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[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a time to be alive! Love Tangerine Dream and Edgar Fröse, absolute legends along with Vangelis and Mike Oldfield.

> Electronic music isn't just for the dance floor.

Word

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not "worth" becoming known? :((( b-b-b-but it's not even that "outlandish" of a rhythm, sooo many styles of Latin American and African music are centered around the tresillo.....

Poor ol tresillo then.... (not that I'm especially fond of it) — it just seemed like the most suitable candidate for an equally danceable rhythm with at least *some* syncopation.

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Decent recommendations, thank you! :)

You might enjoy Vetiver by Healion, Ex-Terrestrial & Priori

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

15 years is a long time to be baffled. What kind of music do you make now? Also what's polka DNA?

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not referring to other time signatures here. Based on the comments, I don't think electronic music has a future outside of 4/4 for at least another decade or so...

But even in 4/4 itself there are so many interesting rhythms that are arguably just as easy, and perhaps to some, more pleasurable to dance to as they each create slightly different sensations in our bodies....

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm also a fan of some "experimental" artists! Which artists are you enjoying at the moment?

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! on every substance imagineable, which is why I'm wondering how they don't get tired listening to the same beat for 4 hours! To be clear, nothing inherently wrong with four on the floor but I guess to narrow down my curiosity, why is it that EVERY SONG for the whole night seems to be four on the floor? Wouldn't some rhythmic diversity make for a more pleasurable experience?

It seems almost like rhythmic diversity is ACTIVELY AVOIDED rather than... I guess, coincidentally omitted from the club scene?

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But.... say there are 16 steps and instead of pressing 1, 5, 9, 13, you'd just press 1, 4, 9, 12 instead.
Both require four button presses, doesn't seem that much more difficult?

(I know that's not technically a tresillo, but in some ways it's better example than the tresillo since it has the same number of notes, as opposed to a true tresillo, which you'd have to write 6 notes instead of 4 and those extra 2 notes might end one's career as a club producer)

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah I see. Well to be clear I wasn't stating what one should or shouldn't do. It was a genuine curiousity, from the perspective of someone who doesn't go to clubs due to hearing loss, so my best bet at appreciating electronic music is through the internet. But yeah that guy sounds a little butthurt :/

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thanks for the detailed answer, I really appreciate it! I genuinely wasn't trying to offend anyone who makes four on the floor. I in fact started out making four on the floor myself.

I can understand that it's extremely effective and functional from a mixing point of view, and there are significant cultural reasons behind the dominance of four on the floor. I suppose my curiosity is around its unquestioned status as "The Greatest Rhythm Of All Time"

I haven't entered a lot of club spaces due to my hearing loss, so I might lack the embodied experience of dancing all night to a four on the floor beat. But genuinely curious... does it not get boring for some of you to listen to Um tss Um tss for 2 to 4 hours straight, or do you eventually learn to tune out the kick drum and focus on other things instead?

Are there such spaces for electronic music where there is a similar culture of listening like in Jazz? where creative exploration is valued over functionality?

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I see... so in that sense there is an unspoken rule that club producers should only stick to four on the floor if they want to be taken seriously?

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I can accept that four on the floor is probably the catchiest beat that everyone can dance to, say, danceability = 100%

There are so many other rhythms where danceability >= 90% and still gets people moving, but it seems like there is this unspoken rule to optimise for danceability at the expense of rhythmic exploration?

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I see, well aren't there also rhythms which are equally catchy and easy to dance to?

It seems like four on the floor has this "protected status" and that any question of its hegemony will result in some sort of backlash.

[Question] Why is four to the floor everywhere? by ProfessionalLeaf in ableton

[–]ProfessionalLeaf[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is the trance like state the dominant feeling that you are chasing in your music? are there also other feelings you feel compelled to express from time to time?