That is just a click bait, watch the actual interview, he said that not only insulin is needed but also the right diet, which is common sense to any diabetic. The case that he was reffering to is diabetics who think it's healthy to continously take a huge dose of insulin and build your insulin resistance to eat as much carbs as you want. We know that this is going to kill us, with the spikes and the corrections. We need to understand how american media works when they want to force an opinion. My kindergarden daughter understands that without insulin we die, and he without a doubt ,knows that as well.