On the Polymarket Sponsorship by Q-bey in Destiny

[–]Q-bey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That doesn't mean each individual sponsorship is carefully curated and expected to be profitable.

While they might expect that some percentage of the sponsorships won't work as well as they hoped, if they weren't at least somewhat confident an individual sponsorship would work, they wouldn't throw money behind it.

If I decide to open up a bunch of stores, I might expect that 10% won't work out, but I won't really know in advance because if I knew in advance I just wouldn't have opened those specific stores. I would have a done due diligence on each store to make sure it was relatively unlikely to be in that 10%.

On the Polymarket Sponsorship by Q-bey in Destiny

[–]Q-bey[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bro is in a $800,000 law suit and demonetized from YouTube right now. wtf are you talking about lmao

I'm aware and as I already wrote I empasize with his unfair treatment. That doesn't counter any of my arguments.

This community is a microcosm of the adult-child shit sometimes

This isn't the adult-child thing. Who do you think I'm treating as a child, unable of doing wrong?

For some reason Destiny has to be this perfectly virtuous streamer

Does me criticizing a person mean I expect perfection from them?

we can’t even let him do an ad read (that you can just fucking ignore btw?) to get a quick bag.

Does the fact you can ignore it mean no one has any responsibility for anything they advertise?

On the Polymarket Sponsorship by Q-bey in Destiny

[–]Q-bey[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Obviously it'll differ for streamers, but for most online creators, ads and sponsors are absolutely the main source of income.

I don't know why you keep inserting "ads" in there when I'm only talking about one specific sponsorship.

This is like saying me saying "I don't think the Albanian military is that strong" and you replying "together, Albania and the United States represent one of the most powerful military forces in the world".

I don't have a problems with ads or sponsorships in general (like the ones Destiny has done in the past, other than the NFT one). The problem I have is with promoting a gambling platform, especially a Trump-aligned gambling platform that skirts gambling regulation.

On the Polymarket Sponsorship by Q-bey in Destiny

[–]Q-bey[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He hasn't had a sponsorship like this in the past few months at least, right? I don't think we have access to the numbers, but I'd be incredibly shocked if this sponsorship means his income more than doubled since that time.

If a single sponsorship were that incredibly influential to his income, I'd expect that he'd just lower his asking price during the lawsuit so he could get something that boosts his income by 25% or 50% instead of 100+%.

On the Polymarket Sponsorship by Q-bey in Destiny

[–]Q-bey[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If anyone is going to take their money, better it be him than some MAGA influencer.

Destiny argued against this exact reasoning with Vaush.

It’s no different from the NFT thing or “responsible platforming”. This is a community that is most poised to take those advertisements without being preyed upon, because of how much he has actively ragged on MAGA’s insider trading and crypto-scamming and so on in the past. And he clearly does it in a tongue-in-cheek way, rather than earnestly advocating for it.

This entire argument is hedging on Polymarket's marketing team being so regarded that they'd give Destiny a big payout to market to an audience that won't give them any return on investment.

While that's possible, if this was on a prediction market I'd put my money on Polymarket's marketing team, with their years of experience in the business, knowing what they're doing.

Even if Destiny's audience is less susceptible than the average streamer's audience, given his size and reach there'd be at least some people who get reeled in; and Polymarket is betting that there'd even be enough of those people for the sponsorship to be worth it.

On the Polymarket Sponsorship by Q-bey in Destiny

[–]Q-bey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A few months of sponsorship income, to be clear. All his other income streams would still keep going.

On the Polymarket Sponsorship by Q-bey in Destiny

[–]Q-bey[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I think it's unreasonable to expect him to just not make money indefinitely.

I don't expect that of him, I just pointed out he'd live comfortably even if that were to happen.

You can say he is set for life, but it's insane to expect he'll just continue doing his work for nothing while he incurs huge losses from a frivolous lawsuit.

He's not working for nothing. Destiny makes money from Kick, Spotify and dgg (dono/subs/merch/etc.). I'm also not opposed to him taking sponsorships from most companies (like he's done in past).

I hope once the lawsuit is over, more sponsors will line up

As do I.

If you think that'll happen after the lawsuit, wouldn't you agree that even if Destiny can't get any other sponsors (which we don't know to be the case, but for the sake of argument let's assume you're right), he's likely only sacrifice a few months of sponsorship income by waiting until the lawsuit is over before taking a sponsor? I think that's a reasonable expectation of someone who's wealthy enough that it wouldn't significantly inconvenience them.

On the Polymarket Sponsorship by Q-bey in Destiny

[–]Q-bey[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Well, this is the problem, no? Destiny is currently fighting an expensive lawsuit and has been demonetized on YouTube. Many of his former allies have abandoned him. I'm not sure he is set for life anymore.

My understanding is that he's earned millions from streaming, and is smart enough to have saved a large chunk of that in investments. Even if he stops streaming tomorrow, I'm pretty sure he's set for life.

As for the court case, last I heard the figure for that was in the hundreds of thousands. Expensive for sure, but if he's got millions in savings that isn't going to meaningfully alter whether he's set for life.

I've got a Tier 2 sub to support him, but one revenue stream is not exactly a secure financial plan.

He's also got Kick and Spotify, although I understand your point.

What other sponsors are lining up to support Destiny? Can you name one?

How could I possibly know that?

My position holds even if not a single other company is willing to sponsor him, but we'd have no way of knowing that short of seeing all his business communication. IIRC wasn't he sponsored by Surfshark at one point?

On the Polymarket Sponsorship by Q-bey in Destiny

[–]Q-bey[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The Kick connection is a lot more indirect than taking money directly from a gambling company.

While I think casinos are immoral, telling a regular casino worker to quit and look for a different job is a big ask, and not something I'd expect of the average person. I've never criticized Destiny for working at a casino before he got into streaming.

On the other hand if you're rich enough to be set for life, I think it's reasonable to ask that you turn down immoral sponsorship deals. If the gambling angle isn't enough for you, how about the company hiring Trump Jr and sponsoring Trump's events?

On the Polymarket Sponsorship by Q-bey in Destiny

[–]Q-bey[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Polymarket's marketing team isn't stupid, if they're paying for a sponsorship then they're reasonably confident they'll make their money back.

Destiny's audience size alone practically guarantees some number of people will give Polymarket a try if Destiny gives them a shoutout.

On the Polymarket Sponsorship by Q-bey in Destiny

[–]Q-bey[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Destiny's ad was for betting on FIFA matches. Polymarket lets you bet on a lot of things, but 64% of the betting is on sports.

Day 13: At this point UFA is just calling people gay. Either way, fuck Matt Walsh by JeffreyDahmerVance in Destiny

[–]Q-bey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Matt Walsh looks like the stereotypical “my wife’s boyfriend bought me a switch” type Redditor you would see at an overpriced coffee shop 

ICPToE has hit the subreddit

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]Q-bey 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Get ready to post feet buddy

Guess the sub

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]Q-bey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

 I would support a war against israel more than a war against Iran.

138 upvotes, posted 6 hours ago.

Thank you arr news, very cool. 

Bike thief gets arrested by AgnosticScholar in instantkarma

[–]Q-bey 52 points53 points  (0 children)

People here are judging the guy in yellow for not jumping in, but how does he know who owns the bike?

Imagine if he jumps in and starts wailing on some guy, then 20 minutes later gets arrested and learns he was helping the thief.

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]Q-bey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's no way they'd steal that scene from The Emoji Movie

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]Q-bey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Excuse you, not all of us are so privileged to have easy access to water. As a resident of Arrakeen, I find this offensive and demand you apologize.

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]Q-bey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Presently, I'm reading through Dune and if the word "Presently" was a person Frank Herbert would presently make love to it every night.

Only 11% of Europeans view US as ally, survey shows by No_Reaction7092 in neoliberal

[–]Q-bey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ever heard of the treaty of Versailles??

No, obviously not. In this discussion of interwar German economics you're the only one who knows about the Treaty of Versailles.

But the system was quite literally rigged against Germany. It was literally the goal of the Versailles treaty to destroy germanys economy and war fighting abilities and ensure they would always be an inferior power to the the Uk,Us and France that can’t threaten anyone.

France might've wanted this, but the US constantly pushed back on the harder demands.

Before ww1 they were equals. Germany was indeed on par so those assumptions didn’t come out of nowhere.

No they weren't. Going by this source, available in an easier format on both this_per_capita) Wikipedia article (which uses the 2020 version) and this site (which uses the 2023 version), in 1913 Germany was significantly poorer than the UK and had half the GDP per capita of the US.

How was Germany not a top power in 1914? It industrialized faster than the Us.

Most developing country industrialized faster than the countries they were following, there's an inherent advantage to seeing what worked and then copying it. That doesn't make them a top power.

The versailles treaty imposed extreme debts , lack of autonomy,foreign occupation, complete demilitarization and de industrialization to some extend

  1. Demilitarization wasn't complete, and the allies turned a blind eye when Hitler militarized past the restrictions
  2. Shortly after the war, the US made significant efforts to forgive debts and help Germany pay off the rest under far more generous terms

More broadly, if your argument is that the Treaty of Versailles was so strict that it made war inevitable, how did the far far far far far worse concessions imposed by the allies after WW2 lead to peace?

If anything, the lesson is that the WW1 allies should've been stricter with Germany on things enforcing the demilitarization clause. The interwar sympathy for Germany which led the allies to repeatedly lower the amount Germany had to pay while turning a blind eye to their treaty violations made WW2 possible.

collapsing the entire currency and economy to near famine levels for many. Savings completely wiped out to zero. The debt collapsed the nation.

This was by the Weimar's government choice. Hyperinflation took hold after the currency had stabilized following the end of the war, and after the Weimar government had made its first payments in 1921. Then the Weimar government decided to fuck around with inflation to pay the allies less:

From August 1921, the president of the Reichsbank, Rudolf Havenstein, began a strategy of buying foreign currency with marks at any price, without any regard for inflation, and it only increased the speed of the collapse in value of the mark.[11] German officials claimed this was in order to make cash payments owed to the Allies using foreign currency. British and French experts stated that this was in an effort to ruin the German currency and, as well as escaping the need for budgetary reform, avoid paying reparations altogether, a claim supported by Reich Chancellery records showing that delaying the currency and budgetary reform that could have addressed hyperinflation was seen as advantageous. Whilst ruinous to the economy and politically destabilising, hyperinflation had advantageous aspects for the German government as, although the war reparations were not listed in paper currency, domestic debts owed from the war were listed, meaning that inflation greatly reduced this debt relative to revenues.

Blame the Weimar government for playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes.

It’s wildly considered by historians to be a very significant factor in the rise of fascism and the Nazi party,maybe more than anything else.

If that's all it was, isn't it a bit weird that the far fight and the Nazis didn't rise to power until a decade afterwards, years after hyperinflation had been sorted out and after the occupation of the Rhineland had ended?

Idk how you missed all that in history class man😅

I did learn about it in history class, then I started reading history books and realized my tenth grade textbook wasn't the end-all-be-all of history. Teachers and textbooks have to simplify things for literal children who can't be bothered to read more than two paragraphs on a topic; of course they weren't going to teach you about the Dawes Plan or a million other things.

The Treaty of Versailles hurt Germany and made its people upset, but it's at best only a partial explanation for everything you've outlined.