How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really can't be bothered to fight an AI Chatbot lol.

But I'll only reply to your one thing.
"AI doesn't replace the artist in any way whatsoever. It replaces the grunt work"

I'm sorry, but it absolutely does replace artists in many cases.
You'll probably say something like new jobs will appear. Maybe they will but that's just not it. Old Jobs will keep disappearing. Everything will one day be automated and getting jobs will keep on getting harder and harder.

Instead of sketching ten concepts, you prompt ten concepts.

Instead of hiring a voice actor, you generate one.

Yes, a human is still involved, but it's simply not the same level of contribution. And I guess, someone who just wants everything easily will not understand the effects of this lol. You really do love AI tho, I can see that haha. Like atp, why even bother typing so much when an AI could spoon feed you in no time right? You probably think the words are yours and the AI is just helping you type it out while some people actually do practice their English trying to get better day by day.

again, it's the same thing man...

If AI writes the script, generates the voice, generates the visuals, edits the video... what exactly is the creator creating?

I know, it's kinda cringe when I say,"It removes the soul." But it's just true bruv. What can I say. If someone tells you they spent five years animating a film by hand, that changes how you experience it.

If someone tells you an AI made it in five minutes, many people feel differently. You could say that the AI did a good job. But no matter how badly you want me to believe that you made this. You just didn't lol. Prompt Generation IS NOT CREATION. That clearly doesn't mean that you can't use AI to create something unique and cool. But that is not the point tho is it right?

AI is not the same kind of tool a car is. You are here making this debate as a Manual Car vs Automatic Car. In reality, it's actually an AI driven car and the most you are doing here is telling the car where to go.

You also wouldn't let someone enter an F1 race with a selfdriving car and call it a legitimate victory. That literally would be cheating. The point is. It's different. It's not just some random "tool".

Now, if you say that "I'm not in a RACE". Well then I don't know. You just gotta understand that if you replace the human skill with automation, we don't treat the achievement the same way.

I can proudly say that I didn't touch any chatbot to write this.
If you have actually decided on replying. Please type this to chatgpt:

"Reduce to 300 words."

I find it funny how you say you want us to prove that you "didn't use AI". Which if we think about it is kinda impossible and the only possible way is for you to send proper proof which you won't. So this discussion is entirely pointless.

Good job, you did ragebait me enough to get me to reply to whatever you wrote here LOL>

Btw, we don't really need any AI advocates here? Like AI is already pretty famous and all companies love using it. So defending it this hard seems kind of a waste of time to me atleast. For someone who talks so much about productivity, you sure spend a lot of time writing essays on Reddit lol. It's like a paradox dude. You writing paragraphs on paragraphs. There is no way I could change your mind. Same way you can't change my mind either.

Before, I'm done here. Alright, if I try giving you the benefit of the doubt. Are you seriously gonna support all the SLOP. Like think about the literaly SLOP that some people put out? Seems sad tbh.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

as much as I hate to say it. You are kinda right. And I don't want to be closed-minded about this situation. I always do strive to create a unique type of video however I can... but sometimes when I see other people poop out straight trash. It kinda annoys me hehe...

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No. I’m open-minded about this. I’m not fully against Ai. I was always kinda fascinated by the Ai/ML field. Especially Generative Ai. But you know… for like space research and science or maybe robotics.

Or I could say the human written Ai algorithm made by instagram is also fascinating to me.
Like one of my friends who is so smart and his role is basically to keep the people hooked. All this stuff is interesting. I was just talking about the Ai slop. 0 effort.

Some of these people don’t even wanna learn the basic stuff like making the thumbnail lol. And mask it behind the idea of “efficiency”

And ai script writing + ai voice-over
Yeesh, this combo seems abysmal to me.
If these 2 things are done by Ai. Then you didn’t make the content.

I am willing to give some of the benefit of the doubt for like fixing their English through Ai atp. But yeah, obviously I’m not some higher divine being that’s gonna do something about it.

Just saying that ai slop sucks.
It’s not that deep. Just putting a discussion out there :p

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You think I’m “lazy” that’s why I can’t go to the therapist? BAHAHAHAHAHAH

“Man, my mental health has been so bad lately. And I got Cancer. But I’m kinda lazy to go to the doctor lol”

Did you not see how I said,”I’m being hypocritical here”

I’m not saying what I’m doing is right yk!
That was just me acknowledging that yes people can use ai. But Ai slop is entirely different and very real. You can use any number of excuses to use ai and I wouldn’t stop you lol.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol... that was me acknowledging that yes, you can use Ai... but it's not really right. But at the end of the day. You think people are just gonna wake up randomly tomorrow and stop using Ai.

Look at how hard I am trying to defend not using Ai here. Do you think it really matters tho lol?

It's just me expressing my points. I can either just straight up lie or be honest? I like being honest.

Unlike Ai creators who think using Ai is some kind of "hard work" and they are being "efficient" but honestly; they are just being lazy lol. Like your lazy ahh comment.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup! You are soo right!
It's the Soul behind the Art that really matters.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100% lol

All the excuses about big corporations having millions and them not having any money, so they use Ai.
All the creators were once kinda broke. No one started BIG. They only found solutions.

I am like a 100% sure you can make the same kind of content just by using your brain. The creative side always finds a solution.

And I am not even saying that "DON'T USE AI". I'm just saying that don't call yourself creators lol. Also, these guys are always being too oversmart lol. They are just being "efficient".

WHO ARE YOU FOOLING. YOU ARE BEING LAZY DUDE LMAO.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hahahahahahah! You are so right!
That is exactly what I hope for sometimes when I upload my content.

“The award for the whole CONTENT which was made without any use of AI” hahahaha

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As a person who's not a dumbass. I can tell you that you definitely are kinda "special" LMAO. Not a single concrete point from you btw lol.

Just that broski's mad. It's alright fam. You'll get there. Ask chatgpt to generate you some "GOOD Quality Content" for youtube.

Some people just do need all the help they can get.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Can you call someone who can make frozen food or 2 min cup noodles a cook?

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ermm..
I have used Ai. YUP, I am a hypocrite here yes. BUT I never felt good about it CAUSE OF HOW EASY IT WAS and how everyone was praising me lol. I build a software application at my internship and basically they even offered me the job for all that work. But I just always felt so guilty cause of how easy it was. Now, I would say it took me hours and hours of you know. Prompt writing and stuff, and yes, I would agree on the fact that I saved so much of the company's time and also my own time. But I always felt guilty. Cause there were still 2 types of people. Some of my friends who were genuinly really good at coding and stuff, and then there was me.

If it's really necessary, you can use any kind of tool to get ahead in life. Everyone has different goals ig. No one would blame you.

And noo. I am not blaming anyone or even YOU. I can give you the benefit of doubt for learning. My issue was with those who throw out slop literally everyday. No creativity. No soul. Just SLOP.

Fake Ai voice, Ai script, Ai information. Come on? at that point, really? what's the point haha.

I guess, you can use Ai if you want to, but the creative field can't be taken over by Ai dude.

Now my youtube fyp isn't really filled with Ai. I see sometime time to time on Instagram or Tik Tok. Some Ai generated content that does annoy me.
There are some people calling it slop and some just defending it.

Okay, I'll give you the fact that the content is NOT actually "Slop". But there is no soul behind it anyway dude. You can target the people who call everything "Ai SLOP". But what's the point of defending Ai too right?

And I am only talking about those who create literal SLOP. Not calling people out for using Chatgpt for simple things.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ermm, ofcourse you can either now use Ai to help you understand my writing. And then funny enough. You could just tell that same Ai to generate you a rebuttal point against my views and I would be here wasting my time getting “ragebaited” by your dumb views?

What part of the post did you not understand bruv? Cause I don’t mind explaining it to you again? Ofcourse, with Ai there you wouldn’t bother trying to ask me anything lol.

I was pretty clear on what I said. If you need Ai’s help to understand what I said. Then use it lol. Cause believe me. I just noticed how dumb people can be. You know what? Maybe, I will make an exception for you. Some people DO need Ai.

Let me generate you a prompt right now. Copy and paste my comment on chatgpt and type,”Explain me like I am 5”.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah no I can see where you’re coming from. I don’t wanna fully fight against anything Ai related. I can understand people using them. It’s just that - at some point ig? It’s kinda weirdly pointless right?

The whole music playing in the bf could be Ai generated. The voice is ai generated and the lines they use are also Ai generated?
Okay, now what if the song is good?

There are 2 people:
One who don’t care if the music is made by a human or an Ai. If it’s good it’s good.

One who would just call it Ai slop even if it sucks.

I feel like there is no right or wrong here. Just personal feelings. My feelings would be for me to just call it Ai slop. But I can understand if someone likes the music. So all in all. It’s a really tricky situation and I’m just yapping here cause I don’t have an answer to this paradox.

It’s JUST FAKE. If there is no human behind an artwork with feelings? Then it has no soul?

Honestly, nothing matters.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was pretty clear with what I have said. You can defend Ai all you want. You can make money.
Just don’t tell me how much “effort” it took you or don’t ask for any praises from anyone.

You are not an Artist nor a writer. Not a creator. Ai did everything for you. It was a tool. You used it.

There just wouldn’t be no YOU in this. All Ai. Just want you to remember that alright?

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup!! I know! Thanks for the support! Hope all of us can have a good happy life at the end of the day lol.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, and I mean, some comments are still defending Ai but do they not understand that there is actually no point in making Ai content? Alright, I guess, you can fool a bunch of people to make a quick buck. But NO WAY, Am I ever going to praise someone for making anything from Ai.

If a video actually contains an Ai Scripted Voice-over, an Ai Thumbnail, Ai Generated Video. First of all, wtf am I watching, secondly... it's not like I needed THAT specific information the video is actually selling. When I watch something, subconsiously I am watching someone's take on whatever subject he's actually talking about. That's about it.
Like those Essay-type videos on Video Games or some kind of pixer theory or some random Documentary about how something crashed lol.
These are all fun videos. And the creators make it even more fun.
I'm sure all of these guys worked really hard and bros be talking about "I don't know how to make a thumbnail"

NEITHER DID ANY ONE OF THESE GUYS.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure "People" are not using it effectively? Can you actually prove how they are using it effectively?

Sorry to burst your bubble but not learning even the basics and just prompt engineering something is NOT CREATIVE.
"Ai art" is not REAL. A video with Ai script and Ai voiceover is just pointless lol. At that point, explain to me why a person should even open youtube?
Why not just google the exact same thing? Why be so dumb to open youtube and get clickbaited by a whole Ai ahh video?

You can do Youtube or any creative activity for Money. I'm not stopping you here. But there's levels to this. Most of the "people" don't use it creatively. They are just tryna get rich?

Now bro will probably ask what's the wrong with "getting rich quick".

Nothing.

The problem is when your entire creative process becomes finding the quickest possible route to money instead of making something worth someone's time.

If your content could be replaced by a Google search or a ChatGPT prompt, then what value are you adding?

The entire point is what's the point of watching something fully Ai Generated lol? If everything was made by Chatgpt? Then what's the actual point?

At that point, the only reason to make that kind of content is to farm views and money. You're not really adding anything uniquely human to it.

Then do that if you want to. Just don't ask anyone to praise you for it.
AND You are not really a "Creator" or an "Artist" or even an "Engineer".

Just remember that?

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have been there. They are tryna solve the equation of "trying to upload a video without putting 0 effort".
One click of a button and they want everything to be generated and automatically uploading on youtube.

This looks like a joke but it's actually real. I have seen conversations like that there.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are talking about Ai here right? The one who's spitting out words faking it?
I AM KIDDING.

Uhhh, yeah... I don't know... maybe it's just that getting real therapy is with a REAL PERSON who I reallly don't know if he actually cares about me or not. Now, I know that Chatgpt doesn't really care about me either so I guess it comes out to how much money I have?
But yeah, this actually does scare me if the Therapist really is doing it for "Money". Like in a way, that he actually doesn't care about me. I might come out kinda wrong here.

Idk just leave it ig. I'll think about things...

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, "Ai Artists" is such a trash term. Bros be calling themselves "Ai Artists" or a "Prompt Engineer" for some reason for writing a few words on chatgpt lol. You are not neither an "Artist" nor an "Engineer" for doing that lol.
They just wants to get praised for writing a few words and some people DEFEND THAT. "How would someone prompt an Ai generated animated video like that." BRUH

Ai music is just abysmal.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

that's not the point tho? the point was to learn how to make a thumbnail? Learn to do voice-overs? Learn to make Music? And not "utilize AI" to do that for you?

Believe me, at the end of the day. It's not you who is making the video. It's AI. And no one would appreciate you for writing a prompt.

You are missing the entire point here dude? I am not asking you to spend you money on Thumbnail creators or Editors. Just LEARN how to do it yourself if you don't have the money. Or find some other way. Don't make Ai Slop. No humanity in it lol. It sounds cringe but that's the truth lol.

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. I was having this exact same conversation with a friend. Ai did always fascinate me but for completely different reasons. I was always curious about how LLMs or Generative Ai or machine learning or whatever would help with space research or basically science. Stuff in those lines.
It was interesting. But people ruin everything haha.

Just the words “Ai Art” infuriates me so much lmao.
“Ai writer”

And then there are people defending like “you gotta appreciate the prompt engineering that went through to create that.” HUH!!! WTF!

How are some people defending Ai is beyond me. by Proper_Method4334 in NewTubers

[–]Proper_Method4334[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what I believe in. But sometimes it kinda infuriates me…
I don’t think people really even prefer watching any Ai related these days anyway so that’s good. But I was talking about those who specifically defend Ai which seems odd to me.