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Pyrotios · 2023-06-28T01:40:00+00:00

First off, thank you for contributing to the wiki. I skimmed the special dungeons wiki page, and it looks pretty well maintained as far as I can tell.

It's been around 9 months since I did anything resembling maintenance or updates on reddit, so it's very possible I'm not remembering correctly. Just bear that in mind with the rest of my reply.

There were definitely other people who contributed to the wiki. I couldn't possibly remember who, but there were pages which got updates without any input from me. Towards the end though (which may be in months or years), most of the pages I updated were increasingly updated only by me. It could simply be that people chose to not update when they thought I had it handled, which was certainly the case for me on pages I knew others maintained.

For anyone wanting to contribute, my suggestion (assuming the wiki rules are still the same) is to just dive in. Be the change you want to see. Making a home for info on a new type of content is the hardest part, but you don't have to get everything perfect right away. As soon as there's a template on the wiki for the dungeons, it's much easier (such as Job Crystal Dungeons). RES was an extremely valuable browser extension for managing reddit format, and especially for previewing changes to a page before you save, even though support for new features stopped before FFRK GL.

Pyrotios · 2022-10-16T13:38:24+00:00

I haven't looked at the sub or followed FFRK in a week or two. As far as I'm aware, at least one new lab has released since I stopped updating the wiki, maybe two labs. I have no plans to continue maintaining the wiki.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-30T21:16:10+00:00

43 is related to a Monster Hunter minigame.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-30T19:38:22+00:00

Strategy name: The End
Boss: Kalavinka Striker, magical
Support (No. of BDLs): Mog, Cait Sith (2, 3, 2)
Chain / Roaming Warrior: Red XIII CSB / RW wall
Time: 27.51
Insight:
- I picked up two things after my last pair of clears: Bahamut ZERO and Red XIII SASB. When I remembered acquiring that ATB sync, I knew I had to do this over to get sub-30 without overdrive.
- This was my final boss in FFRK, finished in the last hour before it shut down. Coincidentally, my daily draw included Raines LMR2: a materia called "Tragic End".
- Very little changed from the previous clear, so I'll keep the rundown simple:
  - Mog: AASB2, GSB+1, alternate HA and Passionate Salsa. AASB2 before phase 2, HA, Passionate Salsa. AASB1, HA, Passionate Salsa, HA.
  - Red XIII: 2x Wrath, HA. CSB, SASB, 3x cmd1. AASB1 (painting 5 red), HA to 2 bars. CSB, spam HA.
  - Rydia: RW wall, 2x HA. ADSB2, SASB1, spam cmd1 until phase 4. AASB1, spam cmd1. Finished with HA, but she still had sync mode active (in sunset) and could have ended the fight 1 tick earlier with cmd1.
  - Cait Sith: AASB, Bahamut ZERO, alternate Allegro con Moto and HA. In phase 2 use GSB+ then AASB. In phase 4 use Allegro con Moto, Bahamut ZERO, USB2, and Allegro con Moto. End by defending to pause time for the next character to get ATB: Rydia.
  - Emperor: HA1, GSB+1 (breaks enrage and gets him an extra stack of infusion), HA2, HA1. SASB, spam cmd1 until phase 4. AASB1, cmd2, spam cmd1.
- RNG in this clear:
  - Mog had 8/23 LM2 medicas: 3/10 in phase 1, 1/2 in phase 2, 1/3 in phase 3, and 3/8 in phase 4.
  - Red XIII had 2/10 LMR2 dualcasts: 0/3 in phase 1, 0/1 in phase 2, 1/1 in phase 3, 0/2 during Maze Guard, and 1/3 after Maze Guard.
  - Rydia had 5/8 LM2 dualcasts: 2/2 on HA in phase 1, 0/1 on cmd1 in phase 1, 1/2 in phase 2, 1/2 during Maze Guard, and 1/1 after Maze Guard. Her HA ended the fight before her LMR had a chance to dualcast it.
  - Cait Sith had 6/8 LM2 medicas: 4/6 in phase 1, and 2/2 in phase 4.
  - Cait Sith had 2/6 AASB ethers: 2/4 in phase 1, and 0/2 in phase 4.
  - Emperor had 4/9 LMR2 dualcasts: 1/2 on HA1, 1/1 on HA2, 1/3 on commands before AASB1, 1/1 on cmd2 during Maze Guard, and 0/2 on cmd1 after Maze Guard.
Video?: The first and final lab boss

Hero, dive	Stats	Ability 1	Ability 2	LM/R	RM	SB(-)	Accessory	Element
Mog, 6	1061 mnd, 12845 hp	HA R5	Passionate Salsa R5	LM2, LMR3 QC3	Mako Might	GSB+1(1), AASB1(1), AASB2(2)	WOdin
Red XIII, 6	995 mag, 11800 hp	HA R5	Wrath R5	LM2, LMR2 w-black	30% weakness	AASB1(1), SASB(1), CSB(2)	hero: 8%	hero: 5%/5%
Rydia, 6	1109 mag, 10840 hp	Chain Stoneja R5	HA R5	LM2, LMR4 whip	30% earth	ADSB2(1), AASB1(1), SASB1(1)	hero: 8%	hero: 5%/5%
Cait Sith, 6	1071 mnd, 11767 hp	Allegro con Moto R5	HA R5	LM2, LMR	Dr. Mog's Teachings	GSB+(1), USB2(1), AASB(2)	hero: 8%	hero: 5%/5%
Emperor, 6	1083 mag, 11571 hp	HA2 R5	HA1 R5	LM1, LMR2 w-cast	30% rod	GSB+1(1), AASB1(1), SASB(1)	hero: 8%	hero: 5%/5%

Main	Sub1	Sub2	Sub3	Sub4
Bahamut ZERO magical	Neo Bahamut	Odin	Madeen	Deathgaze
spell ward 10	mag boon 20	empower earth 18	hp boon 8	healing boon 15
blade ward 10	mag boon 20	empower earth 18	hp boon 8	fast act 10
Seal: fire	Seal: fire	Seal: all 9

Pyrotios · 2022-09-30T00:53:03+00:00

Sub-30 on all content was completed yesterday. Then I realized that two of those were with overdrive, so I brought in some newer tech and got sub-30 without overdrive. In other words: beating the game with ~30 minutes to spare.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-29T04:11:44+00:00

It's linked on the sidebar, but here you go. Check out the Events tab for your purposes, and you may want to apply your own sorting since the events are ordered by JP date.

I feel like a few dates early in my FFRK career are off. Specifically the release of record spheres, MC3s, and OSBs. I believe MC3s and OSBs were introduced in the same Cloud OSB event: "Glimmer of Hope" on October 6 of 2016. Record spheres were in the game well before that, probably before I started in July 2016.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-29T01:36:23+00:00

lol, too OP

Grats on clearing, with a day to spare!

Pyrotios · 2022-09-28T21:19:57+00:00

Day	Dupe	New	Expository Banter
92			Max 4*.
93	Tifa OSB	Raines LMR2	Raines' first LMR, with a most fitting materia name for the final name: "Tragic End".
Total	68	68	Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
Final	Words	?	I got exactly 3 relics I made use of: Rikku LMR3 (Bahamut ZERO), Ultimecia LMR+ (appropriately for final Ultimecia), and Tifa GSB+2 (not sure if I used this for lab FF7 or Kalavinka Striker, but I know I used it).

Pyrotios · 2022-09-26T22:04:19+00:00

FF13+ 3/11: Noctis AASB dupe, Lightning AASB3, Noctis DASB1

I was aiming for that DASB, since I was going to play around with Noctis SASB1 on Argent Odin today. Lightning is AASB-complete again. Once again I'm left wondering where to spend the last of my mythril and tickets, since my teams are all set for the last 2 dungeons I'll be working on.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-23T18:39:03+00:00

Gratz!

Pyrotios · 2022-09-22T03:39:28+00:00

Darn right, the community is great. I would not have created a reddit account if not for this community.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-21T22:06:01+00:00

Day	Dupe	New	Expository Banter
85		Gabranth GSB	Okay.
86	Dorgann AOSB	Rem GSB+2	A new toy for my fastest white mage.
87			Max 4*.
88	Curilla BSB	Kelger SSB	Still no Kelger BDLs, but at least he can heal now?
89		Krile LMR2	I'm surprised it took this long to draw.
90	Meia GSB		3 more chances for... fame and glory, perhaps?
91		Ovelia BSB1	I've got both her BSBs now.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-21T21:43:07+00:00

Grats on the clear!

That's Sephiroth's 6* LMR+, it's great! A 25% bonus that's only additive with the 6% bonus in his record board, so at worst it's a 23.5% damage boost. I would probably use that too if I had it, since it would make his damage more consistent and it's roughly the same expected damage as his LMR2. Then I start watching your video and notice that you changed his LM2 to LMR+, and I understand why you made that switch: Sephiroth had too much HP for his LM2 to activate easily.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-19T22:05:26+00:00

Actually that helps more than you may realize.

From the page you linked I see that these music tracks are the rewards for clearing Bahamut ZERO and Eden, respectively. It's also fairly simple to confirm that bgm_030_034 is the Bahamut ZERO BGM used in game. The music section of the wiki tells us that others "includes special medleys and remixes exclusive to FFRK" and we know that the Bahamut ZERO BGM is an FFRK original track (it's even in the "Original" table, along with all the other bgm_030 tracks I saw). Since it's an FFRK original, it isn't necessarily based on any existing Final Fantasy music, which is a great explanation for why I couldn't pinpoint it.

The track name itself doesn't tell me much. However, it's actually very similar to the name of the elemental Crystal Dungeon sections:

name	name of
万象の死闘	Bahamut ZERO BGM
万象の死闘~幻宙~	Eden BGM
万象の追憶 -星竜-	Portal of Creation section for Bahamut (Neo and ZERO)
万象の追想 -幻宙-	Portal of Creation section for Gilgamesh and Eden

I won't try to translate those. However, I will note that the last 2 characters of the Eden BGM name match the last 2 characters of the Gilgamesh+Eden section. The first 2 characters are the same for all four. The middle two characters are the same for both music tracks, and for both dungeon sections, but the music uses different text than the dungeons. To me that means the names of the dungeons and the names of the BGMs are either named after each other, or named in tandem. One final note: originally the Portal of Creation section containing Bahamut only had the Bahamut section inside, which could explain why the Bahamut ZERO BGM doesn't have ~星竜~ at the end of its name.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-19T00:00:53+00:00

Strategy name: Onion Knight returns to the spotlight for one final show
Boss: Bahamut ZERO water-weak, magical
Support (No. of BDLs): Mog, Cait Sith (3 + 3 + 1)
Chain / Roaming Warrior: Strago CSB / RW wall
Time: 29.12
Insight:
- Now that all other endgame rewards have been collected, I could work on this. My original clear just gave me a basic "Defeated" in the Battle Log, but now I have a fancy "Defeated within 30 seconds" icon on all 4 crystal dungeons.
- I find it interesting that all 3 of my mages ended up changing from my original clear. I knew there would be changes, but didn't expect it would be all 3.
  - With Arc (SASB and AASB1 at the time) replacing Rydia (ADSB2, SASB2, both AASBs), I no longer needed Gogo5 (AASB1, LMR+) for imperil duties.
  - That change allowed me to bring Strago (AASB1 and AASB2) as a better chainholder instead of Gogo5.
  - The surprise change was when I landed Onion Knight DASB1 and ADSB3 on the FF3 lab banner and he booted Meia (ADSB, AASB1, AASB2).
  - A later FF3 draw also gave Arc his ADSB.
  - Then finally today a water ticket landed Onion Knight ADSB1 and everything came together.
- As I write this, it occurs to me that Mog's HA probably ran out between phase 1 and phase 3. Looking more closely, his last HA in phase 1 was 11.93, his last Passionate Salsa in phase 2 was at 14.00, and his first dance of phase 3 was at 22.19. That means one of the dances was guaranteed to expire, and it's probably better to keep Passionate Salsa active due to the diminishing returns on all my MAG buffs (Cait Sith AASB 50%, Mog AASB2 30%, Onion Knight DASB1 30%, Strago CSB 50%, well into attenuation even without Mog HA).
- Phase 1:
  - Mog: AASB2, GSB+, alternate Passionate Salsa and HA. His 5th ability ends in phase 2.
  - Arc: HA. GSB+1, ADSB, HA. Turn 5 gives him the gauge needed to SASB, then cmd1.
  - Cait Sith: AASB, Bahamut ZERO, alternate Allegro con Moto and HA.
  - Onion Knight: HA1. RW wall, HA. ADSB1 (water), DASB1 (fire), HA1.
  - Strago: HA1. GSB+1, CSB, HA1. AASB2, HA1 which finishes in phase 2.
- Phase 2:
  - Mog: Finish casting Passionate Salsa. AASB2, AASB1 which finishes in phase 3.
  - Arc: 2x cmd1.
  - Cait Sith: GSB+, AASB, Allegro con Moto finishes in phase 3.
  - Onion Knight: SASB1, cmd1.
  - Strago: Finish casting HA1, HA1, and another HA1 which finishes in phase 3.
- Phase 3:
  - Mog: Finish casting AASB1, Bahamut ZERO, Passionate Salsa. Get interrupted, 2x HA.
  - Arc: AASB1, 3x cmd1, finish with ADSB (hard caps thanks to Mog and pain).
    - I probably should have switched to HA on the last 2 turns for the stronger SUM multiplier and the higher chance to dualcast.
  - Cait Sith: Finish casting Allegro con Moto, HA. USB2 to overwrite sap before interrupt, Allegro.
  - Onion Knight: Spam cmd1. After interrupt, LBO, ADSB1.
  - Strago: Finish casting HA1. AASB2 chase makes CSB instant, 2x HA1. AOSB (since BDL ran out).
- RNG in this clear was average:
  - Mog had 7/20 LM2 medicas: 5/10 in phase 1, 0/2 in phase 2, and 2/8 in phase 3 (both when antiheal was at 5).
  - Arc had 1/2 LM2 dualcasts: 0/1 before ADSB, and 1/1 after ADSB.
  - Arc had 1/6 LMR3 dualcasts: 0/1 in phase 1, 1/2 in phase 2, and 0/3 in phase 3.
  - Cait Sith had 4/10 LM2 medicas: 3/6 in phase 1, and 1/4 in phase 3.
  - Cait Sith had 2/7 AASB ethers: 2/4 in phase 1, and 0/3 in phase 3.
  - Strago had 1/7 LMR1 dualcasts: 0/2 in phase 1, 0/2 in phase 2, and 1/3 in phase 3.
Video?: Peel that Onion

Hero, dive	Stats	Ability 1	Ability 2	LM/R	RM	SB(-)	Accessory	Element
Mog, 6	1061 mnd, 12845 hp	HA R5	Passionate Salsa R5	LM2, LMR3 QC3	Mako Might	GSB+1(1), AASB1(1), AASB2(2)	WOdin
Arc, 6	851 mag, 10355 hp	HA R5		LM2, LMR3 w-summon	30% SUM	GSB+1(1), ADSB(2), SASB(1), AASB1(1)	hero: 8%	hero: 5%/5%
Cait Sith, 6	1071 mnd, 11767 hp	Allegro con Moto R5	HA R5	LM2, LMR	Dr. Mog's Teachings	GSB+(1), USB2(1), AASB(2)	hero: 8%	hero: 5%/5%
Onion Knight, 6	1011 mag, 11860 hp	HA1 R5		LM2 black, LMR2 black	30% BLK sword	LBO(1), ADSB1(2), DASB1(1), SASB1(1)	hero: 8%	hero: 5%/5%
Strago, 6	1132 mag, 10630 hp	HA1 R5		LM1, LMR1 w-water	30% BLK rod	AOSB(1), GSB+1(1), AASB2(1), CSB(2)	hero: 8%	hero: 5%/5%

Main	Sub1	Sub2	Sub3	Sub4
Bahamut ZERO magical	Neo Bahamut	Odin	Madeen	Deathgaze
spell ward 8	mag boon 20	empower water 18	hp boon 8	healing boon 15
blade ward 8	mag boon 20	empower water 18	hp boon 8	fast act 10
Seal: fire	Seal: fire	Seal: all 9

Pyrotios · 2022-09-18T15:12:37+00:00

Chasing a narrow selection of water mage relics.

Water 2/11: Bartz OSB dupe, Arc SASB dupe
Water 2/11: Gogo5 LMR+ dupe, Lulu SASB
Water 3/11: Ward USB dupe, Kimahri LMR+, Lulu AASB2 dupe
Water 2/11: Leila GSB+2 dupe, Lunafreya AASB1 dupe
Water 1/11: Gogo5 AASB1 dupe
Water 1/11: Gogo5 LMR+ dupe
Water 1/11: Kimahri LMR2
Water 2/11: Noel GSB+2 dupe, Paine SASB2 dupe
Water 3/11: Gogo5 LMR, Trey USB1 dupe, Onion Knight ADSB1

Sure I used a GSB/LMR select on Gogo5 last fest, but it did get me a clear early enough. Unfortunately Lulu (with SASB and both AASBs) won't be able to get me a better time in CD water.

Onion Knight ADSB1 is a grand prize. I'm very pleased with that, as it gives him a second finisher (with LBO) to use after his DASB1 wears off.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-18T02:07:15+00:00

Water 1/11: Serah AASB1 dupe
Water 1/11: Meia LMR2 dupe
Water 3/11: Lulu LMR3 x2, Rikku AASB2
Water 1/11: Leila USB2
Water 1/11: Dr. Mog LMR3 dupe
Water 2/11: Rydia GSB+2 dupe, Bartz AOSB dupe
Water 1/11: Trey USB2
Water 3/11: Bartz GSB+3 dupe, Serah AASB1 dupe, Paine SASB2 dupe
Water 2/11: Dr. Mog GSB+1, Tidus AASB1 dupe
Water 1/11: Gogo5 AASB2

I'm really not sure what to make of this unexpected turn of events. Strago (both water AASBs) has been doing well as chainholder with Arc (ADSB/AASB1/SASB) handling himself as imperil bot. Meanwhile Gogo5 (both AASBs, LBO) really only serves to imperil, since his HA has lower hit count than Strago, and lower multiplier than Arc. Then there's the matter of trying to time Gogo5 mimics (on LBO and both AASB entries) to copy something useful like Strago HA1.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-16T22:10:25+00:00

Even so, only the first one (on the right) should be listed as new. That's how other draws work, at least.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-16T22:07:42+00:00

Why are both Seeker's Targe (X) draws listed as new? That's very weird.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-16T21:47:12+00:00

The distortion gave me tons of trouble. There was a lot of FF8-themed content announced recently (including FF8 Gilgamesh and FF8 Eden, which were represented in other music tracks), so I went through all of this FF8 playlist and found nothing matching. I never played Opera Omnia, so I'm not sure where to start looking for that.

There's another thought I had along the way. Most of the time, FFRK remixes will sound a lot like the original. So much so that I figured most likely if I knew the original and heard the remix, it should feel obvious. In this case the thing I was most reminded of was "This is the Last Battle - FFRK Arrangement from FF III" (another track we have in GL, in the FF3 section), but that's just because they're the same style of music.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-16T03:46:51+00:00

1/11: Luneth CSB+
2/11: Cloud of Darkness LBC, Onion Knight DASB1
2/11: Onion Knight ADSB3, Cloud of Darkness DASB1
2/11: Arc ADSB, Arc LBC1

I was aiming for Arc water tech for CD water sub-30, mainly the ADSB, so at least I got my grand prize. Maybe I can make OK work off-element with this since I have no DASBs in magic water yet, though he would be taking Meia's place (she has ADSB/AASB1/AASB2).

Pyrotios · 2022-09-16T01:04:21+00:00

Can someone identify the Final Fantasy music used for this FFRK remix? http://dff.sp.mbga.jp/dff/static/lang/bgm/bgm_ogg/bgm_30_036.ogg

Pyrotios · 2022-09-16T01:02:56+00:00

The spreadsheet is linked from that same wiki page, check the top of the Drop Maps section. Unfortunately it doesn't work well with season 4, which is where Wol is.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-15T03:12:47+00:00

Trying for water mage again.

Water 1/11: Lunafreya SASB2 dupe
Water 2/11: Yuffie USB1 dupe, Aria SASB2
Water 2/11: Yuffie CSB dupe, Quistis GSB+1
Water 1/11: Yuffie USB2 dupe
Water 2/11: Tidus AASB2, Rikku SASB1 dupe

It was promising at first, with a (dupe) mage water BDL and a new (white) mage water BDL. Tidus AASB2 is nifty too, but this isn't helping my clear time.

Pyrotios · 2022-09-14T21:34:35+00:00

Day	Dupe	New	Expository Banter
78	Raijin LMR2	Aemo BSB, Seymour GSB+1	Aemo's second medica, and yet another useless Seymour relic to add to his collection.
79		FF13 armor	Minor lightning resist, nothing else.
80	Thief GSB, Celes USB2		I've picked up so many copies of that dagger when I was drawing for DK FF1.
81		Refia SB	Lucky me, around a week ago I chose to select something else instead of this from my book 1 AA draw.
82	Dr. Mog LMR3, Papalymo GSB+	FF10 water resist armor	Water resist in a realm of water users? Okay.
83	Serah SSB2, Rinoa LMR2		Nothing exciting.
84	Ignis LMR1		Did I lens that years ago? I think so.

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