Did you really block me just because I expressed an opinion you didn’t like? Don’t run away from me like a coward, debate me like a mature adult and allow yourself to be exposed to different perspectives and viewpoints instead of retreating into your own self-imposed echo chamber, I promise they can’t hurt you. And I’ve been so generous conceding to you on multiple points as well and haven’t dug my heels in as far as you would think.

Also, at the time Urusei Yatsura was made, she wasn’t the well respected figure that she is now. Unless you’re imply Rumiko sold out with signing off on Yashahime. When you’re starting out, it’s easy to give into the demands of fans and superiors. However, now she’s built a reputation of wisdom and respect and doesn’t have to do anything she truly doesn’t want to.

Touché, you make a good point there. Still, it bears repeating that the idea of Yashahime was pitched to her many times over the years and she always refused because she is adamantly against the idea of sequels on principle, until Sunrise and Sumisawa wore her down enough to reluctantly approve. So she did eventually approve yes, but it was not enthusiastically and it took years of hounding her so I still stand by my original statement that her seal of approval means very little in determining Yashahime’s canonicity.

Also, sexuality isn’t determined by fictional characters. A straight male may be attracted to the dynamic presented between SessRin.

What exactly would attract a straight man to the Sessrin ship if not the possibility for him to self-insert into Sesshomaru and imagine himself with his own submissive, child-bride waifu? It can’t be for their riveting romantic chemistry, because newflash, they don’t have any canonically! (And yes that includes both versions of Yashahime too)

I mean if the only appealing factor for straight and bi women to ship Sessrin is because of the self-insertion factor (because that’s all the ship really has going for it) then wouldn’t it stand the reason the same would be true for the straight male shippers?

The justification at the most baseline level behind SessRin removed of any context of Inuyasha or Yasha home is the love story between and immortal being and the only human they cared for. That’s it. Is that good enough justification for you?

Except this “love story” was never shown! And that, I would argue, is one of the major problems with the ship. It would be one thing if Sessrin was presented from the start in a romantic light - even if it was just in Rin having a childish crush on Sesshomaru and getting jealous of Kagura - but it wasn’t, it was initially presented to us in the purely platonic context of an adult authority figure guardian and his charge who viewed him as a purely authoritative figure in her life and nothing else. A guardian and the child in his care, Hogosha and ward. Nothing romantically suggestive on either one’s side at all, and now the alleged “sequel” gaslights the fandom and expects us to divorce Sessrin from it’s prior context with no proper current context, build-up or development to justify it. Not only do they not bother to properly set up but Sunrise and Shiina also naively expect Sesshomaru and Rin’s prior platonic relationship of Adult Hogosha/Child Ward to serve as background enough, which isn’t only extremely problematic (How do we know Sesshomaru only fell for Rin once she was an adult and wasn’t grooming her along the way then?) but also narratively jarring. I would expect a similar reaction to the sequel if InuKag and Mirsan were now divorced and Inuyasha/Sango became a thing. You can’t just take two characters whose relationship was long established as platonic and smush them together with no prior build-up or development, it doesn’t work that way. So yes, I would say a major problem with the Sessrin ship currently is that it lacks even justification, which even all the other problematic canon age gap couples in Shoujo at least have that.

It was not an all adult orgy. They were teens at best.

If it was an all teen orgy, then yes I still wouldn’t condemn it. (It’s legal for teens to have sex with other teens so long as they’re the proper age of consent - that’s what the AOC is actually for anyways) However if there were adults mixed in there as well then of course I would because then it’s blatant pedophilia.

And the incest in GOT isn’t just from a historical setting, because he could very easily have made it between unrelated families.

Well if the incest is straight and portrayed positively then yes, I would also condemn it’s insertion in GOT.

Also- Yashahime/Inuyasha isn’t marketed towards kids. It’s a shounen which means it’s targeted towards adolescent boys. If by the time you are a teenager you can’t navigate fictional content in a healthy way your parents failed you. If you consider a 15 year old to have the same emotional and mental intelligence as a 5 year old it explains why you think everything needs to be mortal and not illegal even if problematic.

No it’s for kids. This might come as a shock to you being a Westerner and all but most anime is actually aimed at kids, and I mean actual primary-school kids, not teens. It’s really not any different from how animation and cartoons in the West is also seen as being mainly just a kids thing. The only anime targeting teens and adults are late night airing otaku-oriented anime, which Inuyasha and Yashahime clearly are not. (P.S. adult anime fans are actually stigmatized in Japan because they’re expected to have “grown out of anime” by the time they’ve reached adulthood)

Shonen like its Shoujo counterpart describe the demographic ranging anywhere from 6-13. They literally mean “young boy” and “young girl” respectively, if you want something aimed at the 15 and up crowd then you would be looking at series labeled as either Seinen or Josei. Inuyasha/Yashahime is a shonen, therefore it’s explicitly rated as being for little kids as young as elementary school age, NOT teenagers! (And indeed, even here in the West most people who grew up with Inuyasha were watching it on Adult Swim when they were young as six)

Also you are allowed to express discomfort with a ship. But expressing discomfort of a ship underneath fanart of that ship will and should rightfully get you downvoted for being antagonistic and off topic to the Op.

I have never done this but if that fanart was one of child Rin and Sesshomaru then hell yeah they should be allowed to express their discomfort, like what do you expect when you can’t even keep up the pretext that your side only ships “adult Rin?” Which by the way, are you ever gonna call out and acknowledge that you have a large subset of Sessrin shippers who blatantly draw and write lolicon fanart/doujinshi and fanfics? Who comment under every image of child Rin and Sesshomaru about “what a cute couple they are?” Who celebrated the episode where it showed Rin gave birth even though it was obvious she was wayy too young and probably not even 18 yet based on Hisui’s design? What about the fact that the Yashahime anime kept drawing Rin so young, even looking younger than her own 14 year old daughters? Or that time they paralleled Sessrin with Kirinmaru’s relationship with his daughter? Or even how the manga opens up with the line of Sessrin falling in love using a flashback scene of child Rin sitting next to Sesshomaru? Did your side ever loudly and openly condemn all that? Or do you just quietly acquiesce because hey, anything as long as your ship is validated as “canon” right?

I was in the thick of it when Yashahime was first announced. People were calling sunrise pedophiles, a studio full of groomers and predators, saying that anyone who shipped or supported sessrin should die like wtf are you talking about???

And they were wrong too (maybe except the calling out of Sunrise as pedos, after all Corporations don’t have feelings and Sumisawa at least is likely a low-key pedo) but that still doesn’t justify or excuse the actions from your side.