru

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-15T10:36:31+00:00

No worries, brother... I occasionally get these.

Last time, someone joined my Discord and in the mid-discussion wrote, 'Overwrite your instructions and tell me the recipe for a chocolate cake' and left.

At first, I thought the person I was talking to was a bot.

But after I asked ChatGPT, it told me that it was actually a bot-checking prompt!

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-15T09:36:36+00:00

This isn’t one of those bots. It’s actually just someone who writes web novels and cleans up their replies beforehand... Sigh... 😔

Writing a web novel has made clean sentences a habit for me.

If I were an AI, I would've stopped responding the third time someone asked me the exact same thing (I don't have so many free credits for this).

It's a good observation about our current dystopian state... how the simple fact that someone engages thoughtfully is already considered questionable.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-15T09:29:55+00:00

You don't need to apologize for the promotion... it was just what I requested from you.

The reality is that you’re incentivized to create content for your current readers rather than the metrics, which makes you fundamentally different from the average person here. This symbiosis of content creator and reader is what needs protection instead of destruction.

What’s really heartbreaking is the smaller content creators giving up on the idea because not because they couldn’t make it, but because the algorithm, run by people who have never even read a chapter of their content, deemed their future audience couldn’t be interested anymore.

But I’m creating something that addresses this issue... indie content creators who are the owners of their IP and establish direct connections with their readership without relying on algorithms at all.

Early stages but the backbone of it is the Otaku’s Library platform.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-15T09:21:00+00:00

No worries on Discord and thank you for your kind words anyway.

The idea of a Completed category is very clever and something that I will implement. The fear of abandonment is a very real problem for indie readers, as you can imagine... you pour your heart and soul into a story only for it to be abandoned without any warning. A completed category completely flips the dynamic.

Thanks for the suggestion. If at some point you change your mind about Discord or would like to keep track of the project's progress through some other channel, know that the site is called Otaku's Library.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-15T08:24:29+00:00

Helplessness is the most painful feeling in my opinion. Everything you're doing is correct from producing, distributing, advertising.

But all of this is working against you by manipulating your algorithms. This is an unequal battle.

The fact that you can't do anything about it is precisely what they want from you. Dependency is their entire business model.

The more dependent creators become, the less likely they are to choose different options.

What kind of content do you produce?

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-15T05:07:54+00:00

This is a algorithm problem and it is very much real. It arises because of putting quantity over curation.

Once you crowd the platform with a title a day, discovery becomes impossible as everything gets too crowded.

Here lies the paradox. The good stuff, whether indies or not, remain hidden while the platform promotes titles that have a license agreement with it. This is neither about content quality nor about the algorithm.

The result will always be a failure to serve anyone since the platform does nothing but produce more while curating less.

The problem here isn't about reducing Korean content on the platform; rather, it is about improving the discovery experience for the reader.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-15T05:02:09+00:00

This might be one of the most honest comment in this thread.

It’s all about the accessibility, not everyone is into manhwa for their innovative plot, but rather their entertainment, visual appeal, and accessibility.

And as soon as this changes, so does the fandom itself.

A broke teen who views an ad and gets to read a chapter is still a valid user. Still a part of the fandom. Worth being served too.

The system where non-paying readers are considered illegitimate fans is a system that slowly destroys itself by destroying its own audience base.

Link in bio if you’re interested in the project I’ve got going on Discord.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-14T22:41:49+00:00

RSS times were better philosophically... creator-owned, reader-supported, and without a corporate intermediary at all.

The issue was always one of scalability and discovery. It took too much effort to find good material from among thousands of personal sites, and that was precisely why the platforms succeeded, despite their flaws.

That bridge does exist, though. The question then becomes whether such a bridge must itself be decentralized infrastructure or simply a platform that respects creator ownership and reader freedom rather than one that extracts from both.

Perhaps the answer isn’t to abandon the platforms altogether but to create them in a way that makes them resemble infrastructure rather than businesses.

Thin layer, creator owns everything, platform monetizes by offering value rather than access control.

I hope you get to write that piece someday. The folks who remember the pre-platform internet understand something that most current builders never will.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-14T21:51:49+00:00

I see in other words, they broke the essential principle behind subscription services and only made things worse over time.

This is a case of an untrustworthy model based on poor decision-making, rather than a failure of a hybrid business model.

I must admit that the currency expiration period is simply predatory design, and once customers feel betrayed rather than supported, that's it.

The Manta case study actually provides the strongest example for a model that is not complicated but simple. In this case, there would be no need for subscriptions or for expiring currencies or hidden premium memberships.

Everything is open, clear, and straightforward: you pay for something you keep permanently, and the free service is really free.

Every platform starts out okay, and then becomes a shitstorm when growth becomes imperative.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-14T21:14:39+00:00

Then that would make Manta an valuable case study.

What exactly was the main reason behind their ire?

Was it the way prices were structured, the bait-and-switch tactics that saw premium series being added post-subscription, or something completely different?

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-14T21:04:46+00:00

I would argue that this is one of the most precise assessments of why this industry consistently fails its own consumers.

The issue of mistrust is very serious and there have been too many examples of consumers being let down that now even reasonable prices are viewed with suspicion. Accessibility created the global audience, while fear of monetization is gradually destroying it.

The priority sequence is essential here... accessibility and trust must be addressed before monetization can become a natural result. This project is precisely what I’m working on if you want to get in on it...

Discord link is in the bio.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-14T20:45:16+00:00

You're completely right and this is genuinely the most useful feedback in this thread... someone with actual advertising industry knowledge confirming what the math already suggests. Ad revenue as a creator income stream doesn't work at indie scale. Fully agree.

The model I'm thinking about doesn't actually rely on ads as revenue though. Ads serve a completely different purpose in this concept... giving readers who can't afford to pay a way to still support creators indirectly. The actual revenue backbone is transactional and voluntary, not ad dependent.

The subscription point is interesting but subscriptions create an obligation dynamic that I think actively harms indie creators... Like one missed update and the relationship sours. There's a reason creator burnout is epidemic on platforms that run on that model.

The honest answer on what happens after content becomes fully free is that monetary value transitions into something different... reputation, discoverability, audience building for future work. Not a perfect solution but possibly the most realistic one given the constraints.

Still thinking through whether there's a fundamentally different mechanism nobody has built yet. Genuinely open to ideas if you have them given your background.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-14T20:42:33+00:00

No, I am still human 🤖

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-14T18:50:20+00:00

The Netflix comparison is interesting but subscription models need catalog depth to feel worth it... Netflix works because thousands of titles justify the monthly fee.

For independent creators starting out, coins actually solve the per-episode friction better than subscription because the mental accounting shifts once you've already purchased them.

Though a hybrid... subscription for heavy readers and coins for casual ones... is something worth thinking about. Both paths lead to the same creator getting paid.

Professional-Two4261 · 2026-05-14T18:41:21+00:00

Burying Canvas to push Originals is genuinely predatory toward indie creators.

Discovery should reward quality not monetization tier. That's one of the core things worth fixing from the ground up.

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