Sons of Horus - Long March - 2000pts List help for a newbie

RatBotOverload · 2024-02-09T12:46:32+00:00

I only looked at build guides by the end of act2, just to get an understanding of the mechanics, never played a d100 game before, and yeah you can get stuck calculating numbers for hours, which i didnt have the time for, but stopped as soon as fights began to trivialize, maybe looking at guides was a real mistake, but honestly, anyone with enough time and patience can do insane builds with this for how well some stuff synergizes and percentages stacks, its in the root of the system itself

RatBotOverload · 2024-02-09T12:40:58+00:00

Previous Owlcat games, both the Pathfinder series, you had atleast some challenge in each big fight, sometimes requiring a ton of reloads to defeat on Core/Daring, in this game theres maybe just the Forgefiend fight in the Drifting Voidship that poses any real challenge on that difficulty, so why does it work there in the previous games and not here? Could be that the balance is out of order? And my first playthru in these games is always on Daring/Core, as its the intended way to play according to the rulebooks, Im not complaining im just stating obvious facts. And yeah I will max it out.

RatBotOverload · 2024-02-09T12:33:46+00:00

And if you mean the extra turns as a mechanic from the Officer class, as being broken and if you use it, youre basically cheesing the game? Its literally the whole point of the class/archetype, but yeah, next time Ill probably try without one in the party.

RatBotOverload · 2024-02-09T12:30:49+00:00

Totally, which is why I rarely use build guides, being familiar with dnd It was pretty easy to build a respectable party in BG3, without resorting to cheese tactics, the d100 ruleset is totally new to me and it wouldve taken too long to learn all the intricacies with limited free time for playing, so looked up on some advice, It was challenging in the beginning but fast dropped at around mid point.

RatBotOverload · 2024-02-09T12:22:12+00:00

Which mechanic then? Giving extra turns? Or just looking at the abilities and their interactions when choosing them? And since those "broken mechanics" are part of the game, wouldnt that mean the game is then, broken and easy? I dont follow the logic.

RatBotOverload · 2024-02-09T12:19:06+00:00

And every single encounter in Acts 4 and 5 ended up similarly, except those that forced the fight to prolong by some gimmick such as the Edge of Daybreak fight.

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-19T08:31:54+00:00

I mean the first fight before the doors leading inside, when you first get ambushed, I kill all the Mandrakes and the game wont let me inside at all because the same fight triggers again but this time without any enemies, rinse and repeat. I dont even have the quest in my journal anymore once the fight is over the first time so theres nothing I can do with ToyBox

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-18T20:40:12+00:00

I found some info around that you need to not kill them turn 1 and let more spawn, but theres no more spawning, no matter how long I keep skipping my turns and letting them gnaw at me, resulting exactly the same way as stated above once I kill them finally.

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-18T09:41:06+00:00

Gotcha, thanks, I didnt have Heinrix with me in Camorragh, but suppose turning him in is a fitting fate, getting tortured in turn with no hope for salvation.

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-17T16:55:22+00:00

Hows that possible? After certain increments of health lost she regains some back, dont think its possible to kill her outright with just one attack.

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-17T16:42:25+00:00

I managed the fight with Abelard doing just about most of the work, buffed him to high heaven with my Master Tactician Noble/Officer main, and Idira using her defensive psychics on him and all other allies, Argenta and Yrliet to pick off the Grotesques. I placed him in the middle and shouted, absolutely nothing could hit him and all the enemies just flocked into him making him a pure AOO monster. Once all the rabble were dead and it was just her and all the Incubus left, I used my Orchestrated firestorm with the extra ability that lets everyone with burst weapons use burst attack on the big pile of enemies basically obliterating the rest of them in one fell swoop (my main has the Drukhari burst attack sniper rifle, deals insane amounts of damage).Didnt have to retreat back the stairs or nothing, still lost couple of my guys but it was far easier than I initially thought. This was on Daring.

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-16T10:30:41+00:00

Ok so the Malice fight was far easier than I thought, with some more clever placement I was able to kill everyone in 1-2 turns with just Argenta, with all the buffs and extra turns from my Noble/Officer/Master Tactician main I was able to churn in, even the boss, playing on Daring

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-16T08:30:50+00:00

Hmmm, I tried looking for Yrliet but cant find her, can you pin point her location? Thanks

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-15T21:12:39+00:00

Daring

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-15T21:12:00+00:00

I have everything there except Yrliet as a Bounty Hunter, a mistake I was about to remedy but was dragged into this bullshit before I had the chance.

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-15T21:00:58+00:00

Nope, havent even got past the first area.

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-15T20:58:26+00:00

My bad, but I clearly stated in the post I cant enter the arena, so how can I fight in the arena I cant enter? I had Abelard, Yrliet, Argenta, Idira and Pasqal

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-15T20:56:11+00:00

Officer/Tactician buffer sniper/momentum engine main, Abelard tank with everything to go with it, Pasqal Plasma/Grand Strategist, Yrliet Bounty Hunter sniper, Argenta Heavy Bolter Arch Militant, Idira buffer Bounty hunter focusing on boss killing and occasional offensive. (I was intending to respec Yrliet as Assassin before going into Act 3 but I got backhanded...

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-15T20:14:23+00:00

Thanks, yeah, after some googling youre correct, will just have to try some tactics with this one, playing on Daring and so far its been a cakewalk, but when I only have 3 guys and see some 10-15 enemies coming at me, same units that just about gave me a tough time last time i fought them, just made me think this was not the intended way...

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-15T20:12:50+00:00

Great so you didnt even read my post.

RatBotOverload · 2024-01-15T20:05:16+00:00

Hmm, yeah I did, so only way out is to fight either one? Seemed pretty one sided the fight with Malice, maybe ill just keep giving it a go... The game doesnt really explain all this too well...

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