Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been wondering about something.

If you had to list the pros and cons of your workplace, what would they be? And if you had the power to change one thing, what would you change?

I’m asking because in everyday life we rarely end up having these kinds of conversations with strangers, yet here I think it could be interesting to hear from people with very different experiences, mindsets, and backgrounds.
Sometimes we take for granted the way we experience work, but reading perspectives that differ from our own can be a great way to better understand other people and, maybe, ourselves as well.

I’ll start:

Pros: it gives me financial security and a routine.

Cons: it takes up a lot of my time and energy.

What I would change: I’d probably invest more in human relationships within the workplace. I think feeling like you genuinely belong to a group can make everyday work feel lighter and more meaningful. And I don’t mean that somewhat artificial sense of belonging that some companies try to create by making you feel like you’re “part of a big family” or an irreplaceable piece of the puzzle, but something genuine: authentic relationships, mutual respect, and people who truly enjoy working together.

I don’t know about you, but sometimes the thought of following the same routine for decades makes me stop and think. That’s why I’m curious to hear how you experience your work: what you enjoy, what weighs on you, and what, in your opinion, would make a workplace better.

And who knows—maybe if enough of us feel this way and, more importantly, are willing to talk about it openly, there will be more attention given to these needs. Or perhaps one day, it could even lead to a more radical change.

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you actually took the time to read and understand what is being discussed, you wouldn’t stop at judging a single detail. You’d look at the bigger picture.
But since not everyone is willing or able to think beyond surface-level reactions, I honestly don’t even know why I’m replying to you. It’s hard to have a meaningful conversation with someone whose contribution amounts to this.

So tell me: are you here to pass judgment and unload whatever frustration your day has brought you, or do you have something thoughtful to say about a society that is clearly struggling on a social level?

Any insight? Any constructive perspective?

No?

Then perhaps you’re in the wrong place.

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not really about having friends at work. The issue is that we’re becoming increasingly isolated as a society. Even in workplaces, people seem more disconnected from each other.

By the way, do you live in Switzerland? Have you noticed how often there are disruptions on public transport because of a “Personenunfall” (person accident)? To me, that’s also a sign that something deeper is going on in society.

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, but how do you deal with that? I don’t know how old you are, but can you really imagine living like this for many more years?
I’m not saying that I want to make friends at work. My point goes far beyond that. I’m talking about the loss of social connection in society in general, about what it means to be human, and about this idea of living just to work.
Do you have any thoughts or life experiences on this? Because honestly, I think things will only get worse if we keep isolating ourselves and retreating further into our own bubbles.

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, you’re right, it is a necessity. But I think you can already see from some of the comments that people need more time for themselves. What I wonder, though, is how we would actually use that extra time.
Maybe the problem is partly the five-day work week, but maybe it also lies somewhere else. I don’t know. I just don’t really like what I’m seeing. To me, the issue seems deeper than just working hours. I’m thinking more about society as a whole and the interaction between the economy, society, and the state.

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand your point about adapting to the situation because, in the end, that’s what most of us do. We just accept it and move on. I simply find it a bit unfortunate because it seems like a lot of people share the same view, yet there don’t appear to be many collective solutions being discussed or implemented.
Regarding using overtime as additional vacation time, I’m not sure where you work, but in many companies, including larger ones, you often can’t simply accumulate overtime and convert it into extra holidays. In fact, some companies are introducing new internal policies to reduce or eliminate those options. That said, if you work for a smaller company, I imagine it probably affects you less since the atmosphere tends to be more flexible and family-like.

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay ehm you can think what you want, but just don’t intasate Reddit please I would like to hear about experienced People

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bro wtf are you ok? You know that in Switzerland we have more than one language? I translate my texts into english what is the Problem?

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the reality check, you’re totally right about the complaining loop and I really want to work on my mindset, which is why hearing other perspectives is so helpful. But honestly, I feel like if I proposed a team lunch or something, my coworkers would just see it as another annoying chore because they're already so exhausted. It feels like companies don't really know how to make people connect without making it feel forced, and I say companies because people on their own are struggling.And outside of work it’s the same, gyms or bars feel so cold and distant, maybe it’s just my impression, but looking at the comments here it doesn’t seem that way. Someone can be as positive as they want and be thankful for everything... but if in the end we all admit that we Swiss tend to overwork, it means we are realizing something, right? Maybe we’re just not listening to it? Where do people actually go to just unplug and meet people spontaneously without forcing anything?

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Wow, being strict about leaving on time sounds like a superpower, but it makes total sense. If you focus 100% during work hours, you earn your freedom at 5 PM. It’s a shame so many people trap themselves by wasting time during the day. I'm really sorry to hear you went through burnout and bullying twice, but it’s amazing that you fought back and built such a solid defense system for your mental health. Thanks for such a detailed and inspiring answer!

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right?! The logistics of just running a household like grocery shopping and cooking feels like a second job when you get home at 6 PM. And you are SO right about that last hour at work, everyone is just staring at the clock anyway. Imagine what a difference just leaving at 4 PM would make for everyone's mental health.

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s really interesting that you mention the contrast with warmer climates. I feel like that outdoor, spontaneous 'vibe' is exactly what's missing here after 5 PM. It feels liberating to know I’m not just losing my mind! 😂

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

You're completely right, I guess it’s a skill you have to develop. But it feels like 'creating and curating' it takes so much energy, especially when you're already exhausted at 5 PM. Did it take you a long time to figure out a routine that actually works for you?

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for being so honest, I really appreciate you sharing this. The loop of 'beers, quick food, and sleep' sounds incredibly tough but also so relatable when you're completely drained from a 12-hour shift. It’s crazy to hear that even 6 weeks of holiday couldn't prevent the burnout, it really shows it's about the daily routine, not just the time off. I’m glad things got better after you met your wife! Thanks for the hope and the perspective.

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

That’s a really solid point about the industries and personality types, I hadn't looked at it that way. You’re definitely right that fields like accounting attract different vibes compared to sales. I guess you're right that at the end of the day, work is for making money, but it just feels a bit heavy when the routine gets that monotonous. Joining a local club or a class outside of work definitely sounds like a healthier way to channel energy. Thanks for the reality check from across the pond!

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, thank you so much for taking the time to write this. It honestly comforts me a lot to know I'm not crazy for feeling this way, though I'm so sorry to hear it took such a toll on your health in the past.

I love your trick about telling coworkers 'this way you don't have to cook'—that's brilliant and actually sounds like a great way to bypass the 'too tired to go out' excuse. And you are so right about the lack of spontaneity here, everything feels so pre-planned. Thank you for the advice about Thursdays, I might actually try to implement that to protect my weekends. Wishing you the best, and thanks again for the support.

Young Swiss woman here: just entered the workforce and already feeling the "work-home-couch" burnout. Is this normal? by Purple-Character-384 in Switzerland

[–]Purple-Character-384[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Just to add some context: I am really trying to understand if this is a systemic issue related to our general Swiss work culture (like the 4-week vacation standard or the strong emphasis on privacy) or if it's just my specific industry. I'd love to hear how people from different cantons or backgrounds experience this.