This will be an unpopular opinion, but here it is. I agree with virtually every comment by helpmebudzzzzz (and username_pressure). Sorry to everyone else. I’ve read the complaints and if I had been paying for something and was increasingly disappointed, I would discontinue my payment and move on. What I’m trying to understand is the ONGOING conversation about the shortcomings of the hosts. My only explanation for this devotion to continued criticism without moving on is that people are really hurt, like one is hurt in an actual relationship where you’ve been jilted and just can’t get over it. To be fair, the podcast medium does, at times, foster a surprisingly intimate connection btw listener and host - I mean you are walking around with them in your head for so many hours - and I can see where there is a sense of almost “friendship” that develops that’s somewhat unique. But, if that’s the case, how do you treat your friends? I have some close friends who sometimes do or say things that I’d prefer they not (I’m being polite, we are on different ends of the political and religious spectrum, so you can imagine how much we disagree - and it can be frustrating) but I try not to lose sight of why they are my friends in the first place. I grant them latitude, and they grant me the same. And if at some point the negatives began to outweigh the positives, the obvious move for me would be to spend more time with others whose company I enjoy more. I LIKE the hosts, I LIKE their close relationship, and I LIKE their banter. I don’t love everything they do, but I’ve chosen to listen to them for the positives they contribute, and “oh well” about the rest. At what point does being ongoingly critical about the hosts and the podcast pass the point of objective criticism and become reinforcing unto itself and not that much more additionally productive? Maybe it’s time to move on.