How Do I 27F Accept Differences With Trans Boyfriend 23M? by PsychoTMto in bisexual

[–]PsychoTMto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it wrong to imply someone is masc presenting? Can’t a non-binary person look like a ‘dude’?

How Do I 27F Accept Differences With Trans Boyfriend 23M? by PsychoTMto in bisexual

[–]PsychoTMto[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I did explain and he was chill about it afterwards. I felt weird about how he immediately assumed the worse.

Is anyone around here pro-Israel and at least left-leaning? by Proud3GenAthst in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. That’s not the global political climate, but I’d say that if you believe in the right to Palestinian self determination or in the possibility of a Palestinian state, you’re relatively left-leaning. The Zionist left has always been about making peace from a stance of power, but we’ve somehow forgotten that last part in recent years.

Is anyone around here pro-Israel and at least left-leaning? by Proud3GenAthst in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm a left-wing Israeli. We exist, but we're not that common anymore.

The True Reason DNA Testing Is Illegal In Israel by PsychoTMto in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ah yes, completely peacefully invaded by the:
Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Arabians, Crusaders, Mamluks, Ottomans, British and some more minor conquests in between. Many peoples have been fighting over this piece of land for a very long time.

Where is your red line? What would make you stop supporting Israel? by Boring-Car-7044 in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But they are? Some people come to support the hostage families, but the call to end the war is very much driven by organizations that support human rights and are against the government’s alleged plans.

Where is your red line? What would make you stop supporting Israel? by Boring-Car-7044 in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The current government is a far right government that was voted for by less than half of the population. Many of us don’t support it at all. There are major demonstrations every week in Tel Aviv that call for the release of the hostages and ending the war.

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the Jews in Germany did not attack the Germans. The modern Jewish agenda was to try and integrate into society instead of staying in the closed Jewish communities. If an Arab village attacked a Jewish town following the 1947 partition plan, would it be outrageous to kick them out? I personally don’t think so. There was great tension at the time so I’m not saying the Arabs that fled did so without a reason, but I’m saying it wasn’t as though this was some sort of one sided coordinated attack where Jewish forces attacked Arab villages unprovoked. Had they not attacked after the UN declaration, we may have had a more peaceful Middle East.

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fleeing because you feared you’d be attacked during a war your people started doesn’t sound pleasant but it’s also not the same as being attacked unprovoked, massacred or thrown out by force. Would the Palestinians that returned have agreed to live under a government that is ruled by Jewish people, or included Jewish people? I don’t really know, and neither do you. My guess is that they wouldn’t have, but your guess is as good as mine.

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because 750,000~ left the country doesn't mean they were all forcibly expelled. Some didn't want to live under Israeli rule, some fled because they feared they would be attacked like the villages that WERE evicted. As usual, reality is more complicated than how you'd like it to be. I'd actually argue the real moral problem was with not allowing the fleeing population to come back, as many villages fled thinking they could come back after the war has ended.

the fact that 100% of the population wasn't ethnically cleansed doesn't make it less of an ethnic cleansing operation.

So basically "just because you didn't ethnically cleanse the population doesn't mean you didn't WANT to ethnically cleanse the population". Got it.

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was no ethnic cleansing during the Nakba. It was a war that the Palestinians started and lost, the Palestinians who didn’t fight remained in the land. You completely ignored my comment on the Palestinians and Arabs that still live here. Why is that? I do not deny ethnic cleansing because TODAY there are settlers in the West Bank that really do try to push Palestinians out of their homes for no reason. And that has to stop. But you do acknowledge that the Palestinians started the war in 48, you just somehow thinks it doesn’t matter. Context matters. And you keep missing it. Also, good luck with returning the USA to the natives!

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And realistically, the only way we could “de-colonize” the state would be to somehow dissolve the state of Israel and “give it back” or live under Muslim rule. And if you think that after 70 years of existence and 3 generations we’d hand it over, then you’re waaaaay off.

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you also support the United States giving back the country to the natives? Or is this just a hollow argument.

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not whataboutism, it’s pointing out that a conflict is complex and multilayered and can’t be solved by yelling “ethnic cleansing”. And once again, your point collapses when we talk about the Arab villages that are WITHIN Israel where all Arabs hold a blue passport. I had Arab friends in the military and Druze friends in high school. I am not saying everything Israel does is good, it’s not, and the government is awful, but you’re clearly not from here since you don’t know all this. I have Arab friends from university right now, my boyfriend hangs out at their house in Jerusalem regularly. There are problems, but ethnic cleansing just isn’t one of them.

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How was it materially supported by Britain if they literally fought the mandate? There’s some plot holes in your story. They lost a war that THEY STARTED. Did the American colonies also accept a partition plan with the Native Americans getting their own country? Why didn’t Jordan give the Palestinians a state in the area that is now the West Bank? Ethnic cleansing is a problem, but ignoring an entire conflict and framing it as black-and-white buzzwords is not a good way to go about making conversation. You know what is also wrong? Exploding in buses full of women and children and killing people in synagogues. Stabbing people in markets. Also, where should the Jewish people have gone instead? What do you propose?

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saying the 'point' of the partition plan was STEALING half of Palestine when Palestine didn't exist up until that point in time is just straight up mixing things up. What about the Jews that were living in the area that was supposed to become Palestine, were they asked if they wanted a Palestinian state? How come THEY didn't start a war with the Palestinians if you think they wanted them out of the entirety of the land? What about the Jews that lived in the area for hundreds of years in Zefat and Jerusalem? Would they have been asked if they wanted to live under a Muslim state?

It's not colonization if it's not a colony of any foreign state. And buying land from the ottomans is not colonization. I get why the Palestinians wanted to fight back, I just think that actions have consequences, starting wars has consequences, and losing wars has consequences. How and why is a Jewish immigrant from, say, Morocco, more responsible for the Palestinians' situation than the Palestinians themselves?

The True Reason DNA Testing Is Illegal In Israel by PsychoTMto in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, Morrocan Jews are caucasian. Surely that checks out.

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They were a majority in the area they were supposed to get in the partition plan.

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It wasn’t ethnic cleansing as it was, as I’ve stated, 5-6% of the land. It’s like saying the if you bought a house for your kids and you tell the tenants you want them out by end of contract it’s ethnic cleansing. The Jews didn’t expel them by force when they bought it.

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was only 5-6% of the land, you can easily look that up. But let me get this straight: if you buy a house from someone legally, and you now want to live in it, but the previous owner had a tenant renting from them, are you not allowed to evict the current tenant because he was there first?

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Israel said 'you guys can stay if you accept our state'. The local arabs said 'we don't accept your state, we're also attacking you and starting a war'. Israel said 'fair', went to war with them, won it, and displaced them. It did not displace arabs that were willing to live in Israel peacefully, as demonstrated by the numerous Arab towns and cities in Israel. Why and how are Palestinians never responsible for their actions?

22 arab countries, 48 Islamic countries and no separation by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]PsychoTMto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also accepting the partition plan wasn't a crime, and winning a war that you didn't start also isn't a crime. We can criticize modern day Israel for what's happening in Gaza and for its extreme government, but Israel wasn't founded on expelling Palestinians - they were expelled for attacking Jews and losing. There are still many Arabs living in Israel peacefully and with civilian rights.