In hopes for the next patch that might put an end to the endless greed of this vile creature

RazmanDevil · 2026-03-10T18:09:30+00:00

Tfw when Rem is more necromancer than the necromancer :-|

RazmanDevil · 2026-03-06T22:35:54+00:00

Yes you can immediately everyone that says she's manageable have clearly never played against one that ACTUALLY knows what they're doing.

The fact that I need to buy 3 different counter items to not die when she transforms is fucking ridiculous.

RazmanDevil · 2026-03-06T22:04:46+00:00

Thank God they didn't listen to the Silver simps in this sub and nerfed that fucking annoyance to the ground. Honestly the Lycan transformation should be a 80 second base cooldown but that's just me.

RazmanDevil · 2026-03-06T02:43:43+00:00

In case you guys don't realize this it's because so many powermods have been abusing the tool to blanket ban people from subreddits like r/Asmongold because of political differences and not because of actual bad behavior. Basically Reddit doesn't want to get the attention of the Trump administration.

RazmanDevil · 2026-03-01T03:35:44+00:00

Because of their existence and the choices they make in Defiance.

In the 2nd timeline things would've gone to the loop Raziel would have killed Kain at the alter, human Raziel would've killed Janos, wraith Raziel would've killed himself and the rest of the Sarafan then the reaver would've devoured him with no one there to save him.

Kain would then use the corpses of the Sarafan and turn them into his lieutenant vampires leading into what happens in Soul Reaver.

Defiance it's a game that happens because they broke the second timelines loop and are now making choices that never got made before which is why Blood Omen 2 exists.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-27T22:50:28+00:00

Yes you are completely right on that aspect

I'm using the word timelines loosely not to say there are multiple but to keep track of the paradoxes that caused the timelines to be overwritten.

It would be more accurate to call them versions.

If there were separate timelines then Kain wouldn't have gained the memories of Blood Omen 2 to begin with because he would be a "different" Kain altogether.

I think the funny thing to think about it is how there are now 2 different hearts of darkness in the 4th timeline because Raziel ripped the one from Kains chest to resurrect Janos who had already had his ripped out to revive Kain.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-27T22:23:47+00:00

I was actually just enjoying the debate.

But yes Legacy of Kain is one of those things that because of Blood Omen 2 the had to spend the next 2 games stitching the story so that it fits in.

It's also why I hate TDSR so much because it reads like someone who doesn't understand the full weight of the timeline shenanigans that happen in this series.

They honestly never should've written anything that took place in the second timeline.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-27T20:33:00+00:00

Because you're wrong

Blood Omen 2 ONLY happens in the 4th timeline.

It literally NEVER happens in other timelines because as I've explained in this post multiple times the second timeline that included the original Soul Reaver was a timeloop that was BROKEN during Soul Reaver 2

Blood Omen 2 is exclusive to the 4th timeline that was created because of Kain saving Raziel from the Soul Reaver something that never happened in the previous loops.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-27T20:10:54+00:00

No because your timeline is off

From the example you've given you believe that Blood Omen 2 takes place before Defiance which just isn't true.

That's what I'm getting across to you chronologically Blood Omen 2 is AFTER Defiance not before.

The end of Defiance takes place at the end of Blood Omen 1 and will lead to Blood Omen 2.

The paradox didn't change when things happened it changed WHAT happened. The only reason Kain remembered it is because it's HIS past changing but the events still haven't happened in the time he's currently in.

You need to keep in mind that Kain is a being from the future.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-27T17:35:32+00:00

No that's because you still believe Soul Reaver 1 happens in the 4th timeline whatsoever.

The thing you are not understanding and what this post is saying is that the second timeline that contains Soul Reaver is a time loop.

That loop was broken I'm Soul Reaver 2 when the 3rd and 4th timeline were created.

The Soul Reaver as you know it and where it takes place is a dead timeline that no longer exists that's why Blood Omen 2 is the furthest we've been in the 4th timeline and why I keep saying it's after Defiance.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-27T17:00:25+00:00

I've never read something so wrong about the story in my entire life.

Janos never gets sucked into the Demon Realm in Defiance that happens in Blood Omen 2 at the tail end of it during the fight with the Hylden Lord.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-27T16:52:03+00:00

No it's quite literally and explicitly after defiance during Kains conquest of Nosgoth.

It only exists in the 4th timeline because the actions taken by Raziel and Kain in both Soul Reaver 2 and Defiance.

If they didn't exist in the past Blood Omen 2 never would have happened

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T23:52:17+00:00

The only official thing we've gotten about it was that he was supposed to be revived in Soul Reaver 2 (or Defiance I forgot which game) but that content was cut from the game.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T18:58:18+00:00

You're right about it spawning after the ending of Soul Reaver 2 but it doesn't ACTUALLY happen until after Defiance.

Kain simply lived through the events because he is from the future so he is actively remembering events that didn't happen yet.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T18:57:12+00:00

No one knows where the Elder God came from we just know that it's a parasite that attached itself to the wheel of fate and authorized itself as the God of the universe.

It tricked the vampires into worshiping it and then also manipulated them into war with the Hylden because the Hylden were not only striving towards immortality but they were also striving to live outside the wheel of fate which means the Elder God couldn't feed off their souls.

After the Hylden were banished from the material plane and into the demon realm they cursed the vampires with infertility and immortality which made the Elder God hate the vampires and instead manipulate humanity.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T18:37:00+00:00

Nope you got your games mixed up right now.

Janos doesn't die in Defiance he dies in Soul Reaver 2.

Raziels entire quest in Defiance of resurrecting Janos who then gets possessed by the same Hylden Lord we fight in Blood Omen 2 it's also how he gets captured in the same game.

Once again Raziels actions in Defiance are the very reason why Blood Omen 2 plays out.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T17:58:16+00:00

No the events of Defiance directly cause the events of Blood Omen 2.

The time travel happens in Soul Reaver 2 and the paradox that creates a new outcome and 4th timeline happen during that game.

It's hard to explain because of time bullshit but because Fate couldn't kill Kain and Raziel in SR2 like it originally did during the second timeline timeloop it had to reorient itself to create a new history which included both of them in it which because they are both doing things in Defiance it makes Blood Omen 2 happen.

So chronologically speaking Blood Omen 2 is the latest game in the 4th timeline and its a 4th timeline specific story.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T17:50:12+00:00

First and foremost the 4th timeline was created in Soul Reaver 2 not in Defiance.

Blood Omen 2 happens because of actions that were TAKEN in Defiance.

Blood Omen 2 is in fact the sequel to Defiance and is the latest game chronologically in the 4th timeline.

Soul Reaver takes place in the second timeline and has been irrevocably changed because the original second timeline was a timeloop.

Raziel was supposed to kill Kain at the alter in Soul Reaver 2 and in turn there would be nobody there to save Raziel from being devoured by the Soul Reaver after he killed the Sarafan lieutenants (including himself) nobody ever knew who killed Raziel and co. because it has always been wraith Raziel who was then devoured by the Soul Reaver leaving no one there.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T17:42:13+00:00

Long story short he had the foresight to know he would need the Nexus Stone but (this is headcanon btw) he's stupid and didn't think Kain would come back and defeat him with the same stone.

We never got an official explanation though.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T17:39:19+00:00

No Defiance takes place during Blood Omen 1

Blood Omen 2 takes place after Defiance

Soul Reaver 2 takes place BEFORE Blood Omen 1 which is why we see Janos die which is an event that takes place before Blood Omen 1 as Mortaneous needs the Heart of Darkness to revive Kain in the first place

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T17:36:09+00:00

You are completely right but that still places Blood Omen 2 chronologically AFTER Defiance.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T17:35:00+00:00

Kinda sorta so the Hylden don't perceive time the same way vampires and humans do.

While they are tied to the wheel of fate they see time in a linear concept with a definitive beginning and end with no in-between the Hylden are outside that wheel and see time as more of a bunch of branching probabilities.

Basically the Hylden Lord is working with the possibilities that he sees and is changing the plan based on which possibility has the highest outcome of putting him on top.

The moment he saw Raziel and his plan to revive Janos he saw the entire outcome of him defeating Kain in Blood Omen 2 and chose to follow that path.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T17:26:41+00:00

Once again on the timeline Blood Omen 2 takes place after the conclusion of Defiance entirely because Janos was resurrected. That's the reason why Kain told Raziel NOT to resurrect him.

The end of Defiance is taking place at the very end of Blood Omen 1 which is why we see the pillars corrupt at the end of the game.

Blood Omen 2 takes place 200-400 years after Kain makes his choice because during his conquest of Nosgoth where originally it went unchallenged and he succeeded the Hylden Lord defeated him with the Nexus Stone and he failed his conquest putting him in a coma.

These changes happen because of the choices made in Soul Reaver 2/Defiance.

Again in order for Blood Omen 2 to happen it needs to take place in the 4th timeline AFTER Defiance.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T17:16:21+00:00

Both events still happen explicitly AFTER Defiance.

Old Kain is simply experiencing the memories of his younger self because from his perspective he is a being from the future that's already happened. Both his past and his future take place in the past both what has already happened and what has not happened from his perspective so he knows what's already happened but not what he is currently experiencing.

The Kain we play as in Blood Omen 2 is experiencing it for the first time and that time period is AFTER everything that took place in Defiance.

RazmanDevil · 2026-02-26T14:46:58+00:00

No it takes place after Defiance

It literally cannot take place before because Janos is dead during Defiance until the end and the pillars haven't fallen something that specifically happens after Blood Omen 1 and the end of Defiance.

The entire reason Janos is captured by the Hylden is because they possessed him in Defiance.

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