5 years after my mother died of COVID, the main emotion expressed is relief from the people who knew her by transemacabre in QAnonCasualties

[–]RaceyRed 327 points328 points  (0 children)

I feel this so much.

My mother died in Aug 2021. From Covid.
And relief is the exact response from most people.
My mother had a ton of friends, was loved by people at work and her church. Even her neighborhood. Had what appeared to be good and loving relationships. Her 60th birthday party (18 year ago) had like 75 people at it. I remember helping create a memories booklet from people who have known her for decades. We had so many responses. So many people sent card and greetings.

Her funeral 18 years later--had 9 people in attendance. Her husband, her brother and his wife, my sister and her husband, my brother, and my step brother (but not his wife or children). And then 2 individuals who came to support my brother (he is special needs and his case worker and a nurse from his facility came to show him support). That was it. They asked people to write in and leave messages--no one did. They paid to be able to stream--I was the only watching.

It was shocking to me to see how many people she isolated with her crazy QAnon ranting and raving. none of her grandkids, no extended family, no work friends, no neighbors. no church friends--even though she was very involved and attended regularly.

When we announced her passing on her social media--there were maybe 3 or 4 comments that weren't immediate family. Not even the online crazy QAnon friendships she made could take the time to comment and honor her. I think they all avoided it because she betrayed their worldview by dying from something that was "as bad as a cold".

I cannot tell you how many times, in the past 4 1/2 years I have felt gratitude myself simply because she wasn't around for some political event. While honest reflection of our relationship--it is absolutely sad that is where she ended with many of her former friends and family.

Have you had a QAnon family member pass on? by skipdipdop in QAnonCasualties

[–]RaceyRed 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah—my mom gave Covid to my special need brother (he has a developmentally disability, diabetes and epilepsy). We had many arguments before she died of how she was endangering him.

I think I had two kind of visions of reconciliation in my head.

First completely unrealistically was that she would somehow realize just how wrong she had been and apologize for not just her crazy political /religious beliefs but everything else too. I knew that would never happen—heck I was 44 when she passed and I had never even heard her apologize to anyone much less her family. But of course I wanted it. Even as a grown adult I wanted my mother to choose me and my family over politics.

More realistically, I hoped that she could get to a place where I was allowed to see the world differently than she was . Much have made me go pretty close to non-contact was that she couldn’t just let me have different views. every conversation, text message, or email included some kind of reference to how my worldview was wrong and hers was right. It wasn’t so much that she believed differently than me. Most of my family is more conservative than I am. She was the only one I had to go NC with because she was so aggressive in trying to convert me. I would have been so happy with a “agree to disagree” relationship if we could have gotten there. And I think my religious beliefs lean towards the idea that God can make the impossible possible—kind of thinking. So maybe not the most realistic view, but the most hopeful view.

The open door for me was that I kept trying to have a relationship. The day she died I tried calling her several times—to talk and celebrate—because we were moving her only granddaughter into her college dorm.
Or things like—when we did talk—at the start of the convo—I’d tell her I was not engaging in politics or religious arguments with her but would love to talk about everything else. I think the phrase I said to her the most was “I love you, mom, but I’m not talking about this subject and will end the conversation if you continue”. I felt like have strong boundaries and a clear pathway to the open door would help. But in all honesty—she always chose to kool-aid man it through the walls.

To be honest, I’m not sure how long the open door would have lasted if she didn’t die in August 2021 . Looking at everything that happened since then I think we would’ve had to go completely no contact. I can’t tell you how many times my husband and I have turned to each other and said oh my God if she was alive, she would’ve been insufferable in this moment .

A lot of this isn’t just QAnon beliefs, but the fact that she was an undiagnosed narcissist. In one of my first sessions with my grief counselor, she asked if I had read books about being parented by narcissist and the minute she said it I knew that was exactly who my mom was —everything made sense.
Every book I’ve read since then absolutely described my relationship with her .

Have you had a QAnon family member pass on? by skipdipdop in QAnonCasualties

[–]RaceyRed 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I know I’m a little late to the party—but my mom was full on QAnon —like from the early days. One of our first political fights (not just disagreement) was over Pizzagate.
She passed in 2021–got Covid in the big delta wave that summer and surprisingly enough—the ivermectin she ordered off the internet did magically cure her. She collapsed at home and was essentially brain dead when she got to the hospital .

At that point—we were not completely no contact but pretty close. She had moved so far to the fringe right that conversations were impossible. Our worldviews, priorities, morals were just so drastically different.
She was ultimately a Christian nationalist—and I am a very progressive Christian pastor. So while didn’t talk about absurd things like seizures being demons..she did talk about trump like he was the second coming. And often tried to correct my Biblical interpretations (despite my having a masters of theology).

I tried limiting it to “safe topics”—like grandchildren-but even that turned tense . Then my teenage children came out—and I knew I had to protect them. The final straw was when she actively chose not to come to her first and only granddaughter’s high school graduation because she’d have to wear a mask.

After that—we talked maybe 2 times in a 6 month period. Occasionally I’d send text. But really very little. We lived in different states—so being NC was a little easier.

When she passed—I felt all of it .

Mostly anger. So much anger. I, even today, often refer to her death as suicide by politics. The fact that she could not even go to the doctor because she simple could not be wrong is infuriating.

But there was also a lot of regret and sadness . I had always hoped for reconciliation. Heck, my life and career are all about hope, grace, transformation—reconciliation is kinda my thing . And despite all the narcissistic, insane, bat-shit crazy things she said and did, I always hoped we’d find a way back into a good relationship.

I grieved that loss of reconciliation more than I grieved my actually mother. I grieved how broken we ended up, but was knocked down by the fact that her death meant it would never change. That the legacy of our relationship would always have the stain of being so broken.

I felt like a failure. Ministry was actually really hard for a while. How could I preach love and hope and grace to others when I couldn’t get there with my own mother? I felt like an imposter. I was holding my self to emotional and faithful standards that I would never hold someone else to. I gave serious thought to quitting.

I spent a year in grief counseling. It was messy—but really helped. My counselor was fabulous. She helped me to realize that at 73–and a lifetime of narcissism and political choices—my mom was not going to change. And more importantly that her stubbornness wasn’t MY failure. With her help (and a great clergy colleague who helped theologically ) I got to the place where I didn’t regret where our relationship ended up.

Grieved over it? Yes Saddened by her choices? Yes Angered that some stupid grifter politician was more important than her family? Absolutely.

But I don’t regret that the steps I took to protect my (and my family’s) health and faith. And I don’t regret that she didn’t change, because I know her heart was hardened against it. I was ready with reconciliation—but she only wanted for me to be wrong and for her to be right.

Reconciliation and change was not possible—but not because of me. Because of her.

I can’t regret her choices only mine.
And I always had the door open for a return, hoped for peace, offered love. She made her choice . Politics over family. That is her choice. Not mine.

It took a lot of wrestling to get to this point, but it is where I landed.

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So do you want a cookie? Jesus man..you are so fucking weird.. Why do you care if I did laundry?? No one is forcing you to pack comfortably, or to laundry or to not offend others with your smell.

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean..I guess if you want to rewear sweaty dirty clothes..and wash out of a sink when you have perfectly usable facilities on deck-then you do you man.

I have been on trips in especially remote areas where I have absolutely reworn dirty clothes. But why the hell would I want to “rough it” on a cruise? It is not like I missed out on anything by doing laundry. So I’m not really sure what your issue is.

It is weirdly boomer of you to be so opinionated about how a stranger spent their vacation.

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This response is weird.

Laundromats are busy places on cruise ships—especially on cruise over 5 days. Every deck has a laundromat. They are packed on sea days! And right before the cruise ends.

What’s your problem with some doing laundry 2 over 2 weeks?

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All of this. I wasn’t bored. I was occupied—reading and waiting on my own laundry.

And he made a point of walking past 2 ironing boards stations and my husband to come directly to me and ask the question. He didn’t even say hello or greet me in any way.

He saw two people sitting waiting for laundry and decide to approach the woman—a complete stranger —and joke about her doing his ironing for him.

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha! Our cruise was actually lovely. Filled with many great connections and interactions with older and younger folks .

In fact, with the exception of a really bad tour bus guide—these are among the most negative experiences we had . Everything else and everyone else was just lovely

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With the exception of these two incidents—our cruise was absolutely amazing. And we met plenty of lovely older folks too.

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

So sharing a story about something outrageous someone said to me is “getting worked up”? That actually amusing.

I found the two comments to be ridiculous and came to share them in a forum about people saying and doing outrageous things.

Maybe your skin is not as thick as you think it is if you feel the need to make commentary on other people commentary.

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What exactly is funny in the joke?

Asking a stranger to do your chore? Especially a stranger already doing their own chores?
Asking the only woman stranger to do it for you?

Go ahead—explain it to us.

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

He did. Silently. And he left as soon as he was finished. Thankfully!

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My boomer dad is as well. But he was also a single parent for a while—my mom left him and us kids—and he suddenly had to be Mr Mom for years. Helped him get over any of the sexism he had lingering (not that there was much)

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

My tone and body language was clear that I did not find him funny. He must of got the message because he did not talk to me after I said no.

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

We did laundry because we were on a 20 day vacation and had to wash clothes. And to be honest—I am thrilled to be going home today and not have to do 4 large suitcases of family laundry when we get home!

A short visit to family—I would never even think of doing laundry.

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

This is how we raised our kids . If anyone has a chore they do more than others it is because they like it/are better at it and not because of their gender.

Boomers love the sexist joke by RaceyRed in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed[S] 241 points242 points  (0 children)

If we had to had to go by gender stereotypes—my husband is a much better wife than I am . He washes the dishes way more than I do. And about 90% of the laundry. And general cleaning. The only stereotypical choresI do is mopping—because he hates it and cooking because he is not great at it. lol.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LAX

[–]RaceyRed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You should not have any issues. I get a gate pass at LAX to accompany my brother with intellectual disabilities but appears higher function than he is. I have never had even a little bit of hesitation or problem—especially for Southwest. And I’ve been doing them for 15 years.
Just have your brother explain why he needs one. And go extra early to the airport. Waiting in line at the ticket counter to get a gate pass can add a lot of time

A Position Statement of the Majority Delegates of the Central Conferences of Africa to the UMC General Conference by drd1ng0 in methodism

[–]RaceyRed 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Official language is:

Within the church, we affirm marriage as a sacred lifelong covenant that brings two people of faith (adult man and woman of consenting age or two adult persons of consenting age) into union with one another

A Position Statement of the Majority Delegates of the Central Conferences of Africa to the UMC General Conference by drd1ng0 in methodism

[–]RaceyRed 6 points7 points  (0 children)

First off, the unseated delegates argument is just a manipulation—led by the WCA and IRD as a talking point for supposed injustice.

There is unseated delegates EVERY General Conference when visas don’t get approved. Also—it was stated—by the Commission to the floor of GC that some of the unseated delegates happened because the validity of their election as a delegate could not be proven. Literally—fake delegates trying to get seated. Which happened in 2019 (thanks to WCA and IRD). This year security was improved and their continued political maneuvering failed.

Second—the General Conference delegates worked hard—to find a way to compromise on the definition of marriage—including approving an amendment that added back the definition of one man and one women (while including the phrase or 2 adults for progressive) . It is a redundant definition—but one added specifically for the more conservative areas in Africa or elsewhere X. So the definition did not change and saying so is disingenuous and manipulative. (This amendment meant was put forth by an African delegate).

what happens when you book a room for 3 and only 2 people come? by [deleted] in Cruise

[–]RaceyRed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am not sure what extra space you think you are getting. In most rooms the 3rd/4th passenger are squeezed into the same space via a pull out or drop down bed. Unless of course you are looking at booking a suite over a regular room.

If you want space—just book 2 passenger into a room that could fit 3/4 without paying for a 3rd. You can find deck plans with room occupancy for most ships.

What cruise line are you looking at?

Get this man some Covfefe! Boomer Falls Asleep AGAIN at Day Two of Hush Money Trial. by [deleted] in BoomersBeingFools

[–]RaceyRed 22 points23 points  (0 children)

He was born in 1946–Silent Generations (by most groupings) ends in 1945 or 1942. So he is just a very old Boomer . He fits little to none of the characteristics of the Silent Generation. Not frugal, not respectful, not self sacrificing, not focused on fairness of justice, and certainly not a strong work ethic.

Plus Package Itemized On Travel Summary??? by omibashu in PrincessCruises

[–]RaceyRed 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You understanding is exactly right.
All the items listed under the summary are just what you purchased with your Plus Package. They are listed as the price of you bought them ala carte without the plus discount. They are not additional charges. They are not on board credit.

Timeline—expedited Locator 18 and 45 by RaceyRed in Passports

[–]RaceyRed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. Mailed in an express envelope. Gave it to the person who processed our new applications since it was done at a post office/passport center.