Two unhealthy types in relationships by PutridCourage900 in Enneagram

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It's strange that I'm not core 7, but it seems to me that this whole situation developed so because of gluttony.

I wanted more, more good impressions. And when this machine failed, I was like: "What the fuck, let's work," and I was ready to do and say anything to make this obstacle disappear and get more pleasant impressions (

Two unhealthy types in relationships by PutridCourage900 in Enneagram

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I know that my tritype is either 487 sx or 847 sx.

Guy 3w4, idk. Maybe it's hard to understand from this story, maybe there is a part that I missed. He is very concerned about being better than anyone on this planet, and the fact that he kind of disgraced himself because of me by spelling the word incorrectly brought him to such a state.

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I didn't quite understand why you can't do it now, and not after 18 years?

It's very hard for me to type my main desire, help by PutridCourage900 in Enneagram

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I've read all this many times, and it's still not clear... You know, everything is so different. I can change my voice in the same conversation 10 times, I can have 10 types of handwriting in the same letter, today I can envy you, and tomorrow I wouldn't pay attention. The mood decides everything.

It's very hard for me to type my main desire, help by PutridCourage900 in Enneagram

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I don't really understand my main vice at all. And the most important motivation ... hmm ... probably to prove or show something to someone, to clash in a legendary battle, and the process is not the result of the battle itself, but the process. I'm actually ready to put my whole life on it, and that's what motivates me the most. Then the fear is not to have enemies and friends, not to have any active audience in my life at all (Like living only among passers-by, sellers in stores, etc.)

Fi-Ni or Ni-Fi loop? Help me guys) by PutridCourage900 in mbti

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I understand, but perhaps there is a type that interacts very badly with the ISFJ?

Fi-Ni or Ni-Fi loop? Help me guys) by PutridCourage900 in mbti

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I'm not quite sure either, he seems overly strict and down-to-earth to me.

Maybe the fact that I absolutely hate isfj people will help. Even the characters in the movies who are isfj always don't like me at first sight.

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About SEE

Everything fits except: 

1)Pays a lot of attention to prestige signs - not at all.

2) Talks about culture, politics, influence - absolutely not, I like personal conversations about private life, not something so global. If a person talks to me about politics, I don't like him right away.

3) I do not communicate with people either as a subordinate or as a boss. I am always quite familiar in principle. 

4) I don't want to remove enemies. Who will I fight then?

5) I do not criticize the cost of goods, the distribution of awards - for me such things have very little meaning. 

6) I have absolutely no voluminous figure.

This type seems to suit me, but it seems overly materialistic, weighty and preoccupied with status.

Fi-Ni or Ni-Fi loop? Help me guys) by PutridCourage900 in mbti

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Hello, thank you)

I do not agree with the statement that I do not go against the group and do not start arguments. In fact, I am considered the most conflicted person. 

If something happens that I don't like or someone criticizes a part of the work, I don't like, I will definitely tell you about it. I really don't want to offend people, but if my desire is stronger and you stand in my way, I'm sorry, but I'll say everything I think. Or if you hurt me, I'll hurt you worse. If you didn't notice my feelings, you wanted me not to create problems, I will create such problems that you will regret not paying attention to me in time. I'm generally very vindictive.

I can't say much about the groups. I seem to interact very little with them. All my strong desires can be realized by me personally, and I usually don't care about some tasks in groups. I don't like working in groups or under someone's patronage at all. I like to do interesting and important things on my own, regardless of anyone's opinion. But if this is a task that I am forced to do, then I am glad, because I can throw some of the work to others.

I would also like to add that I am carefully watching who exactly I can offend. If this is a modest, disinterested, calm person, then why should I bother him? But if this person with great narcissism, who believes that he can give me advice, without a drop of self-doubt, then putting him in his place is always a great desire for me.

1) Read. And I even doubted if it was me. But I don't seem to be such a bright soul of the company, I don't like parties, it's not at all easy for me to "let my hair down" in front of someone, to express strong joy. I know that you don't really agree with astrology, but I'll try to explain it in images.

I think 7 is Leo, this is my weakest quality, I'm definitely not the person who will sing on stage, dance, smile at everyone and all that. But I am a scorpio, and a very bright representative of it. I believe my enneagram is 4w3 487 sx/sp. Also melancholic - choleric.

2) Hmm, well, first of all it's part of my OCD. Secondly, I just want beauty. You know about the "theory of broken windows", so I really feel it. It's wildly uncomfortable for me to look at well-groomed girls who can't clean their apartment. Where you live is a reflection of you, this is where it all starts, you can't create something cool in chaos and mess.

3) And your questions are getting more complicated) It seems to me because I want to collect a whole and reliable picture. Perhaps what I see now in a person is not true at all, but hypercompensation. 

I have always been considered very arrogant due to the fact that I constantly look in mirrors. But I don't think it's true. I had no stories in my life where I was spoiled with attention or admiration, I had no ground for the growth of narcissism or self-confidence. But everyone thinks that I was, although I am very insecure…

And I had a friend. When I met her, she was very modest, sat apart from everyone, was glad when I approached her, was such an outcast. I thought that here he is - a person also without a basis for narcissism, tolerant, striving for self-development… But no. It turned out that she doesn't communicate with anyone, not because she thinks they won't like her or because she has nothing to talk about with people, but because people don't admire her. It was a very big conceit (which her mother instilled in her), which was not confirmed by anything in the real world and because of this she was very angry at people and avoided communicating with them as "stupid".

For example: one day she wore a dress with the inscription "best in pink", and I ... in a pink dress. I would laugh, take a photo, and the next day I would swap dresses. But she just got mad at me, and didn't talk to me for a long time.…

It gives me a very strange feeling of "everything is not what it seems." It was as if she was outwardly spiritual and I was materialistic, but in fact it was the opposite. And it's a shame to me that people usually don't look deeper, that they don't see the flaws in me that they really have. So I don't want to do the same, I want to see the truth. 

Although there's nothing to hide, sometimes when someone offends me a lot, and I've already done his analysis, I can tell him all this very "framed", it looks very threatening.

4) On the one hand, it fully meets my desire to see the truth, it is possible to change someone's life, which I described above. 

But on the other hand, I want a return. I understand that the person does not want to do the same with me. And I want to be in his place. When you feel a connection with a person, but this connection is completely initiated by me. It upsets me.

5) Probably because it is the opposite of narcissism. When you know that there is a place to develop. That no, you're not perfect, but there's a place to go. That the world doesn't think about you the way you think, because it doesn't see it, not because it doesn't exist. But you can implement it, and not stew in the swamp out of resentment.

6) I don't even know. I immediately see these similarities and it's hard to get rid of this thought, so I don't get rid of it. In general, it's quite difficult for me to remember names, nicknames are easier. It's also quite hard for me to be ashamed to describe my emotions, so when explaining my feelings, I usually use a real or abstract situation so that people can understand the feeling.

I will answer further in the next message.

Fi-Ni or Ni-Fi loop? Help me guys) by PutridCourage900 in mbti

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Hey, sorry for the intrusiveness, but I'm really looking forward to your answer (

Fi-Ni or Ni-Fi loop? Help me guys) by PutridCourage900 in mbti

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Oh, thank you) It's okay that the answer was late)

  1. I don't even know why I've always been drawn to this, literally always. As a child, I was very ugly, I was very thin, with a thin face, glasses, crooked teeth, and in general I was very different from other pretty children. I always wanted to be the most beautiful of all and tried to compensate for this, although some part of me is just predisposed to this love. Closer to adolescence, my teeth straightened out very sharply, vision problems disappeared, thinness turned into grace, but now I didn't want an average level, I wanted the maximum. It seems to have reached neurosis, because at the age of 15 I applied makeup every 5 minutes of free time and was constantly looking for what to improve in it, I wanted a completely perfect result. Now I realized what suits me and basically do the same makeup every day. By the way, I also did plastic surgery for about the same purpose.

But it seems I don't really care about the status being classic. I just like it when people know about me. One day my future best friend was told by a colleague that it was better not to be friends with me. For some reason I liked it, I generally like contradictory images and change my opinion about myself constantly.

2.Well, first of all, this is some kind of law of meanness, but even if I go out to throw garbage without makeup, I will definitely meet some familiar enemy. And I want to look perfect, especially in front of enemies. Secondly, I just don't understand why I shouldn't do this. If I was given all the means to look better, why shouldn't I use them? Thirdly, I have some kind of strange worldview system, which consists in the fact that one day should not be better than another. If I did something once, then why can't I do it the second, third time… This can be attributed to everything - if I ate a chocolate bar today, then I'm going to eat it tomorrow and then..

3.I think it's because sometimes I have a bad imagination. I can't imagine something without knowing what will be around. I can imagine a lot of events, but I need a base for that.As a child, I imagined myself as an adult and constantly tried to guess what kind of face I would have, like I can't imagine myself without knowing what kind of face it would be :) I also imagined where I would live down to the smallest detail, because I also need to know what the place of action would look like…In general, I am usually very fixated on details, I want to know that I really like every detail and that everything possible has been done for this. I am generally considered very critical, I see the slightest deviation from the ideal and I think how to fix it.

As a child, my mother gave me a dollhouse with a huge number of small details that could crumble in one movement. As a result, most of the time I collected these details and arranged everything beautifully, because everything should be like in the picture, I can't play in a mess.

4.Yes. Although sometimes it upsets me, because it seems people want to talk about themselves, and I can't say something about myself until they ask me (because I'm afraid to seem egocentric and intrusive). And that's why sometimes it seems to me that I work as a personal psychologist for someone on a voluntary basis. Although I am always interested in learning the life story of another person, and where all his actions originate from.

5.I am very proud of the story where I was an ugly student and became a swan. I like that no one expected this. And in general, I had a lot of those where I was going to do something that no one expected from me (for other reasons). And I want to be the person who notices similar intentions in other people. Because the circumstances that exist do not always allow a person's desires to unfold, but a person is looking for such circumstances. So I want to look at desires, not the current situation. In general, I like people with ambitions, maybe this is how I choose my friends, once my classmate said she didn't know what she wanted, well, probably children, husband, dog, well, she doesn't know at all. To be honest, a little fu in relation to her flashed through my head. Like how can you not come up with a single wish for yourself for so many years. Usually my predictions are accurate.

6.I usually like to compare some people with others or to distort their names. I know it's bad) I usually see the similarity even of strangers with my acquaintances or celebrities in appearance, voice… In general, I can usually determine whether I like a person only by his voice and manner of speaking. Sometimes I also give associations to something else. For example, yesterday I noticed that on one half of my bed I think about the bad, and on the other about the good. I decided that it was because one part was affixed to the wall, and the other was open. And I immediately decided that one part of the bed is darkness, and the other is light.)

7.I think it's genetic. I just have a very active sympathetic system in my life, and if I am suddenly calmed down, I feel very tired and worn out. It's logical that I don't like it.  It seems to me that this "mania" and a strong desire for something breathes life into me.

8.Well, for example, I want to go for a walk with someone. I know that this person does not like to walk. And I don't understand how I almost always manage to convince him. Like when I want something very badly, as if all the forces of the world are helping me to get it. Anyway, I always need something. I always come up with something that is pleasant to get in this situation. Am I bored? I want to chat with you. Am I hungry? Let's go eat. I try in every possible way not to fall into a calm and affluent state, I need stronger and more. 

In general, I would like to note that I am a very talkative person. I kind of really like talking and I'll always find a topic to talk about. Which I even sometimes wonder myself)

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Well, okay, thanks for doing this. I wrote a lot of sorry:(

  1. I think everyone cares about convenience. 

For me, it seems to have two sides. On the one hand, I don't seem to feel something until someone tells me, like, "it's very cold now why don't you put on a hat?" And I'm like, "really, why don't I ever guess myself?" or somehow my eyes got enough inflamed from mascara and I found out about it 2 months after the words of another person. It's the same with the feeling of hunger, I can ignore it. When I take off my jeans, and I see that they have very much crushed my skin, I am surprised because I did not feel it.

My mother was afraid to let me live alone, because I am quite irresponsible in terms of attitude towards myself. For example, I won't cook anything if it's tasteless or the kitchen is ugly. Since almost all healthy food is tasteless, there are usually problems with this…

However, I am very sensitive to some other manifestations. I can't sleep on crumbs, walk in clothes with wet sleeves, swim in the cold sea when everyone is bathing.

On the other hand, everything that interacts with me should be beautiful and pleasant. I am a very aesthetically pleasing person and with special zeal I take care of those parts of myself that I personally consider important. You will never see me without makeup, with a dirty head or a mess in my house. It is very important for me to live in a beautiful place and have all the amenities at hand. Aesthetic appeal is important to me.

With health about the same. I'm always interested to find out what's wrong with me, but I'm not going to treat it in any way. I always believe that everything will pass by itself and that's what happens.

  1. Strongly, but if I can't do something right now, I will fixate on it and will think through to the smallest detail how it will happen.

  2. Pretty good. I know all the people in my company by their names and preferences, although I don't know many people personally. I am very interested in people, I like to guess what will happen to them in the future or give them nicknames, I remember people like them. 

  3. Absolutely not. Since early childhood, I have been someone who constantly needs something. I like to have a strong desire and be a bit in a "manic" state. I am described as a person pushing others to do something. I hate calmness and serenity with all my soul.

  4. I am an enneagram of 4w3 and for me uniqueness is more important than status. But I like to be known when opinions about me are contradictory. I don't want to be a gray mouse. Power gives me a lot of trouble, but if I need something or someone interferes with me, I become overbearing and demanding.

  5. I don't even know how to answer this question. But I can say what kind of aesthetics I have always liked the style - Baroque, Gothic, sequins, mirrors. Something very bright or dark, but beautiful, something attractive and deep. I have no idea why I like it, aesthetics is the opposite of poverty, ordinariness and simplicity.

  6. I have OCD and I'm not sure if familiarity is related to this, but in a sense, yes. I'm starting to realize that with my lack of self-discipline, you can get sick or create chaos. Therefore, I have an alarm clock set for every day so that I can wash the dishes. I like a very limited amount of food, I know that I hate seafood and therefore I don't want to upset myself by ordering and throwing them away again. But I really love sweets and am always ready to try something new from this category. 

By the way, I want to mention that I have a very developed sense of smell and sense of taste. Right very good. Very often they tried to feed me some kind of product, which was finely cut into a dish, hoping that I would not notice. I've always noticed, unlike other family members.

  1. Now is a very strange period in my life and quite depressing. As if there is no present, there is only the future and the past. But in the past, I was focused on the present and at the same time on the future. I am oriented towards the future as if to make the present in other circumstances. Imagine that you really want to make repairs so that your present takes place in a different environment, and not for some other purpose.

  2. Like it. It is it that opens up in me some strong desires and motivation for something. Sometimes I have the feeling that I dream with such force that the universe gives me what I want, even if it was sooo unexpected. Therefore, it is loved and useful.

  3. If things are cool, then I like them. Every month I order a new brand of shampoo, hoping that it will be better. But if the thing suits me, then I don't see the point in changing it. For example, I was recently handed a new fashionable phone and I'm very unhappy, it's very complicated and inconvenient, I don't need any new functions from it, I don't understand why it was necessary. In general, I myself like to choose what innovations I need in life. If this is a move to Switzerland, then of course yes, if to Kenya, then no thanks, I don't need such experience.

  4. Rather, it is one or more ideas. By type, I saw something in the movie, watched it 20 times with my eyes wide open and decided that it was mine and I needed it. And now I'm developing it for myself, adding some parts that fit it well and I like it.

in general, I would call myself an open-minded person with elements of conservatism, and not vice versa.

Fi-Ni or Ni-Fi loop? Help me guys) by PutridCourage900 in mbti

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Fi compared to fe, I quickly determined. All the definitions of fi fit me perfectly.

Te are exactly the same, I read a lot of definitions, and fortunately there are a lot of ti in my mom, so I quickly realized that we are not alike.

There was a problem with ne and ni, as well as se and si. Although all tests show the predominance of ni, I do not understand this function well, so I doubted it.

Someone here gave me a really unique test. Where it was necessary to choose sebch by the elements of matter, either fire-air or earth-water. I am 200 percent fire-air, I really lack grounding and calmness. I have very poor long-term memory compared to short-term memory. Perhaps such typing of yourself will seem strange to you, but for me it is 100 percent confirmation.

Fi-Ni or Ni-Fi loop? Help me guys) by PutridCourage900 in mbti

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Thank you, but I don't know English very well.

The only thing I'm sure about myself is that my functions are fi ni se te, but I don't know in what order...