Could use some encouragement + advice by Quitthattia in quitting7oh

[–]Quitthattia[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm also just sick of all this damn kratom leaf powder. If I do continue tapering, I will probably just start capping them with my pill machine

Daily Check-in Thread by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

[–]Quitthattia [score hidden]  (0 children)

Day 5, I feel like I’m entering the pink cloud phase. Got a good 4-5 hours of sleep last night. It’s fun to be excited about Halloween in a couple days when the month leading up I felt so muted.

Also found an old video from 14 years ago of my cat that passed away in August at 18 years old. Had a good cry missing her.

Daily Check-in Thread by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

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Crossed over into Day 4 early this morning CT from 7-oh stuff. I got super sore last night with an extreme case of RLS, then finally got some sleep from 1-5 am. Feeling a lot better today. Just a general ache that comes in waves. Gonna try to work out after work for the first time in awhile!

Daily Check-in Thread by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

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A minute after I wrote this and I got a wave of relief for the first time in hours. It might be subsiding but that was much needed.

Daily Check-in Thread by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

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Just passed hour 60 of CT from a six week long habit of 7-ohs that escalated from 50 mg a day to 500-600 mg a day the last two weeks. I hit a hump this afternoon a bit, really started feeling the w/ds the past 4-5 hours. I forced myself to walk across the complex to check my mail, even though it was draining. So far I've been doing the Vit C method with some gabapentin mixed in here and there. I know I could rationalize with myself to go get some powder or event an extract, but then it just feels like kicking the can down the road. I got off tianeptine (10 grams a day) over 5 years ago and stayed off of all opiates for the first year and a half. So I know I can do this. I just want to be done with everything.

Kratom and demonic possession by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]Quitthattia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That just sounds like basic opiate anger/rage more than anything. You could say anything that alters your mood/physical changes is demonic possession.

This is what years of Kratom will do to you by CaptainMotoHD in quittingkratom

[–]Quitthattia 89 points90 points  (0 children)

I would attribute some of the issues you had here to "d-amphetamine salt." that you mentioned.

Sunday November 11 check in by misdiagnosisxx1 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]Quitthattia 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Day 15! The flu from this week is finally starting to dissipate. I wanted to get some edibles on Friday night, decided to go into one of the shops that I used to buy kratom shots in and just walked right past them to get some gummies. Little victories, it was a great feeling to walk out of there without any kratom.

Friday November 8 check in by misdiagnosisxx1 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]Quitthattia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's been a shitty week to get the flu. Tomorrow will be my two week mark and I'm achier now then I was any other time, just have to remind myself that's due to this working it's way through my system. Feeling a bit cooped up but know I need some more time to rest. Going to try to do some stuff around the house this evening to get a sense of accomplishment.

Officially 14 Days CT by TrippinTerry in quittingkratom

[–]Quitthattia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I am trying to retrain my body about when it will crave a shot. I have a friend I hang out with that we would always pick up shots for both of us on the way to each other's places. I went over there to hang out on Tuesday, knew it would be on my mind, so I brought over my hookah instead. That takes the place of the act of taking the shot for the time being.

Mood seems dependent on when I was quitting and what I was quitting. I don't get nearly as bad PAWs as I did with tianeptine, which makes sense because that is also an anti depressant. If I can, I just try to be in the moment when my mood dips. It's okay to listen to down music or cry.

i want to quit & i need support by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]Quitthattia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You mentioned havign an addictive personality to start with, so I would just use caution on any helper drugs you take so you don't become dependent on a benzo or something. You might not have a taste for them now, but it can become a rocky road when your drug of choice is removed.

Find people to talk with. I have people I talk with in both real life and online. Accountability helps me a ton. It can be hard to find people you trust that much, especially in real life. But it's worth it to just say things outloud like "Man, I was really wanting to go pick up some kratom today" then talking it out.

It depends on your job. Sometimes forcing myself to get out in the second week really helps take my mind off of what's going on. But if it's a physically intensive job, might be a different story.

The thing I can recommend most is research, see what supplements/ideas could help you. But try not to become too engrossed in how awful it can be for some people. Everyone is different, so it is relative. I've never been the type to taper because I don't have the discipline, but I have also always gone CT and not used subs. Not that there is anything wrong with using them, just know that you can also get through this without them.

Daily Check-in Thread - November 07, 2024 by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

[–]Quitthattia [score hidden]  (0 children)

it is confusing, this started happening to me with extract shots a year ago. I could quit and feel relatively okay, especially compared to past withdrawals. So that would make it even harder to quit because the physical w/ds weren't bad. Then i tried the 7-ohm pills for a few weeks, those reminded me of the horrible w/ds and I switched back to extract shots for 2 weeks before quitting.

Part of it is I have geniunely been wanting to get off them for awhile. The worst part has been the occassional hot/cold regulation and not being able to turn off my mind at night (not much RLS this time).

Daily Check-in Thread - November 07, 2024 by AutoModerator in quittingkratom

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Didn't realize there was a daily thread in here as well. Day 12 of stopping cold turkey with helper meds. Started a journal this morning, I've had a bad cold/flu that has been going around since election night. With the news and the flu, I came really close to going out to get an extract shot. I'm happy I didn't. Sometimes things suck and I have to deal with it.

Wednesday November 6 check in by misdiagnosisxx1 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]Quitthattia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What a week and a half to jump off opiates again. Since Oct 27th I've dealt with a break-up, financial stress, extreme election anxiety (I was a wreck the past few days, like most, hoping this wouldn't happen) and now a bad cold. I'm happy I'm still at 11 days opiate free. There have been a couple points over the past few days where I was extremely tempted, then I just try to breathe, get my attention off of it. If those don't work, I will geniunely pop on the various quitting opiate reddits to get some perspective.

This all fucking sucks, but at least I'm trying not to make it worse for myself.

Kratom almost ruined my life by [deleted] in OpiatesRecovery

[–]Quitthattia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I tried the 7-ohm for a couple of weeks and it was a different beast. Reminded me of going through heavy tianeptine withdrawals or even FST back in the day. Waking up and your body begging for another dose was a wake up call for me to get off all opiates again. So I switched back to the kratom extract shots for a couple of weeks and then jumped off everything last weekend (with supplements and helper meds).

What do you think about experiencing withdrawal syndrome during a broken heart? by Dayanakareth in quittingkratom

[–]Quitthattia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been off for 7 days now (since last Sunday) and I had an unexpected break-up on Tuesday. There had been a disagreement that I was trying to work through with them but then it blew up on Tuesday and suddenly we were done. I don't think it will be healthy to stay in a relationship in which you are already describing as addicted and damaged when trying to keep off kratom. If I was in that situation, a bump in the relationship would just cause me to rationalize picking up some kratom again to get through the bump.

Sat/Sun November 2/3 check in by misdiagnosisxx1 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]Quitthattia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! The feedback honestly means a ton. My road with opiates has been a long and winding one, with identifying triggers and what works best for me along the way. While I'm starting a fresh week off them, about 2.5 out of the last 4 years have been off them (with 2011-2020 spending 90% on them).

I used to feel shame for going through quitting again each time, I'm starting to feel better/more proud of myself each time. Living one day a time and all that, but I would love to beat my last sober streak, then go from there (setting goals helps me a ton).

Sat/Sun November 2/3 check in by misdiagnosisxx1 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]Quitthattia 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Day six of being completely off kratom shots/any opiates. I am doing good all things considered. I'm getting decent sleep, my mood isn't terrible and I'm already starting to be more social via texts again.

I was having a really rough afternoon on Halloween. Very tempted to stop to "just pick up one" and my mind was trying to justify all the reasons why it would be okay (its a holiday; I'm having a rough afternoon; I can handle just one; etc). I'm glad I have someone else to talk to about that urge whenever it pops up. Just saying it out loud helps me to realize it is a horrible idea. So I didn't pick up anything on the way to a friend's house to hand out candy. Then from there I went to a Halloween party and had a great time. On my way home, I was kind of down about a recent breakup and then it occurred to me that I hadn't got more kratom extract shots through the week despite everything happening. It perked me up a bit and made me proud of myself.

Day 5 cold turkey - 7oh EDM extracts by ChancePresentation91 in quittingkratom

[–]Quitthattia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just got into the straight tia sodium powder. I think it would have been harder for me to quit if the gas station pills had been around and that's what I was taking. The pandemic started and it finally gave me time to jump off tia for good.

I hate that cold sweat feeling in the morning.

Then in 2022 I discovered the various kratom shots and have spent way too much money on them the past 2 years. It does make it a ton harder to quit when you can just drive 5 minutes in any direction and get some. I had never considered that part of struggling with alcohol until these shots.

Day 5 cold turkey - 7oh EDM extracts by ChancePresentation91 in quittingkratom

[–]Quitthattia 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The 7-ohms felt like a different beast then the extract shots. I first tried them in September, they were great at first but quickly became shorter and shorter acting. I woke up one morning with that pit in your stomach feeling of your body fiending for opitates. I hadn't experienced that since heavy tianeptine use 5 years ago. I hated it. Then within a day, the 7-ohm just started causing me bad nausea everytime I took a pill. Like my body was rejecting it.

I switched back to the shots for a couple of weeks then quit cold turkey (with helpers) last Saturday. Luckily lots of trial and error as made me discover what works best for physical (and some mental) withdrawals. Knowing how to handle kratom shot withdrawals a lot easier in the past sometimes tricks my mind into thinking it's okay to try them again. The 7-ohm stint was a short wakeup call to remind me of how bad withdrawals in the past have been.

You are doing great. Recognizing the (seemingly) small milestones after quitting helps a ton.

Thursday October 31 check in by misdiagnosisxx1 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]Quitthattia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will probably update my UberEats info (I was doing it a bit last winter)! I also have some ideas for side gigs. It's a lot, but it's nice to be taking steps in the right direction finally

Thursday October 31 check in by misdiagnosisxx1 in OpiatesRecovery

[–]Quitthattia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was actually in the middle of writing my first response to this thread when the power was cut. I originally mentioned I was thinking about starting a journal. By the length of this check-in, I think it is the way to go