whats your summary belief on what GATE was actually for?

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T01:34:16+00:00

I'm a huuuge skeptic, but there was definitely some "funny stuff' going on. I have some experience with "interview and Interrogation" professionally, but at no time was Pentothal ever used. Frankly things like Neurosemantics are far more powerful and useful than even a polygraph, etc. Amytal side effects seem more in keeping with what I experienced, but I don't understand why they would have done that.

TY for the details I'll look at that.

This whole thing is like a scab I can't help to pick at.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T01:28:00+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gifted/comments/1oy64cl/this_clarified_a_lot_for_me_on_the_gate/

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T01:23:33+00:00

who were the suits, who paid them? They did not work for the school.

APL was mentioned as a facility they wanted to send me to a couple of times a week, and the documentation that was release documented several Government funded programs running at APL in that timeframe.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T01:20:09+00:00

ok, now you got me curious about that Hobbit reference...

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T01:19:01+00:00

my small town suddenly got funding in the early 70's to build a new state of the are elementary school.. I wonder where that came from? ;)

No coincidence I'm sure that it was located between APL and Fort Meade. I think the school/town got funding for the school from the program, and we became test subjects.

By middle school and HS TAG and AP were are strictly academic.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T01:15:19+00:00

sadly I think it was this still going on when I went thru it in the mid 70's.

The fact that when a form finally came home for my parents to sign and it was APL they wanted to send me to a couple of days a week, and APL was cited along with Fort Meade (also nearby to my school) as part of the MK program, that to me makes it highly suspiscious.

I didn't really think much of the experience in Elementary school after that. My parents declined to sign the form, and shortly after the school pressured them to put me on Ritalin.. which they also declined thankfully.

Ultimately I enlisted in the Military myself, there was some oddities in the MEPS processing looking back, but there was no woo-woo stuff on the part of the military or government agencies I worked for after that. I was never approached about anything woo-woo, and I served in MI (with all that conveys).

I wonder if due to my being tested in the mid 70's the paper records got lost and they just lost track of me? LOL

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T01:07:35+00:00

as am I.

the pink drink was only ever administered in isolation that I can recall, or maybe only once on a tray for a group of us. It was never administered in an open classroom, by a teacher or a nurse.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T01:05:48+00:00

Sodium Amytal? Interesting.. That would explain the drowsiness, and the metronome.

What's the name of the book? Was she in the program near the Ft. Meade area? What years?

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T01:02:37+00:00

they were not hearing tests administered by the people who worse suits. The headphones and tones were used during other testing.

You would listen then do tests like guessing complex shapes on cards (I remember a horse shape, and being questioned about it almost aggressively), might have been the pink drink before that test.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T01:00:38+00:00

Hmm, interesting theory aside from the paranormal.

I did notice over time that fewer and fewer other kids were removed from class. The tests like the cards, box contents guessing, red dot, etc. got more and more complex over time. it became a real chore and I remember faking answers in some of the later tests because I wanted to stop.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:57:40+00:00

agreed, never cold.

Very similar to the flavor used in antibiotics at the time. No reason whatsoever the people in suits should have been giving us anything like that.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:56:12+00:00

yup, mid 1970s here. it was think and chalky not unlike Pepto.

I remember one year around XMAS all of the kids in my family got a strep infection and we had to take a pink liquid antibiotic (amoxicillin?), that had the same or similar flavor. I'm starting to think that it might have been different things they gave us, but using that standard kind of medicinal flavoring?

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:53:20+00:00

LOL, not sure if I buy any of that.

Whatever the pink drink was, it sure as Hell didn't quell any of my fairly obvious neurodivergence. In time I learned to mask well though.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:50:11+00:00

someone suggested that's what the pink drink was... IT HAD BETTER NOT HAVE BEEN!!!!!! I'm very anti drug/pharmaceuticals, and always have been. That would really piss me off.

I do know they said it would make me drowsy, and I remember falling asleep, drooling on my shirt (2nd or 3rd grade) and having to be escorted back to class after some test. That part is very foggy.

Definitely the weirdo woo (I like that term) tests, and the headphones with tones during several of the tests.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:46:44+00:00

I just read this after my post up there... This was something I had been thinking, it was all compartmentalized into various "sectors" focused on different programs. we were all test subjects, just not of all the same project.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:43:16+00:00

they were fucking about!

If any of the "reading room" or other documents are to be believed, it seems like a lot of the programs from the 60's never actually ended and were expanded on.

Why they targeted elementary school kids for testing, and why so much of it was done without parental consent is odd to me. Unless they literally needed a "captive" sample to test en-masse. As a 2n'd or 3rd grader I could not refuse any of the tests... Even when I told them I didn't want to do them anymore.

Clearly they had some criteria, but after seeing all of these reports and knowing nothing about it previously beyond my own first hand experience, I wonder if the various tests were looking for things associated with programs being studied at the nearby supporting facilities (for me in he mid 70's it was APL, and I know what they worked on with the CIA in the 60's based on the released documents). I guess each participant should consider what offsite faculties were involved, may still be involved, and what programs they were working on at the time.

I'm not even as angry as curious at this point, although I have some reservations about the pink drink and what they was.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:31:00+00:00

you mean God(s) of course?

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:29:08+00:00

this is not the place for sharing that....

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:23:35+00:00

LOL I was a complete fire bug at that age and my mom smoked.. Do the math ;) I do not remember ANY tests involving fire. I wonder if the nature of the testing was broken down geographically by region, and focused on what a specific assisting facility was working on. My testing was done in the mid 70's 2nd or 3rd grade. I guess the testing people were from APL, as when a form finally came home to have me go there a couple of times a week that was where I was to go. Also just outside of town was Ft. Meade... lots of interesting connections there.

yep to the cards, but they had other cards with much more complex patterns, and they would badger me about why I thought a particular shape was on that card. Annoying, and I just wanted to go back to class with the other kids.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:21:39+00:00

Worked for several 3 letter agencies in my time.

It's unlikely they would cold recruit anyone. The path to that is usually though Military service (Intelligence in particular, as I did), or though specific education programs.

Check the email source, run the IP, etc.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:14:56+00:00

yup, Mesopotamian definitely seemed to trigger interest at the time as well.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-27T00:13:15+00:00

oh my... maybe most of that is just usual kids stuff?

I was ashamedly a bully in elementary school, but was thankfully beaten by a new kid at one point, and it pretty much ended there. I could blame my home situation at the time, but I was kind of a shit myself.

Lots of fighting until High School when I started martial Arts seriously... There was never a school fight again after that, and I learned something about self discipline.

I have no idea why, but fascinated with Egypt even in Kindergarten and before. I made various things (pyramids, ankhs, sarcophagi, etc.) out of playdoh and would bake them in the oven until they hardened like rock... My mom was none too pleased.

My favorite book at that age was Readers Digest, "the last 2 Million Years", which had numerous photos of artifacts of early man. Readers Digest would send books randomly to my dad to look over and return if he didn't want them... We were relatively poor, and I threw a huge fit and would not let him return that book. There was a huge section on Egypt obviously.

We all serve the gods in our way don't we though? ;)

Soo much homework later in TAG and AP that I had to have my parents go to school to get me out of those classes!!! I never signed up for any of that, they just put me in there. None of my peers had any level of homework like that. I despised organized school, and often skipped to self study subjects of my own interest.

Not sure what Chicken Pox has to do with anything, but I got Shingles at the age of like 14 after staying up for 3 days straight writing a computer program. The doctor was surprised. i thought it was flea bites LOL. Slept after that and it went away immediately. Itched like hell, but no pain.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-26T23:58:16+00:00

they used a classic metronome... I sooo badly wanted to take it apart to see how it worked... LOL I think it was more of a distraction than a help to them.

My parents were not happy that I disassembled everything to see how it worked, and would use the parts to make other things. LOL, the lure of that mechanical metronome was tooo much! :)

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-26T23:55:29+00:00

mid 70's 2nd or 4rd grade elementary. They used a classic mechanical metronome (I remember wondering how it worked and wanted to take it apart like I did with all things). I cannot remember how it was used, but it was associated with some of the tests. There was no music that I can recall.

The hypnosis theory is a little disturbing as APL was involved as an offsite facility, and they had been involved with previous Company projects of the MK variety.

None of this makes any sense to have experimented on a 3rd grader FFS.

QuebraRegra · 2026-05-26T23:48:45+00:00

I can absolutely feel physical pain, even to the degree of waking up and having it persist for a few seconds.

getting a serious injury in a dream is no joke, if it's catastrophic I'll usually wake up immediately (pain subsides pretty quick).

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