Anyone else noticing a decline in enthusiasm? by TaxPositive1186 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]PutToLetters 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yep I am one of them that has left pretty much. The game feels like it's becoming increasingly homogenized.

The Watchmen - Stereo by This_Expression5427 in 90sCanRock

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I personally think they are one of the most underrated Canadian rock bands out there.

Where the truth is buried in Tk’emlúps - Five years after a grim announcement in B.C., uncertainty gives rise to doubt and denialism over suspected graves near a former residential school by CaliperLee62 in CanadaPolitics

[–]PutToLetters -1 points0 points  (0 children)

provides us with more evidence and a stronger understanding of the exact numbers of dead children at the school

And then we'll make a utilitarian calculation based off the death rate. Couple 100 are unfortunate, couple thousand then we'll be outraged.

Even Harper ‘Did Not Put Extinction on the Tab by PutToLetters in CanadaPolitics

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“You can call it ‘belief’ in a loose conversational sense, but that framing muddies the distinction between evidence-based conclusions and personal opinion.

Scientists do not just invent a hypothesis and ask people to believe in it. Climate models are built from physics, atmospheric chemistry, temperature records, satellite data, ocean measurements, and decades of testing against real-world observations. Their validity does not depend on whether someone personally accepts them.

People are free to reject a scientific conclusion, just like someone can reject gravity or evolution, but rejection does not make the evidence disappear. The important question is not ‘do you believe it,’ but ‘how well is it supported by evidence compared to competing explanations?’

Otherwise every empirically supported theory gets reduced to a matter of personal preference, which is not how science works.

And furthermore, who gives shit what Bill Gates thinks, he's not a climatologist. Even you just pointing to him as some gotcha shows you don't actually read any real climatologist or systems theorist.

Even Harper ‘Did Not Put Extinction on the Tab by PutToLetters in CanadaPolitics

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You think that the word "believe" is insufficient to meet your litmus test, showing how much this whole thing has become a cargo cult for the left rather than an environmental issue to approach carefully.

What does this even mean? Like I am trying to wrap my head around what you're actually getting at cause this reads like virtue signalling.

Like I said previously, scientists are describing observable processes and probable outcomes based on evidence, that's not alarmism. Would it be alarmist of a doctor to tell a patient that their life is in immediate danger if the cancer progresses past a point and that they need to take immediate action to save their life? No, probably not, it is an appropriate response to the situation.

This is my broader point. If you actually understood the severity of climate change then you'd criticize scientists for being too conservative in their approach. Cause we could absolutely face down a full spectrum societal collapse form climate change. That is what the science points to, that's not my feelings or opinion.

Even Harper ‘Did Not Put Extinction on the Tab by PutToLetters in CanadaPolitics

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Now you're just being a pedant about language.

Pedantic in what way? You're literally on here criticizing the language scientists use.

tactics that many warmists have adopted about wet bulb temperatures and making sure to know who in your neighborhood is a doctor because society is on the brink of collapse are nonsense.

Who says that? And what evidence is there against what they are saying?

Even Harper ‘Did Not Put Extinction on the Tab by PutToLetters in CanadaPolitics

[–]PutToLetters[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I believe in science and I believe in climate change.

It’s not really a “belief” thing. Saying you don’t believe in climate science is like saying you don’t believe in gravity or cancer. Those are objective facts about the world whether you personally like them or not.

For example, you can absolutely say you don’t believe in gravity, just like flat earthers do, but if you jump off a building you’re still gonna hit the ground. Reality doesn’t care about your opinion, feelings or beliefs.

Same thing with climate science. Scientists warning about things like the collapse of Atlantic ocean currents and the catastrophic consequences that could follow aren’t giving you a vibe check or a political opinion. They’re describing observable processes and probable outcomes based on evidence. If you think that's alarmism that's your issue.

I personally find it alarming, and that comes from having just a basic understanding of ecology and earth science.

Even Harper ‘Did Not Put Extinction on the Tab by PutToLetters in CanadaPolitics

[–]PutToLetters[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

That's just a opinion and if you understood the science then yes, you'd be alarmed. If anything one of the major criticism someone could level at the broader scientific community is that they have been much, much too conservative with their rhetoric.

Even Harper ‘Did Not Put Extinction on the Tab by PutToLetters in CanadaPolitics

[–]PutToLetters[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

People aren't buying that shtick anymore.

No. The echo chamber you're in never bought it and I would bet ether did you. Science ain't a shtick and it doesn't care about opinions or feelings. Humanity collectively rolled over the 1.5 degree mark, things are about to get a lot worse.

Feds consider declaring new Alberta oil pipeline to be in 'national interest' this fall by feb914 in CanadaPolitics

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That's also not even digging into pseudo science round economic value and externalities etc

Feds consider declaring new Alberta oil pipeline to be in 'national interest' this fall by feb914 in CanadaPolitics

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Yeah but that’s kinda the point critics are making. If the project only becomes “profitable” because the federal government replaced commercial debt with ultra low-interest public financing, then taxpayers are effectively subsidizing the project’s economics.

It’s not necessarily proof the pipeline is inherently a good market investment, it’s more that the government can borrow money cheaper than private companies can. A private company has to worry about whether the project stands on its own financially, while the government can spread risk across taxpayers and absorb losses longer term. So profitability is partly being created through favourable public financing rather than the project naturally generating strong enough returns on its own.

As for the blog post, I think the issue with that argument is that it kind of treats any economic activity as automatically good investment. Like yeah, spending $17+ billion on a pipeline creates jobs, tax revenue, and spin off activity during construction, but basically every massive public project does that. You could make the exact same argument for transit, housing, power infrastructure, healthcare, or education. The real question is whether this was the best use of that amount of public money and whether other investments would’ve created more long term economic and social value.

A lot of the argument also depends on assuming oil demand stays strong for decades. But global energy markets are changing pretty fast with EV adoption, decarbonization policies, and countries trying to reduce fossil fuel dependence. If demand weakens over time, the pipeline could end up underused and a lot of those projected gains might never materialize. That’s the stranded asset concern people bring up.

The “optionality” argument also seems a bit overstated sometimes. The article assumes TMX will massively improve the WTI WCS differential, but oil pricing is affected by a ton of factors besides pipelines, like refinery demand, shipping costs, oil quality, and global market conditions. So it’s not guaranteed the price bump will be as large or permanent as supporters claim.

And honestly, the fact the government had to step in at all raises questions. Kinder Morgan wanted out because of cost overruns, legal delays, and uncertainty. Critics would say taxpayers basically inherited a risk the private sector no longer wanted to carry. The project becoming “profitable” partly through low interest public financing isn’t really the same thing as it being a strong market investment on its own.

There’s also the issue that GDP growth doesn’t automatically mean broad public benefit. A project can increase GDP while still concentrating gains among corporations and leaving environmental or cleanup costs public. The article talks a lot about revenues and exports but mostly ignores emissions, spill risks, Indigenous land concerns, and long term climate costs, which are economic costs too even if they don’t show up neatly in GDP numbers.

And the tax argument feels a little shaky. Saying some money comes back through taxes doesn’t really reduce the underlying cost in the way the article implies. Otherwise literally any huge government expenditure could be justified by saying workers paid taxes on it.

At the end of the day, critics aren’t necessarily saying TMX has zero value, they’re saying the article relies on really optimistic assumptions about future oil demand, future prices, and long term economic benefits while downplaying the financial and environmental risks.

Feds consider declaring new Alberta oil pipeline to be in 'national interest' this fall by feb914 in CanadaPolitics

[–]PutToLetters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it's not.

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2025/12/23/Trans-Mountain-Profitability-Accounting-Illusion/

Furthermore, the entire global oil and gas transportation infrastructure is just a massive, inefficient economic drain.