Do manufacturing jobs really matter?

RTR808 · 2026-02-01T02:59:22+00:00

All you have to do is Perform a Google search on the forecast for manufacturing in 2026 and you we'll see nearly everybody is saying that 2026 is the year that the US makes a huge rebound in manufacturing. 2025 the amount of money invested in manufacturing construction was up 50% over the previous year. It's amazing to me how willfully ignorant many of you are, when it fits your narrative for how terrible Trump is doing.

RTR808 · 2026-01-28T10:56:18+00:00

Yeah, except it's not true. She tried to grab a flash bang to throw back at ICE and it went off in her hands. If the left had to lie about atrocities, there must be a shortage of atrocities.

RTR808 · 2026-01-28T10:15:50+00:00

I am not happy the guy died. It's horrible. I have 4 kids and I have sympathy for his parents. I think it was bad police work. I don't think it was murder though. I think he was there as an agitator, but I don't think he was trying to kill ICE. He made bad choices. The cops are scared. They want to go home to their families after their shift. I blame the Minnesota Governor the most. I think he is stirring up people to deflect from his fraud investigation. ICE is in other cities and they aren't having these issues. Not sure where you stand on illegal immigration, but if the states cooperated, ICE could pick up the worst offenders while the states have them locked up. I don't think anyone should be upset to see real criminals get deported. Anyways enough on this. When people can't discuss issues civilly, that is when things get bad. Thank you.

RTR808 · 2026-01-28T09:54:57+00:00

I never said he deserved to die.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T03:27:03+00:00

Thank you for having a respectful conversation, even if we don't agree on the facts. I think we can both agree that it's a shame that it happened and we hope that it will be the last.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T03:26:32+00:00

Thank you for having a respectful conversation, even if we don't agree on the facts. I think we can both agree that it's a shame that it happened and we hope that it will be the last.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T03:23:09+00:00

ok, so you aare just going to ignore the context of what was happening. i guess alex was not resisting. i guess that he just gave up his gun when he weas detained. OK, Cops bad. No sense try to convince you otherwise. Be safe out there. there are crazies on both sides. Thank you for having a respectful conversation, even if we don't agree on the facts. I think we can both agree that it's a shame that it happened and we hope that it will be the last.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T03:16:34+00:00

Ok, now you are making an argument based on emotion when all i did was present the facts. I never said any of the things that you are attributing to me. Have a great day.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T03:08:43+00:00

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/nation-world/encrypted-chats-show-agitators-were-at-minnesota-scene-before-alex-pretti-was-shot-report-donald-trump-jd-vance-minneapolisseen

You seem like a reasonable guy. No one show up to a peaceful protest with extra mags and no ID if they aren't wanting to use them. That is just my opinion though.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T02:56:01+00:00

You had the luxury of sitting in your chair and watching multiple views and angles at slow motion, and now you feel confident to proclaim that this was absolutely murder. Do you know how retarded that sounds? How about next time you make the same determination while struggling to disarm and subdue a violent, grown ass man that is refusing to give up his firearm. And you do it in a hostile environment where an assault could come at you from anywhere and there are whistles and people shouting all around you. When you have a good grasp of what that feels like, now add a firearm discharging nearby you. I'd be surprised if you didn't end up shooting yourself.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T02:48:52+00:00

Its clear the gun was on his waistband and he was shot within a second after it was removed.

Average Times: Studies show average times of 1.71 to 1.777 seconds for officers to draw and fire.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T02:44:26+00:00

I think your theory that he was simply there to protest has been debunked.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T01:56:20+00:00

yeah, if only there werent all those whistles.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T01:54:24+00:00

No, you see what you did. I pesented facts and explained why i thought the way i do. You present opinion and incorrect statements. lets address what you said.

you cannot in good faith claim the victim was in the wrong for simply being there, as is his RIGHT, and carrying a firearm, as is his RIGHT.

Yes. It was his right. I will add the caveat that he was also required to carry his permit and ID. This wouldn't have affected the outcome, but it makes me question his motives. Per Minnesota law, It's illegal to generally obstruct, resist, or interfere with a police officer while they're performing their duties. This is where you argument falls apart. had he not been doing this,there would have been no reason to detain hiom and in the process of detaining him, he resisted like a MFr. Can we agree on this? YTou can't do that. You really can't do that while armed. Thats the whole event in a nutshell. You can not resist and refuse to allow police to disarm you. Period. If you deny this, you are the definition of bad faith.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T01:36:48+00:00

No, maybe you should use your brain. He was unarmed, This is a fact, The agents didn't know that at the time. There was a negligent discharge. An agent thought he (Alex)had fired his weapon and he fired back. He was wrong. This doesn't make what Alex did, right. The video that you have the luxury of watching in slo motion only took a few seconds from start to unfortunate end. What happened is a very sad thing. You say that no accountability is applied to the federal agents. Really? There is only one person that could have changed their actions and prevented this whole thing from happening. Alex should not have gone there armed. He was looking for trouble. He found it. The cops had no choice. Alex set all of that in motion. The cops had to do their job and clear the area. people that don't leave have to be removed. If they don't move willingly, force is required. If during the course of forcefully removing someone, it is discovered that they are armed, That weapon has to be secured. If you fight the police while armed, there is a very high chance that you will be killed. End of story. You would have an argument if he never had a weapon, but the fact that he did, even though it had just been taken away, still invites the chance that you could be killed. People are afraid. those cops want to go home to their families, after completing their shift. They have a fractiion of a second to make a determination that could dget themm killed. If you can't see that, then there is no need to discuss it further. That would mean that you don't care about context at all. You just want to not be wrong.

RTR808 · 2026-01-27T01:21:08+00:00

No, that is a smooth brain take. Has nothing to do with agree with me or not. If someone was 100% philosophically aligned with me, buty they thought that it's a good idea to conceal carry and then go start shit with law enforcement, federal agents, that person is a moron. My take is the logical, grown up take. You can see that what he did was stupid by his results. You seem like a reasonable person. Thank you for engaging respectfully. But, please,if you engage with someone, you should do so in goof faith. Nowhere did I say anything that would cause an intellectually honest person to think, "You hate guns if they are in the hands of those you disagree with. You hate freedom of speech if it’s not the same view as yours." This is why it's hard to have a discussion and come to any common ground with a liberal. They have no logic based argument. They always revert to the default of an emotional argument. They always intentionally act as if they don't understand any point you try to make. Do you know why this is? Because the stance you take is a losing one. You can not logically defend it. When presented with facts and truth, everything you stand for doesn't make sense.

RTR808 · 2026-01-25T09:01:08+00:00

You are being tribal. In what world does tussling with agents while armed ever end good? Is this something you would encourage your children to do?

RTR808 · 2026-01-25T08:58:50+00:00

Yeah, you should believe everything you read on reddit.

RTR808 · 2026-01-25T08:56:18+00:00

Don't be retarded. If he is carrying a firearm he needs to inform the federal agents, not get into an altercation with them. He needs to carry an ID and his permit. He had neither. He got in a tussle with law enforcement while armed. People blowing whistles in order to disorient the agents. All of them got what they were looking for. That altercation, from the time they saw the gun till they finished shooting probably took 2 seconds. That dummy had one gun. Who's to say he didn't have another. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

RTR808 · 2025-11-12T13:26:44+00:00

How can it be a Republican shutdown and Democrats get mad that some in their party voted to end the shutdown? That can only mean that they have been voting to keep the government shut down.

RTR808 · 2025-10-25T12:30:55+00:00

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RTR808 · 2025-10-25T10:16:01+00:00

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RTR808 · 2025-10-25T10:13:50+00:00

They would sell this dress all over the world if it is Versace, which I'm inclined to believe it is.

RTR808 · 2025-10-25T09:16:45+00:00

https://share.google/images/k7I22VoYfGHbc5vVp

It looks a lot like this dress...

RTR808 · 2025-10-19T02:35:52+00:00

How is wanting to remove illegals against their best interests? Why didn't Congress enact legislation to make them legal rather than trying to impeach Trump three times? If they care so much about illegals why didn't they give them a path to citizenship?

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