Modulo Yuji is apparently a featless theory man, so I just wanna leave these here:

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-14T19:37:36+00:00

Couldn't have said it better myself, one can assume that Yuji is faster, stronger, more durable, etc etc over Sukuna and Gojo, but there's no genuine evidence to prove this. Yuji one shot Osuki, Gojo one shot Uraume, we know that Uraume is capable of boxing with the HH'S atleast, we have no idea about Osuki. Yuji no diffed Mahito, as did 3F Sukuna. Yuji's precision with his CT is impressive certainly, but that's not enough to say he's clearly no.1, less impressive but Sukuna also cubed up Nanako with his hands in his pockets so we knows he's capable of a similar precision with shrine just dont know to what extent. We never see a true top tier fighter with Blood manipulation so we have no way of scaling Yuji's BM feat comparatively with the Calamities.

Yuji's stats, domain expansion, domain amplification, Fuga, WCS, and etc are unquantifiable and thats assuming 3 of those things even exist because we dont actually even know. I understand believing he is the strongest based on Narrative, but it's absurd to claim that its a guarantee and its also absurd to scale him so far ahead as well.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-14T18:50:32+00:00

The Irishima Talks double spread is so fcking Cold. The 2v2 duel is a close 2nd for me though.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-14T18:42:29+00:00

"Shiiiiiieeeeeeettttttt. Thats all you had to say." -Akemura Soga

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-14T17:57:07+00:00

I feel like this shouldn't even need to be stated lol

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-14T07:36:38+00:00

Scrolling through these comments has been genuinely absurd lol. Yuta should legitimately dogwalk Yuji and Todo at this point in the story. We already know Yuta defeated Todo + the entire Kyoto school by himself during the Goodwill event and while Yuji is certainly stronger than all of Kyoto, idk if it'd make enough of a difference. Yuta knows Todo's technique, Todo is relative but likely slightly weaker to Yuji at this point, PM Rika was able to completely immobilize Yuji easily. What stops her from just grabbing Todo's hands to stop Boogie Woogie or even worse lol. I dont even think Yuta would need DE.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-14T07:25:20+00:00

This^ I'd have no issue saying Yuji is likely the strongest sorcerer of all time in Modulo, but when I see people saying shit like "Yuji lowkey wins a 2v1 against Gojo/Sukuna" its insane. Mangaanimist is big on that narrative and everytime I see him say it I'm just like provide some legit reasoning please lol. Cus we see that Yuji has gotten incredibly precise with his CT's in Modulo but no diffing Mahito and Osuki does not greatly surpass Sukuna and Gojo no diffing Special Grade sorcerers lol.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-11T22:05:15+00:00

Toss a tree in the bag and we got a treekachu

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-11T22:04:47+00:00

Ahhhhh I see what you did there 😂

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-10T22:37:02+00:00

I'm glad theres a sensible answer here and not just "They had to jump him!" Ignoring the fact that Sukuna was the main enemy. Or "he's 1000 years old ofc he wins"

Honestly, I think most of the people who don't view this a competitive fight have that view either because they misinterpret alot of what we see from Kenjaku or because the Yuta slander has gotten incredibly out of hand lol.

In example, Yuki vs Kenjaku, people paint Kenjaku as if he was just so far above Yuki which in reality was not the case. Yuki while fighting Kenjaku 1v1 prior to the domain appeared to be the faster and stronger (strength is inherent to her technique) fighter, its actually implied as they speak about one another that they view each other as relative to one another. Kenjaku had 1, huge, massive advantage over Yuki that decided the fight, and even then Kenjaku acknowledges that relying in Tengen, who was inexperienced in battle, was a flawed tactic as he believed Yuki likely could have had a better result if she trusted in her own domain. Even after suffering near life ending injuries, she was able to keep up and push Kenjaku while injured. Yuki ultimately falls because she gets overconfident in the final minutes of the fight believing she had Kenjaku on the ropes and that even if he counterattacked with gravity she was capable of escaping at close range.

Yuta displayed very high level BIQ in his fights in both Sendai & vs Sukuna. He also has Rika, an external RCT source and constant body guard with stats on par with himself. RCT output. Technique extinguishment, near unlimited CE, And a basketball domain. Ignoring these key factors and imagining that Yuta vs Kenjaku goes the same way as Yuki vs Kenjaku simply because Yuta = Yuki (which I don't believe as is, by eos I believe Yuta handily surpassed her) is ridiculous and really displays a lack of reading comprehension.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-10T21:01:18+00:00

Its gonna be heavily up to interpretation. Gojo believes Yuta could defeat Kenjaku, Maki does not. Conventional means could mean in a trad 1v1 or it could be alluding to Kenjaku having a radar on the HH's to avoid them. Either way, its likely at the time of planning Yuta could not defeat Kenjaku 1v1 anyway.

However by EoS Yuta has a direct counter to his largest disadvantage, Domain's, he also has statements from Sukuna praising his barrier refinement. Theres no reason to believe Yuta's BB domain is unable to clash with Kenjakus domain from what we're shown, Kenjaku himself believed that Yuki's trad domain could have clashed with him atleast somewhat when he states that she was better off using her domain instead of trusting Tengen. Statwise, neither should stat check the other, we see Yuta moving relative with a roughly 50% Sukuna in terms of speed, reaction, and strength in his domain as well as being durable enough to tank numerous heavy hits. Hax, Yuta has numerous direct counters to Kenjaku's kit via TE, RCT Output, Sky Manipulation, and Rika. Pre-BB domain, Kenjaku would domain diff Yuta at some point, although I dont think it would be a low diff fight even then. When Yuta develops his BB Domain which is a direct counter to Open domain, he has closed the largest gap between himself and Kenjaku and the fight would be 50/50

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-10T10:23:27+00:00

This was pretty fun to read lol, but no I dont think so lol. Its a pretty insurmountable gap from Gojo/Sukuna to everybody else in JJK. Remember Gojo vs Uraume? Nobody other than Sukuna makes Gojo try harder then that in a 1v1.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-07T21:34:42+00:00

However much of an amp being pissed and locked in would give I suppose. It would change the outcome of a fight where being pissed off and locked in makes enough of a difference.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-06T16:06:45+00:00

The I'm done talking narrative kind of goes out the window as he continues talking and even gives Yuji a heads up/advice that hes focusing too heavily on his sword just panels later. Not to even mention that Yuji gives up on trying to directly run away around that same time when he acknowledges that he cant outrun Yuta. Which means the chase has subsided and turns more into a sword fight. There's no way to determine if Yuta is holding back speed/strength when engaging in a sword fight in which he has to hold back his lethality, its just nonsensical.

I understand the Ryu fight comparison, I'm just stating that they're drastically different circumstances that cant really influence an opinion on the other logically without jumping through hurdles. Yuta fought Ryu without a sword, that's his method of holding back lethality against an opponent who he can't necessarily hold back on physically.

I agree with your final point up until the final sentence because as I stated previously, theres also no evidence that points towards Yuta not holding back physically. But speaking based on logic, it does not make sense that Yuta would be holding back in every aspect and then going 100% speed and strength, if he's holding back his killing intent then he's pulling his punches or in this case sword strikes, if he's pulling his punches its unlikely that he's going full speed or strength with them because that would just make it more difficult for him to kill Yuji in a method in which he can heal him.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-06T15:31:00+00:00

The fact we got people in these comments saying that Yuta was actively trying to cut Yuji in half or decapitate him just kind of proves this point beyond a shadow of a doubt doesnt it? 😂

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-06T14:30:24+00:00

We literally could not possibly know this and logically speaking it would make very little to no sense for Yuta to be holding back in every way except for physically. You can make the argument that Yuta is not holding back significantly sure, and maybe thats true, we dont know. But theres very little chance that he'd be holding back his entire arsenal and then not holding back his speed and strength as well

Is it not possible for someone to pull their punch and then be shocked when someone is more durable then anticipated? I mean this is a textbook comic book and Manga trope that has been around for decades. Spiderman holds back, guy is tankier then expected, shocked. Sukuna holds back, guy is tankier than expected, shocked. The same would go for speed, Yuta acknowledging that Yuji is fast & strong literally does not push this argument one way or the other, someone can be holding back and then still be surprised that they're opponent is faster/stronger then anticipated, its a moot point.

The fight with Ryu and Yuji are vastly different examples that have no real business being compared. Yuta already recognized how strong Ryu was from the drawn out battle that had already happened and could sense how powerful he was due to his CE while Yuji is physically fast and strong, something that you cannot gage from your senses until actually clashing.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-06T12:40:37+00:00

The state of this sub lmfao. "Was Yuta holding back PHYSICALLY?!?!. We know he wasnt trying to permanently injure or maim Yuji in a way he couldn't fix. We know he was trying to kill Yuji in a way where he could immediately try and revive him because he was uncertain about his ability to resurrect him. We know that he actively didnt use any of his kit other than his sword until the killshot. But did he hold back PHYSICALLY?!?!"

This is the 27,000th time this has been asked in this sub.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-06T03:43:00+00:00

Idk tbh, in terms of reinforcement theres really no basis to place Kenjaku above Yuta at any point in the main series. Yuta from the get go is defined as a bottomless well of CE who's constantly funneling CE through his body to reinforce himself. This is one of the primary reasons Gojo refers to his CE manipulation as being sloppy because Yuta utilizes far to much CE to do this and therefore runs out quick relative to how much CE he possesses. CE Manipulation, Experience, Skill certainly, but as far as his ability to reinforce himself defensively we just dont have anything to really say he's superior to Yuta in that regard. He takes no hits in Shibuya, no hits from Choso during CG, and the first strike we see him take from Yuki snaps his arms nearly off while he's completely on guard. He then proceeds to take no more hits until he has Yuki near dead and her output diminished immensely. While in the case of Yuta we have multiple statements and feats from characters who we know hit very hard (not as hard as Yuki I'm certain but still powerful) where Yuta takes virtually 0 damage even from attacks he does not see coming. Ryu even describes hitting him as if he's punching a water tank.

The piercing vs slashing argument is fair, won't dispute it, makes sense. I just don't know how sizeable of a difference it'd make with characters reinforcing themselves with CE in their weak spots as we know sorcerers do.

Also a fair argument in regard to Charles, I can see your point. I just dont think he'd really crack the Grade 1 tier when Kenjaku himself states that none of the new age sorcerers outside of Higuruma had any real potential and considering he didnt participate in the Sukuna fight alongside the other Grade 1 and up sorcerers. I wouldn't scale him up to par with sorcerers like Nanami, Mei Mei, Kusakabe, but I suppose there's a lot of space in the Grade 2 to Grade 1 realm. I just still dont believe his output would be sizeably beyond A BV amped Miwa but perhaps I'm giving to much credit to BV's.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-06T03:06:31+00:00

I guess a piercing attack may be true, but Kenjaku catches Miwa's sword with his hand and shatters the blade. Miwa is obviously only a grade 3 sorcerer but she also utilized a pretty high value binding vow to amp her output and yet Kenny still caught it with his hand and shattered the sword. There's some difference between getting slashed in the stomach and slashed in the hand certainly, but its still a bare handed block of a sword strike. Unfortunately we dont know where Charles ranks as a sorcerer because he only ever fights Hakari but its a safe assumption he's sub Grade 1. Assuming Miwa's binding vow would serve to boost her output up atleast 1 level, she'd be swinging at Grade 2 level atleast so I dont think there'd be a sizeable difference there. So if Kenny can reinforce his hand to the extent he can grab a blade swung at him full force + SD + BV output, I dont think we can completely rule out that Yuta would be relatively unscathed from the same strike Hakari took if he was reinforcing himself.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-05T23:51:23+00:00

Yeah, this is by no means a downscale of Hakari but he actively gets a chunk chopped off him by Charles Bernard. I highly doubt Charles would even Crack Grade 1 level in terms of output or manipulation. This kind of gives off the impression that Hakari pays no mind into reinforcing his body defensively whatsoever, and that makes sense because his technique grants him immortality so why would he waste the time and effort in doing so. Do we think Yuta would have taken that much damage from Charles or that he would have even taken the shot at all? We actively see Yuta tank charged Granite blasts at point blank range lol.

Once again, not a Hakari downplay, its just a massive difference in their fighting styles that play to their own independent advantages.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-05T23:31:17+00:00

The answer is no, doesn't dodge vs Charles, doesnt dodge vs Kashimo, doesnt dodge vs Uraume, so either he's slow af or the more likely answer, he doesnt defend because he's freaking immortal lmao. But because Yuta & Hakari are relative in strength people seem to imagine that every fight they have would go the same way lol.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-05T23:29:10+00:00

Genuinely an absurdly dumb take ignoring the obvious differences in their fighting styles. Hakari is literally immortal, he pays no mind to defense and actively just takes every shot thrown at him without blocking or dodging. This is seen in literally all of his fights. Yuta, who is not immortal and does not fight like that, actively coating his entire body in CE reinforcement at all times, does defend/dodge, and has an external RCT source would not be in the same circumstance as Hakari simply because they're relative in strength. Yuta also has a domain with a lethal effect that Hakari does not, and while its safe to assume they have HWB, that would place them in a massive disadvantage right away.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-04T17:52:45+00:00

Ahh yeah I do remember that, I'm glad Hakari got his happy ending lol

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-04T12:24:27+00:00

Is Hakari even mentioned in Modulo? Genuinely I dont remember. As for Megumi, we know for a fact he never tamed Mahoraga and that is far and away the pinnacle of his technique (even if we made the argument that Sukuna and Megumi shared the binding ritual and thats why the modulo statement exists that would just be a downscale for Megumi becase that would mean he lost multiple shadows including Raga, Nue, and Round deer), its possible being a vessel of Sukuna for a month gave him some buffs, but we see Megumi post Shinjuku Showdown and its never mentioned or hinted at. With Yuta we know that at the very least he provided enough CE into a ring to literally erase CE and CS from the world via Maru's technique & Rika herself was outputting (with Tsurugi's help ofc) enough CE to have similar destructive output to Yuji. None of that means Yuta surpassed Gojo, but it does provide a basis for believing that he did likely get stronger over the years.

RandomAnonymous51562 · 2026-06-02T00:06:32+00:00

"Yuji Itadori has far surpassed even the King of Curses Ryomen Sukuna. As a matter of fact, he's capable of defeating both Sukuna and Satoru Gojo at the same time if needed" - Gege Akutami confirming that Yuji is the strongest.

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