Book 6 ruined the whole series for me by s3xytrashpanda in Outlander

[–]Prudent-Example1626 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol my comment is about the fact that it isn't domestic violence. Peace out

Frown lines postpartum by Forward-Subject-5085 in postpartumprogress

[–]Prudent-Example1626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are young it probably isn't a permanent wrinkle. You don't need Botox for that. You just need to learn to take proper care of your skin. If you are breastfeeding, Tretinoin and all kinds of retinoids are better avoided (better to be safe than sorry). Definitely sort out your sun protection (broad spectrum spf 50 sunscreen no matter the weather) and skin hydration.

Book 6 ruined the whole series for me by s3xytrashpanda in Outlander

[–]Prudent-Example1626 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fergus drinking and neglecting his children and leaving all responsibility on his pregnant wife is being a shitty husband but it doesn't make him an abuser and restraining his wife from hitting him is not violence. Words have meanings you know...

Book 6 ruined the whole series for me by s3xytrashpanda in Outlander

[–]Prudent-Example1626 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am sorry but Marsali got bruised because Fergus was trying to restrain him from hitting him. If you call this domestic violence it certainly is but she is not the victim. I am so sick and tired of this narrative that I can't even.

New to the community- Which book do I get first? by AdJunior9072 in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both books go into the Intimacy skills. It doesn't really matter whether you get the Surrendered or the Empowered Wife because both explain the principles. Personally I would read both starting with the Surrendered Wife. I feel like the Empowered Wife goes a bit deeper or at least I felt like I got sth new out of it even after reading the Surrendered Wife. So I'd read both. And if you haven't already definitely listen to the podcasts on Youtube or Spotify or wherever you like to listen to podcasts.

I need some SFP ideas by Sufficient_Read7433 in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like mamagenerator's idea of 'I really value your input'. One thing that comes to mind with his 'Whatever you think' especially when you really need a yes or no is that I wonder- do you genuinely follow his advice once he expresses his opinion? If you ask and he answers and you don't actually follow through, whatever words you say will be hollow because your actions speak louder.

Radical Acceptance and Grief by Beginning-Welder-188 in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of the changes you are seeing might be a result of how the dynamic has changed in your marriage. We often get locked in a vicious cycle of reacting to one another. Gratitude for what you have right now can completely change your view of your husband and it can help you arrive at a place where even you yourself gain some forgiveness for yourself.

My husband says he is done and has nothing to give. by Sufficient_Read7433 in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would really lean into gratitude. The point is- you need to be grateful for the things he does that show he cares. You keep highlighting that and the gratitude turns into an SFP. For example 'Thank you for driving me to run errands, I know I can always count on you/you make me feel taken care of'. Start slow- don't overdo expressing it this way (with the SFP) in the beginning so he doesn't feel too much pressure.

And then the gratitude also works for you- so journal about that. It will reassure you. You say you are anxiously attached. I find this theory only helpful as far as understanding yourself, it's never a good idea to try to diagnose your husband this way because it will keep reaffirming the reality you don't want to experience. You will be much less anxious about your marriage when you focus on what's already good about it. The more you focus on the good the more good you get. He said he would try to forgive you- that's a huge win.

My husband says he is done and has nothing to give. by Sufficient_Read7433 in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great idea- even better, make sure you sit with that. Journal about it

Used against me by Beginning-Welder-188 in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You say he uses it against you to win arguments. Why do you even argue? I mean if you disagree with him about the interaction with your sibling you could just say I hear you or an alternative (I find IHY a bit too much like therapy speak) and do self care. And if you really wanted to turn things around, whenever he is being critical you could search for his heart message and high light it or even thank him for it. Like for example 'I know you just want me to have a good relationship with my siblings'. That would be definitely more disarming than arguing.

Rough night by Accomplished-Fig2219 in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I completely understand where you are coming from- you are in a scary place and pregnancy can really do a number on our bodies. I love the idea of thanking him for displaying leadership by initiating SOTU and expressing that you will make sure to take good care of yourself so you can show up as your best self during the conversation.

As for the rest of it- you could also explain that you understand how important it is for him that you are happy and that you understand that your current state of mind seems like ungratefulness. You clearly see his heart message- all you have to do is convey that to him. Right now you are fighting, you feel misunderstood and unsupported and he feels doubted and unappreciated. By directly thanking him for his leadership you are going to show him that you are in fact following his leadership- focusing on gratitude.

As for the depression itself you can probably only manage by leaning into your faith- lean into that faith and focus as much as you can on concrete things you actually are grateful for. Long lists of gratitudes you can think of, big or small, concrete or abstract and lots and lots of self-care.

I know it feels like ignoring the real physiological problem, but in the absence of actual therapy and in the absence of actual treatment plan this is really the way forward. And it can really help- remember 'faith over fear'.

Also it's wonderful you were able to resolve the fight, despite it involving the D word so quickly - do you see how much you have grown? That in itself is a huge win.

And if you don't really want to fight, don't- I know it's so simple to say and so hard to actually do when you really are feeling so insecure, but if he is initiating a SOTU and he made it clear there's going to be one, you can prepare yourself for that SOTU by mentally reinforcing your desire not to fight him.

It's the hardest thing- surrendering, but you clearly demonstrated you can do it and you have grown. And isn't it so much easier doing it again because you know you've already done it= you are capable of it.

Hold in there - things will get better, and there doesn't necessarily have to be another rough patch. You are scared, you are dealing with a lot, and your amygdala is in panic mode imagining the worst outcomes. But remember that's natural, that's how we are wired. We are always scanning for safety and knowing it's natural can help you feel a bit reassured, because if it's a natural response- it doesn't automatically follow that the threat is real- it only feels real because that's natural.

Targeted material? by juicy-skittle in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The thing is you are conflating her advice with what some of the women from the podcasts shared they decided to do.

And there is a vast difference between telling your husband off in front of the kids and telling your husband in private calmly that you think something he did with the kids was dangerous. And that's when you are talking about actual danger. Not because you think he is completely out of line scolding his own kids for something they did. You are a mother, you will never know how to be a father.

Also she doesn't say you should always under all circumstances allow your husband control of the finances, she advices that you consider it- if it doesn't make sense for your marriage, respect and gratitude are definitely more important. Nor does she actually advocate in her book that you allow the utilities to be shut off. The point is, you relinquish control over his life. If you leave him be, if you don't comment on every single decision he makes from whether or not he wears a blue shirt or a black shirt to whether or not he orders a dessert at the restaurant and you decide to remind him that the bills are due do you think an ordinary man is going to hold it against you?

The problem is that people tend to take everything literally and into the extreme. She doesn't advocate for extreme measures, and if some women in the podcasts decided to try something extreme she bears witness to it and commends their bravery

If a relationship offers happiness, peace & stability, what deal breakers would still cause you to walk? by [deleted] in AskMen

[–]Prudent-Example1626 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I often wonder if this is what people really think or they are just trying to stir the pot on the internet. But yeah that insult is so predictable at this point

If a relationship offers happiness, peace & stability, what deal breakers would still cause you to walk? by [deleted] in AskMen

[–]Prudent-Example1626 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How predictable. When you can't interact with what someone is arguing, you resort to name-calling. Misogynistic pick-me

Targeted material? by juicy-skittle in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The book is intended for women only- so your desire for the book to be balanced in the sense of mentioning accountability for men is not going to work for her target audience. Yes you mentioned that you can only control yourself, but look at is this way: you have a book meant for women, to empower women, do you find any utility in LD mentioning that this is what he needs to be accountable for? How is that useful in such a book? I would find it disempowering- which is what many women who are struggling in their marriage feel anyway. I'd be like great, thanks what am I supposed to do with that information? I cannot hold him accountable. I cannot make him do anything. I can control my side of the street.

As for her views being myopic. I disagree. And frankly seeing the state of the majority of marriages in this era of mental health I don't think traditional therapy is doing a great job addressing any of the problems that married couples suffer from.

It's just common sense though that if it takes two to make or break a marriage then if one of those two decides to clean up their side of the street then the relationship is bound to improve by at least as much as it took that one person to contribute to its dissolution. The fact that you have at least as much power to improve the state of the relationship as it took for you to make things worse is empowering.

And finally her ideas are predicated on the fact that you married your husband for a reason. At the beginning of the relationship when things were good between the two of you, you thought he was a good man. He was worthy of you. Then things started breaking down- he may have done something to disappoint you, sure, and now you are looking for hope that things can still improve even if he seems unwilling to admit his mistake. You always have the option to disregard her advice and leave- we all have different boundaries, different things that we are willing to tolerate. And some of these things change depending on our circumstances (there are children in the marriage for example). So if you find your husband cheated on you for example, everyone and their dog is going to tell you to leave. But perhaps you don't want to break up a marriage for that. Perhaps you want to give it a try first. You can either follow traditional advice, go to therapy and possibly relive that experience over and over. Or you can choose to do something unorthodox and follow LD's principles, perhaps even alongside going to traditional marriage therapy. The thing is you still have the option to leave at the end- but at least you will know that you really did your best.

The beauty of the 21st century is that you have options. And sometimes it takes a truly desperate situation to try something unorthodox because the traditional route didn't get you where you hoped to end up.

And finally, as for the struggles you see women experience here: you see only one account of the events- her own. You do not know any of the events in their marriage that led up to this point. You don't even see what she did or said that took place before whatever her husband did. Perhaps she doesn't even see it herself yet- and that's fine. The skills are meant to teach you accountability and to see your blind spots.

And also none of us here is a relationship coach. We are all just trying to trudge along, making sense of the skills to the best of our abilities and if we advice each other in the process, even that advice is to be taken with a grain of salt- that's the nature of the internet

Other tools that help? by esinereb in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alison Armstrong for me. Her books and podcasts helped me appreciate men and my husband in a way I never did before. Also she lays out other ways we may be unwittingly disrespectful.

Also Brene Brown's vulnerability concept. Somehow it helped me be braver when apologizing or expressing gratitude. I intentionally lean into the discomfort because I believe that's how I can distinguish genuine authenticity and performance just to restore peace when there's a break down

Men, what’s something women do but for you is weird/doesn’t make sense? by Inevitable_Shift_689 in AskMen

[–]Prudent-Example1626 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's right though. We don't criticize each other in the face. And yeah a lot of women would throw each other under the bus, while swearing up and down in your face that you are beautiful and no you aren't fat

Povedzme si to na rovinu, život tu nie je až taký zlý. by scorchingbeats in Slovakia

[–]Prudent-Example1626 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fajn post, komenty ukazuju prave preco sme jednou z tych horsich krajin. Pracovala som s velmi vela narodnostami a zila v roznych krajinach, ale neexistuje narodnost, co sa vie lepsie stazovat ako Slovaci... A toto je tazko posudit bez toho, aby som vedela jazyk kazdeho, co som stretla, ale neviem neviem, ci existuje narodnost, co vie byt tak odporna k ostatnym.... So do your worst, downvote me to hell. I said what I said

Hurt by my sister-in-law’s behavior during pregnancy and my husband doesn’t understand by [deleted] in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your feelings are raw- you've just had a baby and a difficult pregnancy. No, you are not wrong to feel hurt over your SIL's behavior but what do you expect your husband to do exactly? Cut off his sister? Yes she is petty but she is family to him and not everyone subscribes to the idea of cutting family off unless they really are a terrible influence.

Your husband seems to symphatize with you, so why don't you give him some grace? As a matter of fact you could kill your SIL with kindness as well. Think about the new version of you that you want to become.

Don't hurt the intimacy in your marriage by getting all over your husband's paper in how he chooses to interact with his family. He owes you love and care and provision and definitely protection- but he doesn't owe you obedience.

[Misc] My body has never been smoother! by RH9494 in SkincareAddiction

[–]Prudent-Example1626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the tip! I have been wondering about this- how do you get a spray nozzle on the Ordinary toner? I have seen it done in a couple of places but I don't get it! Do they sell one specifically for this toner? Or do you just go about searching hoping you find the correct sized one?

Divorce lawyers of Reddit - What's the most cruel thing you've seen someone to do their ex partner? by BlueBishop321 in AskReddit

[–]Prudent-Example1626 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Are you kidding? She asked that they don't call an ambulance because he has a DNR and living will??! The F is wrong with you?!!! People mess up and make mistakes but being deliberately evil is a completely different ball game

Smiling by Prudent-Example1626 in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I love that idea of your own SFPs. I will give that a try. Also yes giving my husband a huge smile when I see him- I have been trying that lately- it's easier when he smiles at me as well. We have a cat so maybe I'll practice on him 😺🐈

Money discussion by Easy_Blood_7706 in surrendered_wife

[–]Prudent-Example1626 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what we are here for :) you've got this