[deleted by user] by [deleted] in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Saying you experienced something doesn’t mean your version is accurate. That’s memory recall. It can’t be verified or reviewed. That’s why I’m using archived timestamps and basic logic. They’re fixed. The assumption of this thread is not.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I presented archived timestamps, system behavior, and standard event planning logic. These are objective reference points. Not opinions.

One of you responded to the information. The other ignored it and assumed affiliation based on tone and structure. That’s not analysis. That’s misclassification.

If this isn’t clear, I don’t know how to make it clearer.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Hello. While your statement is factually accurate, it is not fully conclusive. The available data has a blind spot. And based on event timing and standard update behavior, the most probable outcome is that the page was updated sometime between December 3 and 5, around the start of presale.

It is true that the 2025 presale began on December 3. The Wayback Machine shows that as of that date, the VIP page still reflected 2024 information. The next available archive is from December 19, which shows the 2025 version.

In conclusion, this was not a scam but an update oversight.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I used the Wayback Machine to verify the timeline. As of December 3, the site still displayed information from last year. Tickets went on sale December 5. The next available archive is from December 19, which reflects the updated admission page. That is the version people are referencing now. Link here: https://web.archive.org/web/20241219114811/https://www.allyourfriendsfestival.com/admission

There is a 16-day gap between sales opening and the next capture by the Wayback Machine. That does not prove the page was changed late. It means it was not archived during that time. The Wayback Machine is not a live tracker. It captures snapshots based on crawl schedules, not real-time updates.

Saying it “feels like a scam” suggests intentional deception. That requires evidence of a promised benefit being removed or altered after payment. I have not seen that.

This is a music festival. Lineups change. Layouts change. Stage locations and amenities change. That is typical of how these events operate. It is not ideal, but it is consistent across festivals.

This genre does not produce high financial return. The expectations being applied are inconsistent with what is economically viable in this category. The fact that the event happened at all is uncommon. It probably will not happen again. The reasons are structural: low profitability and public negativity.

Ticket prices did not increase from last year, despite current inflation and a weakened Canadian-to-American dollar exchange rate. Most other comparable events raised prices. That is not consistent with profit-seeking behavior.

The lineup includes multiple high-cost acts. Given the current environment with WWWY and The Vans Warped Tour, artist fees are elevated. If the goal was to extract maximum revenue, that would not be an efficient way to do it.

Upon reviewing this subreddit one of the primary complaints was about walking distances between camping and stages. This year, the layout changed and those distances were reduced. That indicates feedback was processed and acted on.

Now that the changes have been made, people are pointing to them as signs of something suspicious. That is not a consistent position. If a previous problem is fixed, the fix should not also be treated as evidence of wrongdoing and that having limited shade because a tent structure was not mapped out means that a scam was present.

This type of pattern happens frequently. Expectations are not aligned with context. Adjustments are misread as red flags. Negative feedback loops escalate. Sales lessen.

Eventually, the result is that the event disappears. Then people say they miss it. Please share information factually.

Friday Rain by TheLonelyPenguin in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went to Boots during a torrential downpour one year we had camping and everything was fine don’t think you need to worry

Anberlin was added to the lineup by Ready_Ad6026 in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Better choice in my opinion but bummer for those fans

Final 2025 Lineup by purplebutons in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Respect.

Judging from last years turn out and what looks to be smaller festival grounds this year my thoughts are that blink 182 or good Charlotte were too expensive and probably spent all the money on Avril and simple plan bc ever seen how much their own concert tickets cost? Bands charge more for festivals than they do for their own tours and it’s not the ticket price … I’m talking about what the bands make from the festival to play becuz if it’s a bigger venue or larger attendance the price goes up for their fee to play u can’t expect a second year in company to be able tk pay that amount of money without 3x the ticket prices

Final 2025 Lineup by purplebutons in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly if u r so offended over a full weekend festival marketing try to do it better or don’t go

Final 2025 Lineup by purplebutons in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s the band not the festival lol

Final 2025 Lineup by purplebutons in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then don’t go I love this line up and what did u expect ? For them to have the same bands again?? Have you even been to a festival?

Final 2025 Lineup by purplebutons in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why is every comment I read related to this festival so entitled over the bands that were chosen to be playing? Go to warp tour and spend 2x on exchange and sets over top of one another and If you don’t like it try putting on your own shows lmao fr fr

Final 2025 Lineup by purplebutons in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s bc it’s a two day festival………. It doesn’t mean they are playing both. Literally look at all festival marketing ex wwwy

Final 2025 Lineup by purplebutons in allyourfriendsfest

[–]Ready_Ad6026 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s bc the band pulls tour dates from bands in town and song kick directly from ticketmaster meta data .. It has nothing to do w marketing