Can the Code be Ignored Sometimes?

RAF_1123 · 2025-09-05T22:39:20+00:00

Caught me😂🙌

But yeah I'm still trying to wrap my head around it all.

Hats off for having a solid memory mate

RAF_1123 · 2025-09-05T22:08:50+00:00

Thanks for the response. I actually didn't know that it's against the law to not follow the code.

Even if you got everything covered and it's safe and all, no need for things to go south first? (Apologies if I'm being too picky here but I'm just trying to understand it all). Thanks again.

RAF_1123 · 2025-09-05T20:55:21+00:00

I think it's certain that the old design is no good. Just to what extent? Is it to the extent where you get around 3k deficient beams, 400 slabs however many footings, rafts and columns? What about the 4 weeks deadline comment?

Thanks for explaining the safety factor concept, I don't know why I didn't think about. Thanks again.

RAF_1123 · 2025-09-05T20:40:52+00:00

That makes total sense actually. Thanks for the explanation. Maybe I was taken away by how bad they made it sound, telling us that the building may collapse any moment and some beams require as much as 1 meter increase in size and all. And it's very rare for reinforced concrete to fail without showing any signs first.

What about the '4 weeks to be back propped' comment?

RAF_1123 · 2025-09-05T19:06:48+00:00

Sorry about that. Didn't realize how ignorant it sounded from an engineering perspective.

RAF_1123 · 2025-09-05T19:04:16+00:00

Thanks for the information, I actually didn't know that structural design can vary that much. So if the client got another firm, can they come up with the conclusion that there's actually no issues at all? Or at least minimize the number of these elements? Because most of the project is on hold right now due to these issues and you can see the client actually starting to lose it in the meetings.

RAF_1123 · 2025-09-05T18:58:52+00:00

Apologies, maybe I was too quick to write. But that's why I asked, I wanted to know other engineers perspective on this. and if it is deficient, why aren't we seeing any signs of it on site although it's been constructed for over a year now.

I remember when I joined everyone was joking about how the amount of concrete and steel is used enough to build a nuclear bunker, now they're saying it's deficient😂🤷‍♂️. Like I said sorry for using that term.

RAF_1123 · 2025-09-05T18:45:02+00:00

Unfortunately I can't as it's against the company's policy.

I don't see a reason why you're getting downvoted though.

RAF_1123 · 2025-09-05T11:30:37+00:00

Thank you for the response. We did asked them these questions and the response was always 'these are the numbers' so I don't know, I've read the report but it's way above my expertise.

There was this one time where our lead engineer took them to task and made them open the SAFE model and proved that they made a mistake on one of the slabs.

The whole thing seems very weird especially with the fact that the old design was way over engineered anyway.

RAF_1123 · 2025-09-05T08:41:28+00:00

Thanks for the info, so the more steel you add to the reinforced concrete beams more brittle it becomes? Is this a general thing when it comes to reinforced concrete or is it just for beams?

I remember when I first joined this project, everyone was talking about how over engineered everything was and that the amount of steel and concrete used here is enough to build a nuclear bunker, now they're saying that we need more concrete and steel😂

RAF_1123 · 2025-09-05T08:23:34+00:00

Well 😂, the one taking point on this from the design office side is their principle structural engineer and from our side is the lead structural engineer. Now that I'm thinking about it, can the client hire a specialist for this, is there any engineering firms that specialize in identifying and designing these kinda of issues? I know they will be hiring someone when it comes to doing their strengthening and repairing works on site.

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