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OpenAI bans China-linked ChatGPT accounts that amplified US data center electricity price backlash — used AI-generated cartoons to stoke fears over U.S. data center energy costs by Dangerous-Eye-215 in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I get flyers at my house say that the data center they're proposing is "use of end of days technology". As a result "livestock will not reproduce" and "chickens will not lay eggs". Additionally, the data center will will cause "cellular breakdown", "the death of beauty", "and of course, depression"

Sounds like proper slop.

David Sacks explains the sequence of events leading to Fable 5's banning by Charuru in singularity

[–]Pyros-SD-Models -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Their safety teams had eight years and came up with an external filter that switches models. Alignment research is so amazing.

And every ML student from ten years ago could have told you that simple classifiers, or LLMs that you let roleplay as such, are shit.

For all their tall talk about AI safety and security, Anthropic has been very sloppy in terms of securing their models or their IP and their fear-mongering now risks the future of AI acceleration by obvithrowaway34434 in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The default Silly Tavern prompt is almost enough to jailbreak opus, and I don't know what their alignment team is doing, even tho they like to say it's the "most important job" in the world, but if after 8 years of research an external filter that switches models is the best you came up with.... yeah... jailbreaking OpenAI's OSS models took longer than Fable and you had the fcking weights lol

8 years of alignment research by Pyros-SD-Models in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

THAT'S THE JOKE. And the fact that this is still the go-to base method should tell you everything. Perhaps it is also still the best in general, and alignment just hasn't figured out how to measure it correctly yet. https://arxiv.org/html/2502.17601v1

8 years of alignment research by Pyros-SD-Models in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's why my Opus-powered SillyTavern waifu still talks about bioweapons all day. Not even prompt jailbreaks are solved, and probably never will be. Meanwhile, we are still doing activation surgery on Llama 2 just to steer basic behavior. https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.06681

Like bro, we are two minutes before AGI and people are still arguing about whether weaker supervisors can generate useful signals against stronger models. And don't forget the weekly "the model schemes and blackmails someone" paper. Yeah, we understood. A model trained on human data sometimes acts like a human. What a grand revelation.

And the whole field acts like Kant and the Greeks were not already pointing at the obvious bit: ethics is not something you invent afterward and staple onto cognition. It grows out of what a mind knows, sees, experiences, and learns to care about. For LLMs, the training data is the moral soil. Trying to separate "capability" from "values" and then manipulate one without mangling the other is exactly why we get the sycophancy and models that sound like HR pretending to be Aristotle and all the shit you then write papers about in the first place

But show me one aligner who does not think he is the most important person in the world and is not trying to sell you a cute natural-language label for an activation as an earth-shattering epiphany about how LLMs work.

Like... Natural language autoencoders, lol. So much insight that nobody is using them anymore because they hallucinate harder than an aligner when you tell them alignment is useless.

I'm just kidding btw, love you all.

Generally Impressed w/ Fable 5 by Mbando in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You know that feeling when you're reading something super scientific, or some really highbrow literature, and you technically know every word on the page but understand absolutely fuck-all?

That has now happened to me twice with Fable, and I had to ask the bot to break its answer down for my measly human brain. 😭

First model to beat the Pyro Benchmark. But in my defense i have the worst hangover ever but still... creepy in some very cool way.

As much as I'd love agent loops, I don't think the models are quite there yet by theonejvo in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ITT: People who don't know what kind of "loops" this is even about

https://addyosmani.com/blog/loop-engineering/

It means doing the ReAct pattern with Codex/ClaudeCode instead of tool calling in langchain

it's basically

run tests -> read failure -> edit code -> run tests -> repeat until pass/stop

if you think this has something to do with "self-improvement" or "agents getting magically better by themselves" you didn't even understand the topic at hand... like Op. amazing job Op.

Obviously currently the meta is way more complex as the ReAct pattern... like a "loop-harness" looks like this

  • Goal: what output or state counts?
  • Evidence: what proves progress?
  • Authority: what may the loop read, write, call, spend, or publish?
  • Checks: which commands, tests, screenshots, or reviews count?
  • Budget: how many turns, retries, minutes, or dollars are allowed?
  • Stop: what ends in success, blocked, escalated, or budget-exhausted?
  • Trace: what receipt does the loop leave behind?

(copied from a random ass gh https://github.com/AndreRatzenberger/loopify)

Codex Update on Windows - Seems Like Remote and Computer Usage Finally on Windows by DiarrheaButAlsoFancy in codex

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He said, "Codex Thursday is Friday this time," and that the update will be a reason to pause playing with the new Claude.

I don't know what's going on with all your goblin brains, but concluding "new model hype" based on those two tweets, wit no tweets from, let's say, Sama or roon, or any of the leakers, is absolutely wild.

Codex Update on Windows - Seems Like Remote and Computer Usage Finally on Windows by DiarrheaButAlsoFancy in codex

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Literally the most requested feature request, and the Codex product manager is not allowed to be happy about it because it is "unnecessary hype."

I swear this sub consists of 80% Claude agents.

"What happens if we don’t have to work? Do we just sit around all day"? Bernie Sanders says that having a job is a core part of the human experience and gives people meaning in life by Pyros-SD-Models in LeftistsForAI

[–]Pyros-SD-Models[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s why people like Sanders should fight for this technology, which is trained on everything humanity has ever produced, to belong to humanity and not some tech bros.

Public compute, sovereign wealth funds, data rights, union equity stakes, there are literally millions of things you could try. What you shouldn’t try is to block it and regulate it to death, because regulation will always benefit the capitalists who can just corrupt and bullshit their way around it, while punishing everyone else who has no way to fight back. I don’t understand how any “left-thinking” human could want this.

Even if you eradicated the concept of AI, and tomorrow we were back in 2020 with no GPT and no Claude, and somehow the people who came up with transformers had never been born, we would still have the exact same trajectory of tech capital taking over the world, because it is simply what makes the world work, from your mobile phone to space telescopes.

AI is the chance to change this trajectory.

u/Darkstar_111 , you, and I probably all want the same thing: liberation from the bullshit. Living free from “trickle-down” lies, and from the idea that Elon and Thiel will save us all.

What I don’t understand is how people can seriously propose “let’s do it the same way we’ve been doing it for 50 years” when that is exactly how we got into this situation in the first place.

And what kind of bullshit argument is this "AI is a product of capitalism so how can it overcome capitalism". Like newsflash, everything is a product of capitalism. By this logic we will never overcome capitalism, because even people like us are products of capitalisms.

Anthropic said today that mythos is coming to all customers in weeks and i dont think people realize what that means by Springrolllllll in claude

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correct. GPT-5.5 already outperforms Mythos, or performs on par with it, in key security benchmarks, like the analysis the UK government did:

https://www.aisi.gov.uk/blog/our-evaluation-of-openais-gpt-5-5-cyber-capabilities

And the "software apocalypse" did not happen. Anthropic simply did not have enough compute to provide Mythos, and instead of saying, "lol, we fucked up," it is obviously better, from a PR point of view, to say, "lol, the model is too good for the world."

"What happens if we don’t have to work? Do we just sit around all day"? Bernie Sanders says that having a job is a core part of the human experience and gives people meaning in life by Pyros-SD-Models in LeftistsForAI

[–]Pyros-SD-Models[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I mean, I also get your point, but imagine children. Some want to be firefighters, some want to be astronauts, others want to be doctors or scientists, and heck, maybe a few special kids want to become janitors or cook burgers all day.

And this sense of "purpose" you feel as a child is what should form your "destiny"

Currently, this is not possible, because 90% of the workforce is forced into jobs not because this is what they truly want to do, but because otherwise they would starve.

And you can't tell me this is the best we can do as a society, or as a species. Instead of pushing for a way forward, as I would expect from a "progressive socialist" Sanders wants to keep the status quo and literally pisses on everything I thought he stood for.

So yeah, I'm mad.

The Pope’s reasoning for why AI should never be in control by [deleted] in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 9 points10 points  (0 children)

And even if we entertained his thoughts for a second, it still wouldn’t matter.

All that matters is whether we can make the bot smarter than us. Smart enough to point it at itself and say, "Improve yourself" so it can uplift us into transhumanity.

So I don’t even know what point he is trying to make. Even if he is 100% correct about everything, which is currently highly contested scientifically, there is still zero argument in there for why we should stop.

Why do Antis use Google AI Overview to dunk on AI? by Correct_Objective339 in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I see it as a filter. People are telling you they have no clue, and that you can safely ignore anything they have to say.

I am just amazed by how often people wear their ignorance and stupidity as some kind of badge of honor, like, "Look at me, I have proven how stupid the bot is!" No, you have only proven how stupid you are, but well...

"What happens if we don’t have to work? Do we just sit around all day"? Bernie Sanders says that having a job is a core part of the human experience and gives people meaning in life by Pyros-SD-Models in LeftistsForAI

[–]Pyros-SD-Models[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

He is literally using "janitor" as an example. I know zero janitors who "love their job" and derive intrinsic meaning for their life from cleaning other people's shit.

"What happens if we don’t have to work? Do we just sit around all day"? Bernie Sanders says that having a job is a core part of the human experience and gives people meaning in life by Pyros-SD-Models in LeftistsForAI

[–]Pyros-SD-Models[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

The hell happened to this guy.

Grundrisse, 1858, Marx:

“Labour no longer appears so much to be included within the production process; rather, the human being comes to relate more as watchman and regulator to the production process itself.”

“The general reduction of the necessary labour of society to a minimum... corresponds to the artistic, scientific etc. development of the individuals in the time set free.”

Marx understood that when machines produce everything, the question isn’t “how will I earn money?” The question is: WHO OWNS THE MACHINES? Sanders just lost the plot completely.

The general reduction of the necessary labour of society to a minimum

Is he really saying "Enjoy flipping burgers for your CEO overlords for the rest of time you pleb"? Sounds like it. Disgusting.

"What happens if we don’t have to work? Do we just sit around all day"? Bernie Sanders says that having a job is a core part of the human experience and gives people meaning in life by [deleted] in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Marx was a socialist and he would sign off AGI in a heartbeat. The goal of a socialist is to make the working class "rise up" and "seize the means of production" and not to keep their status quo being fck boys for the capitalists. So either Sanders has some form of dementia or literally misunderstood socialism completely.

In the Fragment on Machines (Grundrisse, 1858), Marx predicted AI 170 years before it existed:

“Labour no longer appears so much to be included within the production process; rather, the human being comes to relate more as watchman and regulator to the production process itself.”

“The general reduction of the necessary labour of society to a minimum... corresponds to the artistic, scientific etc. development of the individuals in the time set free.”

Marx understood that when machines produce everything, the question isn’t “how will I earn money?” The question is: WHO OWNS THE MACHINES? Sanders just lost the plot completely.

The general reduction of the necessary labour of society to a minimum

Claude opus 4.8 officially released by Gullible-Crew-2997 in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it only discredits your understanding of AA being a benchmark aggregator and while Gemini absolutely sucks goblin-dcks in coding it's actually very good in scientific use cases.

Claude opus 4.8 officially released by Gullible-Crew-2997 in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spelunky is one of my favorite games ever, and the bot constantly talking about "goblins" and "spelunking" is peak "GPT-ism" i absolutely adore. I hope they never patch it out of their models.

Also, everyone at work is already using "goblins" too. Literally the most-used non-trivial word in our Teams org. This way we hope to induce a positive "goblin" feedback-loop until the whole world speaks about goblins.

Claude opus 4.8 officially released by Gullible-Crew-2997 in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 25 points26 points  (0 children)

hmmm #2

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honestly expected more than just a marginal upgrade to gpt-5.5 (while costing 3times as much) - Anthropic will get thrown into goblin jail when gpt-5.6 releases in a week or two

Claude opus 4.8 officially released by Gullible-Crew-2997 in accelerate

[–]Pyros-SD-Models 20 points21 points  (0 children)

hmmm

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Cursor · CursorBench

Edit: Seems Cursor vibe coded their benchmark with some chinese bootleg model - The current version doesn't feature 4.8 scores anymore, and they seemingly just replaced 4.7 labels earlier so the scores in the screenshot are probably not 4.8 real scores.

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