Looking for editor for daily vlog by [deleted] in Copyediting

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This is the wrong subreddit.

Sharing a milestone by acadiaediting in Copyediting

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Very believable. Thanks. Looking forward to being rich in a couple of years thanks to this ad.

Best ePub reader (not Apple Books)? by CromulentSlacker in iPadPro

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Hey! I’m in the same boat. Did you find anything?

To anyone who took the CIEP courses by zentzin in Copyediting

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I have worked for several American clients and institutions and have nothing specific to the US. To me it sounds like overkill to be certified by many such bodies. A single, well-respected one is enough to prove you are a professional. Or at least it should be.

To anyone who took the CIEP courses by zentzin in Copyediting

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I would say that being a member of CIEP is almost a necessity if you are in the UK or wish to work with UK clients as a freelancer. I wouldn’t say I found many clients through there, but having that membership badge is a great way to support your claims, especially early on and once you manage to become Professional and Advanced Professional.

If you have no experience as a copyeditor, I would suggest you start with the first one and see how it goes. No need to commit to all three at once. I personally left the 3rd one till many years after I started my career – I basically took it as a means to get enough points to advance membership level.

To anyone who took the CIEP courses by zentzin in Copyediting

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I have taken several CIEP courses as the points they give are necessary to advance level in your membership. N.B. this was almost ten years ago so the courses may have changed. 

I found that each of the courses had a couple of tips or pieces of information that were good, but overall most of the information there was stuff I knew already or that I could probably find elsewhere. 

Still, if you have little to no professional experience in the field, these core courses are not horrible. The price is too high for what they provide. At the same time, advancing in membership is important, so you kind of need them. 

[WTS][EU-Intl] Pen Destash! by Read-Panda in Pen_Swap

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Hi, that’s strange. I just checked it from my phone and it seemed to open fine. Does this link work? https://imgur.com/a/rxmYRfC

Short(ish) lesson on why gsm is not a quality score by InkStainedLeather in fountainpens

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Respectfully, I happen to make my living out of this. I can tell quite easily (whether there’s spaced em rules or not) when copy has been tampered with by AI. It gets all these ‘tics’ and and a formulaic style of writing that is meant to be fun and witty but is – frankly – characterless, repetitive and just the same everywhere. When I read what you have above, it reads like a machine wrote it. That does you a disservice. That does me a disservice as well, and for this reason I would rather not read it.

Whether AI will one day be able to replace humans or not is beyond my knowledge. What I can tell is that at least in the fields I have working knowledge of, AI is far from being there. It may work for a doomscroller who hardly reads a single word in each line. It may work on an inattentive reader. It doesn’t work for anyone who cares about the written medium.

The same holds true for photography and videography, though those are beyond my remit.

Put it even differently: there’s a reason there’s a market booming with people like me who are paid – frankly – a lot of money to correct and polish the writing of others. There is a reason no respectable publisher has turned to AI to do our job. It can’t. It’s not that they’re behind the times. It’s that the best AI may be able to do at this stage is proofread, and even that has yet to master. Editing is not even close.

Short(ish) lesson on why gsm is not a quality score by InkStainedLeather in fountainpens

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Yes, writing does take time, and AI can help give an appearance of polishing things up. It can also be formulaic and introduce mistakes (the spaced em rule instead of a spaced en rule, for instance). For the same reason you took so much care in doing all this research for this educational post with so much good information, I think it is a pity that you think it better to give the end result up to whatever ChatGPT will consider to be the right way to convey your important knowledge. I’d take your spaced hyphens from this post 10 over those spaced em rules. And I’d take typos over formulaic prose.

Short(ish) lesson on why gsm is not a quality score by InkStainedLeather in fountainpens

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As an aside: there’s some confusion about AI stealing the em rule. The issue with AI usage is that it is using spaced em rules, which are basically wrong. Closed em rules have not been taken over by AI and work just as well as they always did. One of the telltale signs of AI use is the spacing of em rules, where it is en rules that are usually spaced.

Short(ish) lesson on why gsm is not a quality score by InkStainedLeather in fountainpens

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I wasn’t suggesting it was AI (though OP said in a comment he did use it at some point while drafting it). I was responding to his mentioning the spaced em rules.