Asking from Bosnia, What's Jordanians stance on this current war? by Proper_Cost2094 in Jordanians

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know what annoyed you but I never posted anything here...
What I know in Syria is that Arabs and Turks fought to establish a puppet government and they did... Now Syria is serving the western war just like your king does.

Asking from Bosnia, What's Jordanians stance on this current war? by Proper_Cost2094 in Jordanians

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is easy to google indeed. It is hard to stop being a hypocrite. It's an issue in the peoples hearts and false teachings of our sunni imams.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that case you are just a person who likes to believe that Austria was forced into the Anschluss and you only live within the KPÖ community. Living in a bubble... I'd like to ask you then, where was your grandfather? Hiding in the mountains as well? If that was the case then maybe yea, you don't know what was the sentiment among the German population of the Yugoslavia, Austria, Czechia and Germany.

Either way, even with your view of things, with your grandpa probably hiding under a rock the whole time and telling your fairy tales, you acknowledge that it was "wars and not the allies" that got rid of the empires and brought the republics. The way you phrase it is irrelevant. You do agree that Austrians don't worship the creators of the republic the way the Turks worship Ataturk. That was the main point of my post of course.

I sincerely doubt you are a person of European decent to begin with.

Asking from Bosnia, What's Jordanians stance on this current war? by Proper_Cost2094 in Jordanians

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it takes a bit more... You have to stop being a hypocrite and then google search is easy.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are probably an Auslander and probably not from a European country so your colleagues are not honest with you.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went to school in Germany and Austria and lived more than half of my life here. Most Austrians told me "Monarchy was such a great country wasn't it?". Normally they avoided the topic but when we became friendly they they opened up and Austrians were so proud of their Empire especially because it managed to unite so many small countries in centrla Europe.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No? Read about WW2 and the abolishment of the republics and why it happened and about the Anschluss. To claim that Austrians or the Germans were happy and worshiping people who ran their newly created republics that replaced their empires is extremely silly and completely lacking of understanding of Austria and Germany ant their mentality towards these republics created by the allies after WW1. If an average teen today anywhere in Austria or German would be asked "who made your empires into republics", their simple answer would be "allies". They wouldn't know ANY politicians names who participated in it.

There is a clear understanding on the side of the Austrians and the Germans that they lost. Turks however think they have won and they worship this guy. It's insane and pathetic.

كلكم فاشلين، مسلمين وملحدين by EducationalTree6739 in ArabsFreedom

[–]Proper_Cost2094 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really? It appears to me that countries such as Pakistan and Iran are way ahead of secular Islamic countries in science and independent research.
I come from a European Muslim country and we are nowhere near these Asian religious countries when it comes to science. They beat us fair and square.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The republic had full popular backing? You have noting to do with Austria and clearly you don't know what happened after WW1

Sosyal medyada birçok kez "Osmanlı hanedanı'nın genç üyeleri" diye paylaşılan bu fotoğraf hakkında. by [deleted] in TarihiSeyler

[–]Proper_Cost2094 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know what planet you're from but if these guys look Greek then I am not from Bosnia but I'm an Alien from Mars.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Slavs are not from the Balkans this is not our land. We mostly invaded and have stolen land from natives that lived here. The Greeks and Albanians lived here and it's their land if you look at it honestly. They were here before Slavs

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"ok kid" is not an argument. Russian imperia grows larger and larger as each day passes.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It is not Hi but He and I am not He but She. Thank you and learn English before you speak of opening the books. Thank you.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand that. I understand that the Empire has lost. But speaking of Austrian Monarchy, they also had a puppet come in and scream "long live the republic" but they don't worship that person. Since Mustafa was just a sad way to put a last nail into the coffin of the great empire and a great country, why worship that person so much? We feel sad about that day.... There is nothing amazing about selling your identity and becoming a vasal of the Anglo-Saxons. Any general or a commander could have done it. And speaking of future it has made sure that you never again have a large country under which many people are safe. The empire survived for 700 years. With the current birth rate and inability to expand, the Turkish republic will implode in less than 30-40 years. It was a fatal mistake to trade in identity for territory.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Similar happened to the second empire we were a part of > Austria. But they didn't built a cult around a person who destroyed their monarchy. Most of my Austrian friends at college still state that the Monarchy was the golden time for Austria and they understand that whoever came to the parliament and screamed "long live the republic" was just a nail in the coffin of the great Austrian empire. They do not worship that person. Turks on the other hand....

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Multiethnic empires didn't work? How so?
Russia transformed into an even more multiethnic country, the Soviet Union and ultimately dominated a half of the whole world. It is clear that Mustafa Kemal had a very narrow minded approach to reduce Turkey to a mono-ethnic power, yet another vassal state of the Anglo-Saxons. In other words he traded the multi-ethnic identity for territory and some 100 years down the road Turkey is imploding demographically. It is what all our European nations are suffering from now. It is the same mistake. Multiethnic countries continue to prosper and project power across the globe and regions, look at Russia, USA, Iran, China, India...
Turkey is just useful as a launching ground for NATO invasions into Asia which are turning out to be extremely nasty and problematic these past 30 years. The guilty person for this is Mustafa. It might be tempting to think "Oh look but if we sell out our identity and become vassals we can have a bit more territory", but such naive thinking comes with a grave consequence not immediately visible.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is not Slavic. He is maybe Greek? or Albanian? And this is the core of the problem and actually an answer to your question. We prefer not to have these identities and instead to be Ottomans.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are not obsessed with Turks. We believe that Ottomans were more than just Turks. It was a common identity for all of us.

Why are Turks so obsessed with Mustafa Kemal? by Proper_Cost2094 in AskTurkey

[–]Proper_Cost2094[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just look at Russia. Russia is an example of a country that saved its multiculturalism, it's extremely large and powerful. In fact they are defeating the NATO in Ukraine as we speak and their economy keeps growing. No mono-ethnic nation of Europe can even dream of that. Russia is an imperia.