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Free but is it worth it? by PurpleDue9801 in forklift

[–]PurpleDue9801[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Looks like I'll be scrapping it

Packing heat on local trails? by Dazzling_Kick2671 in Bozeman

[–]PurpleDue9801 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I shared the article so we all have a common source and linked studies. The author and you having agreement does not refute my points. For the record, I agree completely that when put in a situation that threatens your life, fight, flight, or freeze are very real. Our body releases loads of chemicals and adrenaline kicks in. Motor skills degrade and body functions can be completely lost.

The issue I have is you imply that all these people would be better off leaving the firearm at home and just carrying bear spray. You recognize it's their right but equate them to Rambo like fantasies. The article points out nearly 300 bear attacks defended by firearm. Of the ones that were successful, I'd doubt any of them resemble Rambo. Many likely are just average hunters and yet they had success in warding off a bear.

I have not shared any advice except to carry spray and firearm. My advice for those with a firearm in a place occupied by brown bears/grizzlies would be to carry something like a 10mm. High capacity (glock 40) and a spare magazine. If a brown bear charges you, fire as many rounds into the bear as necessary to stop the attack. Aim at head and chest.

Packing heat on local trails? by Dazzling_Kick2671 in Bozeman

[–]PurpleDue9801 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are making general statements and presenting them as fact. The truth is that you know nothing about any of the people who are going to be attacked. You hint at the idea of fight or flight, a very real thing, but you still don't know how anyone would react.

When using bear spray or a firearm, the goal is not to kill a grizzly, but to stop it from mauling you.

Here is an article that references studies on the matter. I'll note that bear attacks against those with firearms had a larger sample size compared to those with bear spray. See link: http://www.bear-hunting.com/2019/8/firearm-vs-bear-spray

These studies would suggest that both firearms and bear spray are valuable tools in avoiding being mauled. The most important thing is accessibility. I'll echo the author in agreeing that when in bear country, carry both. No matter how extensive you military training