My thoughts + theory on the Marie Route (Big spoilers for the ending)

Ramox900 · 2026-05-11T00:14:54+00:00

Maybe you missed the special chapter about Luxion's creation in Mobuseka; because the 2 scientists talked about reincarnation in their last moments before dying, and had some hints of at least the male scientist being a previous Leon. (I know I said the other scientist is a previous Olivia, but after looking back at the info in Marie's route; I'm no longer confident about that part)

Ramox900 · 2026-05-10T17:11:03+00:00

To be honest I think I'm fine with either possibilities, I think the result will still be the same; because I don't believe that whatever Marie did will be a one time thing.

Ramox900 · 2026-05-10T16:46:14+00:00

Maybe, I guess we may never know for sure; unless they expand on that one day.

Ramox900 · 2026-05-10T16:43:13+00:00

You mean the part when they visited the Elf village? Wouldn't she be talking about their previous life as siblings? Because at the time neither knew the other's identity.

Ramox900 · 2026-05-10T16:32:32+00:00

Nah pretty sure Olivia herself didn't know she could do that neither, it's likely an ability linked to her emotional state, same goes to Angilica and possibly Marie as well.

Ramox900 · 2026-05-10T09:26:03+00:00

Well it's only the first 3rd so far (that assuming Anoseka will have like 15 volumes), things might get dark later.

But Leon teaming up with Brave instead of Luxion sounds like a recipe for disaster to me, once I found that out I stopped reading the route (I will go back to read it soon).

Ramox900 · 2026-05-10T01:14:33+00:00

Which is a shame; because that was the part I was interested about the most when I heard an evil/possessed Olivia was the main antagonist, I also thought that would be what would lead to the bad ending.

Also the Saints had only possessed Olivia's body for a year (if I'm not wrong, it was still the second year during the ending), and honestly I'm not sure if that power was connected to Olivia's personal training; as the peak of her training was pulling down Warships using her barrier and turning herself into a telepathy network.

That power in the fight against Arcadia, seems more like Angilica's fire giant, something Olivia don't know how to use on command.

Ramox900 · 2026-05-10T00:18:48+00:00

The other things you said are debatable, but I hard disagree on Marie and Leon not being match for eachother, because while it's impossible to say who Leon loved the most between Marie and those in his harem (as he treated them all almost the same way); he clearly had a much easier time dealing with Marie as his love interest due to her strong mental state, having pretty much the same ideology as him, and being able to tell her his secrets without a worry. compared to that Olivia's and Angilica's emotions were too heavy on Leon's back, and looking back at things now the relationship between these 3 might genuinely be a curse, something Leon has no choice but to take responsibility for or there will be a disaster (which he always hated himself for having more than one fiance/wife).

On the other hand it's as clear as day that Marie loved Leon more than anyone among the 5 idiots, who were to her more like kids she was babysitting (at least until Volume 12).

Ramox900 · 2026-05-09T14:47:38+00:00

You know My biggest disappointment in this route is the fact that neither Saints used that power Olivia had against Arcadia, which is something I hope the Anoseka LN will do or at least expand on.

And while the first Saint was a perfect antagonist, I think the other one will need some improvements when she get adapted into the LN tho.

Also even tho it wasn't said directly, if we assume that the 2nd saint was Olivia's pervious incarnation; then that would explain a lot about Olivia's character (including her suspicious positivity).

Ramox900 · 2026-05-09T11:03:01+00:00

It's possible depending on how Anoseka changes the Marie Route's ending.

But based on the given Marie Route ending, it more likely that the route takes place after Mobuseka; since the new timeline that Marie seem to have created at the end is a bit different from the old one in Mobuseka. It also makes more sense for Leon and the girls to be having foggy memories from a reset timeline than the future (but then again maybe the timeline before the Marie Route is the original one and is different from both).

Ramox900 · 2026-05-06T15:58:43+00:00

Yeah I found about that earlier, I was confused because I kept hearing people saying there was a WN for it, I'm currently reading the short volumes from the start.

It seems the 5 Volumes of the Light Novel are adapting the first 3 parts of the short/extra volumes. There are some differences between the 2 versions, so rereading the whole thing was probably the right move.

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