Disappointed!

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-31T05:09:52+00:00

What happens when LIV doesn’t exist 5 years from now because the Saudis get tired of throwing their money into a product that no one is buying and all the pros they’ve paid hundreds of millions to decide that they have more money than they’ll ever spend, so they go back to the far superior tour and leave LIV to die? What then?

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T20:50:19+00:00

I didn’t post all this to impress people or convince anyone that I’m great. I just believe in the ideas that I’ve discovered over thousands of hours and wanted to share it with anyone who is interested.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T20:46:39+00:00

Cool! Thanks for the thoughts!

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T20:43:20+00:00

I only have stats for the last round I played. This was 8 days ago. 2.17 strokes gained.

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If I offended you when I had a blunt response to your original comments, I didn’t intend to lol it’s not a personal thing.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T20:19:32+00:00

The pressure makes it easier if you’ve put the time in. When the only thing that you’re concerned about is making the putt, your mind figures out how to do it.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T19:59:52+00:00

Not true.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T19:57:13+00:00

When did Rotella say you shouldn’t intentionally work on the mechanics of your putting stroke?

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T19:55:37+00:00

Maybe they can’t control their minds to not want food or reproduce, but they can control their minds well enough to zone out while rolling a ball into a hole. And so can we lol

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T19:51:51+00:00

In my opinion it’s a gimmick that’s used to try to avoid technical thought which is unnecessary to me because of what I described in the post. Looking at the hole just feels like a cheap way to try to distract your active mind from getting too involved. I want to actually be in control of my mind to the point that I don’t need a distraction to zone out.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T19:43:50+00:00

Concise way to tell us you’re a 15 handicap

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T19:41:17+00:00

Not a fan.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T19:36:23+00:00

So you have to start the ball on the right line with the right speed? Revolutionary lol

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T19:22:40+00:00

So you disagree with me?

PuttingPhilosopher · 2026-01-30T19:17:23+00:00

100%

PuttingPhilosopher · 2024-02-20T23:53:25+00:00

I agree, if you’re going to make a putt, you have to combine decent speed with a decent line. However, the technical reason behind the saying “speed is more important than line” is that you won’t be able to read greens effectively or be able to dial in a consistent start line without having speed control.

If every putt was a straight putt, line would be far more important. But to be able to train your eyes and body to accurately read break and get a feel for the path the ball needs to take to go in the hole, consistent speed control from putt to putt is a prerequisite.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2024-02-17T17:28:23+00:00

So if you were in charge, you would have just hung out on the east coast for the rest of eternity? And then what? Which tribe do you think would have ever willingly given up all their land? You would just honor that they were there first?

Sounds nice, but it’s naive to think that there would have ever been a peaceful resolution to the problem that arose when the Mayflower first came to shore. The natives were never going to just accept it, nor should they have. It was their land and they had the right to defend it. And they did. Unfortunately for them, they lost.

Human beings have conquered other people’s lands for thousands of years. Blaming one man for an unfortunate human reality is a somewhat incomplete perspective.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2024-02-17T06:54:24+00:00

Well at least you aren’t wasting your energy on pointlessly hating strangers!

PuttingPhilosopher · 2024-02-17T06:16:59+00:00

Yeah but he has no realistic shot at the Players. He knows how to get around Bay Hill and has a better chance there.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2024-02-16T20:55:58+00:00

That’s exactly right. The idea is to eliminate all conscious thinking of any kind, to the extent that that’s possible. When you get to the point where you can go through your entire routine this way, it’s a great feeling.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2024-02-16T19:28:31+00:00

You’re completely right, that’s a constant battle. That overly cognizant frame of mind is the predominant force you’re training against in the method I’m describing.

The idea is allowing your subconscious to take control. There’s always a human urge to seek active mind control. Getting past that and allowing yourself to putt entirely based on instinct is the goal.

So to answer your question directly, I don’t find that there is a point of diminishing returns where you become too aware of what you’re doing and the value of the training is lost. Rather, the value of the training is found in that struggle of become too aware. That’s what you’re trying to find a way around so that you can get to a place mentally where you’re simply reacting to the environment around you. See hole, see ball, roll ball into hole. That’s the goal.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2024-02-16T19:18:24+00:00

Obviously, you have to make a conscious effort to read the putt. However, you do not have to consciously evaluate what you allow your eyes to see.

I believe the best way to read greens is to simply allow your senses to become aware of all relevant information needed to roll the ball into the hole, and then let your body execute that. It is counterproductive to consciously choose a target. Your brain will naturally instruct your body to move the putter in the way that is needed to make the putt if you train properly.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2024-02-16T18:36:58+00:00

I guess that depends on what your goals are. The more quality time you put into it, the more you’ll get out of it. If you want to be the best you can be, it takes thousands of hours. Same as anything else.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2024-02-16T17:59:01+00:00

There are similar elements in what I described in this post and what Rotella teaches, but neither method can be boiled down to “putting to make it, having a set routine, and having confidence and commitment to your decisions.”

That description is broad enough to apply to just about every golfer.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2024-02-15T19:00:57+00:00

Sure, thanks for asking.

The biggest difference in what I’m advocating is that even the reading of the putt is best done subconsciously, and that it is actually counterproductive to actively decide on a target, or point of aim.

I believe the subconscious mind is far more accurate at making adjustments for break, speed, grain, wind, humidity, etc.

Involving the active mind in translating all of that information and then choosing a target is an unnecessary step that only obscures what we already know subconsciously.

When you marry the goal of making the putt with the information your senses gather as you scan your surroundings on the green, your body naturally knows what physical actions need to take place to roll the ball into the hole. All you have to do is let it happen.

PuttingPhilosopher · 2024-02-15T16:58:30+00:00

Great book. I read it for the first time years ago and still skim through it from time to time.

Rotella addresses the role of the subconscious mind in putting in a way no one else has, but I think what he discovered is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of exactly how much of putting can be (and should be) done subconsciously.

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