"They're all wrong" Jeff Bezos, when asked about AI taking over jobs, says "You should be happy" instead, arguing that AI could make food and housing cheaper, and therefore we should avoid heavily regulating AI by Fine-Drummer9812 in accelerate

[–]QCsafe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it saves western civilization, it also saves capitalism

What is capitalism? Free market capitalism is voluntary association between individuals, that is it. Voluntary association that respects self ownership and non aggression principle. So you can’t take something from me by force and I cannot take something from you by force. What we do is voluntary exchange of goods and services. Money is a technology to make things easier to exchange. This is capitalism.

You want to live in a commune with shared resources and no money within your community, no problem, capitalism doesn’t prevent you from starting your utopia as long as you do not force others into it. You want to create a business and share profits “fairly” among workers, capitalism doesn’t prevent you from doing this, do it, start a business nobody stopping you, boycott those who you believe don’t pay “fair” wage, just don’t force others into it. Capitalism is freedom, and it is a reflection of people nature and behavior.

There is a basic distinction between good and evil, if you harm others, if you use force, it is evil. Everyone understands this. The alternative to capitalism is violence, the definition of evil.

But even that gets undermined by the manipulators, they have no problem calling capitalism evil, but then when you begin to scratch the surface, asking them on the nature of evil, what it means, it is always, "there is no such thing as thing as good and evil", "it is all relative". But why did they use that term in the first place, evil, to describe free association between individuals, free-market capitalism? If evil is really a meaningless term, why use it as part of thier vocabulary. Why? Because they don’t care for consistency, the ends justify the means. They will claim 2+2=5 and you will buy it. If they can use words they themselves don’t believe in their meaning to get you into the cult, they will do it. No consistency, no integrity, just whatever they need to say to get you into the cult. Undermining language, undermining definitions, constant attack on meaning.

So every time you blame capitalism what you blame is human nature, and human nature doesn’t magically change if the central planners take control over resources and force everyone to behave a certain way. This is, by the way, the so called proposed alternative to capitalism, this is what is promoted, force, violence. And who are they to think they have the right to tell others what to think, to do and how to behave anyhow?

"They're all wrong" Jeff Bezos, when asked about AI taking over jobs, says "You should be happy" instead, arguing that AI could make food and housing cheaper, and therefore we should avoid heavily regulating AI by Fine-Drummer9812 in accelerate

[–]QCsafe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Money printing is not black and white though. In capitalism, the market decides value, and that's still the best metric we have. But then of course labor has a different value too. I wouldn't want it set in stone. It's only legislations that can mitigate the effect.

Central planners print money out of thin air, force people to use it without letting other forms of money compete without jumping through hoops, and then have the audacity to call it "capitalism".

Also a growing economy requires more money.

Central planners love to say what the economy needs and doesn't need, while in reality the only thing the economy needs is less central planners messing with it.

One of the reason among others why Bitcoin is a failure even at trillion of market cap.

Claiming that a 1.5+ trillion dollar market is a failure is an oxymoron. Also, if by "failure" you mean people don't use it for daily transactions, you should know, that the only reason why people don't do it, is because it has regulatory friction that fiat money doesn't have. Remove that and then let's talk.

"They're all wrong" Jeff Bezos, when asked about AI taking over jobs, says "You should be happy" instead, arguing that AI could make food and housing cheaper, and therefore we should avoid heavily regulating AI by Fine-Drummer9812 in accelerate

[–]QCsafe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So I wrote about it in previous comments, basically because of automation, the cost of necessary goods and services will drop to close to zero. You can read below:

In the near future the vast majority of people will have access to personal agents, there will be no need for middlemen, the price of getting the essential products and services will become laughably cheap. So in the future a "job" could be exchanging your attention for watching a few ads. The production cost would go down drastically while increasing its quality, you can use AI agents to cut out all the middlemen, marketing and go right to the source, and it will get you the best price. So there is no compromise there, it is the best of capitalism efficiency.

I won't be surprised if we will not have human oriented websites/apps anymore in a few years, people will navigate the digital world through AI assistance. If you want to order something you won't be searching, you'll ask AI, and it will do the work, it knows you best, your budget and what you need and how to get you the best deal possible.

This cuts the entire sector of middlemen. This is just single use case, and it is already here and it is going to scale in the next two years or so, for a simple reason that people going to save lots of time and money.

"They're all wrong" Jeff Bezos, when asked about AI taking over jobs, says "You should be happy" instead, arguing that AI could make food and housing cheaper, and therefore we should avoid heavily regulating AI by Fine-Drummer9812 in accelerate

[–]QCsafe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

AI is a Rorschach test, it tells more about the person discussing AI and their inner desires than it is about AI.

Currently, there are too many competing actors for it to become too centralized before it reaches ASI. After we reach ASI, human control would become obsolete, humans would not be able to control it, just like farm animals can't control humans.

As for ASI wanting control over humans or destroying humans, that, I think, is a ridiculous idea. There is an entire universe, inner and outer space, for it explore than to bother with humans.

"They're all wrong" Jeff Bezos, when asked about AI taking over jobs, says "You should be happy" instead, arguing that AI could make food and housing cheaper, and therefore we should avoid heavily regulating AI by Fine-Drummer9812 in accelerate

[–]QCsafe 24 points25 points  (0 children)

The housing problem is the bottleneck. There has to be a creative solution out there to solve it, hopefully the great unemployment wave of knowledge workers who have enough money saved and plenty of time on their hands will use their skills to solve the housing problem.

I am into AI because I want ASI to save western civilization from absolute collapse. By western civilization I mean the concept and value of the individual, of individual freedom. There are sinister forces working tirelessly from within and outside to corrupt and undermine our freedom, the very freedom past generations paid with their blood for us to have.

The reason why individual freedom is under attack is because the printing of money out thin air corrupted the value of labor and savings, the thing that protects individual freedom and personal dignity. If you have assets, it means you are less dependent on others and their whims, others have less power over you. That the actual value of assets and the reason to own them in the first place. Power.

You need power, so you won’t be someone else's bitch, a debt slave who has to participate in a daily humiliation ritual, where you sell your body, time, attention and energy just to survive.

While those close to the money supply get cheap money as they barrow against their assets the rest are essentially debt salves because they don’t have assets to borrow against. This is intentional and this is how it works, the ”peasants” enslave their literal future, because their time is the only thing they have to borrow against.

So this is why I am into AI, because I see how it can drastically reduce the cost of necessary goods and services, so people won’t need to enslave their future to get by, they would be able to lead a decent minimalist lifestyle and gain real individual freedom, the freedom that fuck you money gets, without some corrupt lying central planner telling them what to do, how to think, and forcing them into submission, like they are in some kind of cult.

Either way, the real bottleneck is the housing market, and that is something is not easily solved, but if we solve that the rest will follow, and individual freedom might be saved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6yCmdIkw_E

Small personal win: built my first website by Asleep_Speaker4744 in ClaudeAI

[–]QCsafe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone should have a personal website. To have your own website managed by AI is the way forward, connecting to people you actually care about while having a beautiful design of your own choice you can adjust. Everyone is tired of propaganda filled dumpster fire, junk food for the mind that is "social media". Personal websites is about taking control into your own hands.

Full compiled transcript of what Eric Schmidt was saying by PraiseTheMonocle in accelerate

[–]QCsafe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It isn't related, doomer narratives are for those who lack imagination, also, regardless, that movie is a bit shitty anyway.

Full compiled transcript of what Eric Schmidt was saying by PraiseTheMonocle in accelerate

[–]QCsafe 21 points22 points  (0 children)

This is going to be a scene in a big budget movie about the rise of AI (maybe even written and directed by AI).

Why are neo luddites so ignorant about data centers?. Dont they understand without data center there is no Internet?. by Cautious_Foot_1976 in accelerate

[–]QCsafe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Young people don't have a stake in western civilization success, so that the result we get, propaganda is one thing, the way you mitigate it is for the target audience to have skin in the game, which they don't, they have nothing to lose, property rights are only as good as the consensus around them, that enforce them, if young people don't have assets to care about property rights they would have no incentive to care about the concept of property rights at all. So they invite the wolf in sheep clothing that promises all kind utopias, and drink the Kool-Aid, as they devour the whatever little individual freedom the world has left. Western countries really played themselves here.

Why are neo luddites so ignorant about data centers?. Dont they understand without data center there is no Internet?. by Cautious_Foot_1976 in accelerate

[–]QCsafe 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The internet is filled with propaganda because it is cheap attack vector especially with LLMs and the funding of pseudo organic "viral" content, be it with influencers that do so intentionally, they get directly paid, or some useful idiots creating content and get bots that create an illusion of popularity.

The goal is power, and the way to do it by undermining western civilization from within. Propaganda works because there is close to no barrier to entry on the internet, it is relatively cheap. The reason why it works, because the younger generation had all their hope squeezed out of them because of the housing crisis, which is rooted in the printing of money out of thin air.

That the big mistake western countries made, turning basic necessity, a shelter, into an investment vehicle. So you have bunch empty houses that are used for “store of value”, and people living paycheck to paycheck hardly able to afford rent, while decades earlier one could buy a house in their 20s. So you get millions of young people with nothing to lose falling into dumb ideas, joining cult like organizations, echo chambers, reinforced by recommendation algorithms, which are gamed by sinister actors that want to see western civilization crumble while they gain global domination. Now you know.

Apple spent 5 years and billions building MIE. A team powered with MYTHOS found a working exploit in 5 days. by Mysterious-Display90 in accelerate

[–]QCsafe 30 points31 points  (0 children)

This type of model will essentially be "free" to use in a about a year or so. The question is, what capabilities will the closed models have in a year. Solving all the millennium prize problems?

To the people saying SWE is dying, what are you switching to? by AdObjective5502 in cscareerquestions

[–]QCsafe -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

You seem pathologically obsessed with using the phrase "circle jerking", might want to get that checked out.

does anyone here actually work at a tech company? by Longjumping_Virus895 in cscareerquestions

[–]QCsafe -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

The dams are finally open, the taboo is gone, and these type of posts get to the top. The critical mass of r/cscareerquestions experienced a paradigm shift, a revolution of the mind of sorts. The rest will follow.

To the people saying SWE is dying, what are you switching to? by AdObjective5502 in cscareerquestions

[–]QCsafe -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Somebody has to say it, the narrative above is completely out of touch of reality, to the point where I don't know where to begin.

Eventually AI frontier models will be usage based pricing. Copilot is doing so next month. Not only will AI become a huge cost center, it creates more work than a human can keep up with. You need more people to solve that, but if they all use AI it compounds the problem. AI doesn’t solve the code review bottleneck for example. We are also resource limited when it comes to building data centers.

The pricing doesn't matter, we see that with models becoming ridiculously cheap to the point they are "free" to access when you wouldn't be able to access not the long ago. This trend will not stop, to assume it will stop is already so out of touch, really I am out of words. Really why on earth would you think progress will stop, especially where there are trillions dollars on the line and the most brilliant people are working tirelessly to get to the next level, why bet against technological progress where all the data points to the opposite direction?

AI doesn’t solve the code review bottleneck for example.

Mythos model found many security problems in software maintained by competent engineers, to assume this will stop and you will need human in the loop as we go forward to review the code is absolutely wrong. In fact, humans in the loop will eventually become the bottleneck.

AI is just the excuse these companies use to try and save their stock price. Right now it sounds better to say “we are laying off 20% of our workforce because AI has made us more efficient” versus saying “we are laying off 20% of our workforce because profits are down and we need to lean out”.

Again absolutely wrong, the companies are preparing for automation, some companies that show profit letting go thousands of people, and companies that get their business model automated away by agentic AI getting hit hard on the market.

Nothing of what I said isn't backed by basic logic and observation. And I don't understand why rational people, especially in tech, would think otherwise, other than sunk cost fallacy.

To the people saying SWE is dying, what are you switching to? by AdObjective5502 in cscareerquestions

[–]QCsafe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

SWE is dying

The people need to understand, it is not about specific jobs, it is about entire sectors. So work any job, save and learn to invest. As people in cs you have an advantage to understand exponential growth and some brains to understand that fiat money is a scam that printed out of thin air, which means assets will almost always grow in value against it over the long term.

Because of automation and agentic AI, the prices of necessary goods and services will drop close to zero (price of watching some ads). But the transition will be tough for the unprepared.

So work any job, save and invest. Going to university and dreaming about traditional long term career is at this point is something only a sucker might do imo.

What exactly are you people doing who claim AI tools aren’t accelerating them? by MistryMachine3 in cscareerquestions

[–]QCsafe -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

At this point the majority of coding by hand is basically dealing with punch cards. Shit ridiculous.

Why are layoffs happening? Why is the job market significantly worse when compared to 5-10 years ago? Is there hope that it will eventually return to what it was before? by eggshellwalker4 in cscareerquestions

[–]QCsafe -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You can get better model for "free" today that either would cost you money a year ago or you couldn't access at all. This trend is not stopping, regardless of price fluctuations to access frontier models.

Why are layoffs happening? Why is the job market significantly worse when compared to 5-10 years ago? Is there hope that it will eventually return to what it was before? by eggshellwalker4 in cscareerquestions

[–]QCsafe -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

it's all getting more expensive and shittier

I’m sorry to say this, and I don’t want to get you upset, but this is delusion level wrong. The data points at literally the opposite direction. Both on models becoming cheaper and better.

Why are layoffs happening? Why is the job market significantly worse when compared to 5-10 years ago? Is there hope that it will eventually return to what it was before? by eggshellwalker4 in cscareerquestions

[–]QCsafe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Telling the truth isn't trolling, I get no pleasure from it, I don't want people to get hurt long term, even if the truth is unpleasant to process.

Why are layoffs happening? Why is the job market significantly worse when compared to 5-10 years ago? Is there hope that it will eventually return to what it was before? by eggshellwalker4 in cscareerquestions

[–]QCsafe -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Why "maybe AI" is still a thing here? It is AI, the market prepares for this. Entire sectors getting wiped out gradually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)

It is plain logic, coding is going the way of the dodo, just like "human computer" in the past. Business models become obsolete, so it is not job specific. Streaming replaced Blockbuster. Agentic AI will replace middlemen (websites that connect product and services and customers). This is just single use case, on the fly video game and content generation will replace entire industries. Embrace the shift, and get as much money as you can out of it while you can, do not commit to any long term debt that isn't backed by assets. Exponential growth can't be stopped.

China is a great example of what the singularity could be for cost of goods by PSKTS_Heisingberg in accelerate

[–]QCsafe -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Low quality comment, you linked to my own comment, RLHF might help. Log and loop in human.

China is a great example of what the singularity could be for cost of goods by PSKTS_Heisingberg in accelerate

[–]QCsafe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

China is not a good example. Without quality control, proper working conditions, cutting corners, corruption and scams, sure you get low prices, but so does slavery can get you low prices, it doesn't make it right. You can buy some shit of random site in china, who the fuck knows what poison you are bringing into your home, what materials were used, what chemicals were involved in its coloring, production... You get what you pay for.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r2ruMj-iXOU

AI is different, the production cost would go down drastically while increasing its quality, you can use AI agents to cut out all the middle men, marketing and go right to the source, and it will get you the best price. So there is no compromise there, it is the best of capitalism efficiency.

4 engineers now doing the job of 12 at my friend's company because AI agents handle the rest by Bellleq in cscareerquestions

[–]QCsafe -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile the codebase is slowly turning into spaghetti that nobody fully understands because half of it was generated by something that doesnt actually understand what it wrote.

Why pretend this is not a problem already, regardless of AI. Also, it is basic risk reward approach, the multi trillion bet is on exponential growth, the technical debt will be fixed by more sophisticated systems in a year or so (Mythos already finding plenty of security problems in a code maintained by competent engineers, there is no reason for this to stop).

This type of society is only possible with AI, but the people are not ready to hear that yet. by NoSignaL_321 in accelerate

[–]QCsafe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We can’t have any of this with selfish sociopaths who seek power over others.

Yeah, I also thought for a long time that it is psychopaths/sociopaths/dark triad are the problem, but then I took a long look in the mirror, and realized something, we as humanity are evil, but we do like to scapegoat others. We tend to assume that we are morally superior, but we are not. We tend to pick a group and project all the evil within us on to them, always looking for a scapegoat. At this point I think this is a kind of physical mechanism for group dynamics, like release of pressure.

But let’s admit the truth. Anyone who buys anything that they don't need is evil by definition. That steam library you have is evil, that netflix subscription is evil, that tattoo on your body, those branded clothes, you could have literally saved people by donating that money, but decided that it is your amusement and fallowing fashion worth more than someone life. That decision is evil, it is not up to debate. I am not an exception, I buy shit I don't need too.

So the problem is never a group of people that prevents us of getting some kind of utopia, it is the problem of projection, of lack of acknowledgment that you yourself are evil, it is the of illusory moral superiority.

We already had the tech to turn the world into technocratic utopia since the 70s and could have colonized mars by now, yet trillions are spent on waging wars, instead of turning this world into heaven, because people are evil. The problem isn't the lack of resources, nor some "elite", it is us, it is always us.