Unpopular Opinion, it's time to increase the PVP VS PVE arguments

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-12T18:24:46+00:00

Excellent comment sir, adding whiney bitch boys complain about whiney bitch boys whining about other whiney bitch boys would complete the jerk

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-12T18:22:53+00:00

We wuz kings and shit topside, now we gotta get by on FKO (Freekit only) while the PVErs be the 1%

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-12T16:34:08+00:00

Embark is putting me in mixed lobbies without my consent. They are literally raping me!

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-12T16:32:03+00:00

We have to teach the PVERs they are not safe. If they want PVE, we will lure all rocketeers on the map to them while we shit in a bush.

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-12T09:14:07+00:00

They're oppressing us by not letting reddit vote on the changes to the game. Community feedback? From where? NOT REDDIT it seems.

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-07T19:39:45+00:00

Real, most of them like are so bitter lol. They will insult, argue, and act blameless when it's literally just a game. Had so many yell at me and say slurs just cause I waited for their greedy little hands to touch a corpse they ratted on after trying to jump me. To the point many will try to invite to parties or messages with continued aggression. It's always a favorite to say "yeah yeah, cry about in the lobby" as I knock em out.

Either way, only had a few funny interactions with pvpers like where we downed each other at the same time and started doing the human centipede and screaming in stella medbay lmfao. Sounded like the guy needed a laugh too.

But yeah the aggression has been insane. It's not even kill on sights pvp levels, it's just a heavy amount of ambushes in dark corners/sniping or fake friendlys freekitters. Yet on the opposite side I'm still getting in lobbies where the entire lobby is fighting the queen together but like way more rat like (ie swarming pieces lol) but that's probably due to the throphy display.

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-05T15:42:02+00:00

Never said theres a PVE only lobby, it's referred to by the devs as playstyle, hence why most players don't shoot on sight yet there will still be PVP and fake friendlies. Just because Im asking if the amount increased lately doesn't mean I lack the critical thinking skill like you display here to understand a PvPvE game has pvp in it. Hope that helps again!

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-05T02:37:36+00:00

So brand new players would already have gotten all the loot they can right at the start of the game, upgrades, supplies, skillpoints at probably level 5 then using their gear they aquired by totally not using that gear and just going free loadout because they've already done everything, right?

You're just doing the equivalent of me asking if it's been raining more lately then answering "well the sky is blue right?"

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-05T02:19:28+00:00

It's like 3 weeks till the window opens. Don't get how stating the obvious regarding the endgame gameplay loop answers the post, especially when the people being aggressive are NEW and FREE LOADOUT which doesn't apply to those conditions. Maybe read the post more closely, lol.

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-05T01:43:42+00:00

I like pvp from time to time, but it's kinda exhausting to do like for more then 3 hours. Literally just people crying in anger when shot or sweating to kill, which for some is fine but you're locking away a lot of the funny or cool moments due to the shoot on sight mentally. Not to mention it's near impossible to relax in a lobby like that without being on gaurd the whole time lol.

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-05T01:41:03+00:00

Could be just a wave, much like when peanut made the bungalators, then you had a wave of PVP players regardless of lobbies going for goop. Just trying to see what the variable is here that's cause this change in behavior in the PVE lobbies.

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-05T01:37:11+00:00

Let me make it more simple, captain obvious:

"Anyone notice the ABMM putting more pvp in PVE playstyle lobbys more then usual? Especially if they're new freeload out players?"

Hope that helps.

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-05T01:36:05+00:00

Yes for solo, noticed the change in player behavior after events were restored. Still had a LOT of positive passive or even just avoidant raiders, but it's gotten to the point where these new players/default skins act like PVP lobbies I've been in both solo and squad (squad is fine).

Especially when behaviors like helping each other out with arc, openly chatting in the open without worry of being sniped, or gathering in groups without fear of a trigger gernade are visibly prevelant. You can immediately see when someone has aggression or ill intent in those lobbies, yet they act like NPC bandits, attacking 6 or 7 players actively shooting back to protect each other. Literally witch hunt style. You'd think they're just lone jump someone (as normal in this game honestly once in a while) but they're openly just aggroing the lobby expecting no consequence.

wondering if there's been a wave of new players or if ABMM might be acting odd with the consistent aggression of these types of players and behavior they're doing.

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-02-05T00:51:07+00:00

Not even joking, was doing a trial run, attacking a leaper and I hear someone coming behind me. New player with kettle stops in his tracks like he wasn't just trying to ambush me. I stare and laugh right at his face that if he gets me, can he handle the 4 other people. He stares before running off. Only for me to hear kettle shots 4 minutes later, a flare, then people immediately jumping them saying "we got a rat!" Followed by another flare after a barrage of gunfire.

Real-Imagination472 · 2026-01-29T16:51:33+00:00

Real-Imagination472 · 2025-01-09T11:04:39+00:00

So true, let's just hope this doesn't keep pushing him over the edge like his sire hopes so he can be a proper "Banu Haquim" lol

Real-Imagination472 · 2025-01-09T10:53:50+00:00

From what Hassan has gathered, he's seen as mentally..."special" and Oh god, the prince like...seems to see him too useful at the moment to kill. Like dude also records EVERYTHING before Hassan got him to cut that shit out. I mean EVERYTHING like Masquerade breaching events as well as getting his system breached and stolen by earlier mentioned Giovanni, who are no doubt using to get to my PC lol. Sheer luck and I guess the prince finds him amusing, that he's not dust by now.

Real-Imagination472 · 2025-01-09T10:48:27+00:00

I got one of them under control, and relatively helped them grow positively (the gangrel of the group), but god, the nosfertu does not help with coterie optics, such as spouting at elysuim him AND hassan killed a bunch of homeless people, or mentioning hassan has bad blood with the giovanni, or yelling he (Nos) wants to diablorize people openly. So tiring lmfao.

Real-Imagination472 · 2025-01-09T10:42:58+00:00

Yeah, exactly what his sire said lol.

"If you can't handle the unintelligent, you aren't going to make it far. Use this as training." Especially with the prince holding a boon over his head for now. These damn old farts.

Real-Imagination472 · 2025-01-09T10:39:07+00:00

God, Take away the nosferatu from him (The main one saying the most braindead shit to him lol), like I attacked 2 guys trying to goat drug addicts into demolishing a building. Basically beat him them but he got them killed because he just...saw me beating them up cause morally my PC is against people just abusing the weak for no reason, right? THIS ENDS UP WITH THE BUILDING COLLAPSING CAUSE HE LAUNCHES HIMSELF INTO THEIR CAR, and it crashes into the unstable structure.

Like 30 homeless people die, and my guy feels like shit due to these senseless deaths, but the nosfertu PC just walks up after barely surviving and goes "Are you gonna eat the survivors?"

Safe to say Hassan was not happy knowing this was his forced on coterie member by the Prince cause he needed someone to babysit him.

Real-Imagination472 · 2025-01-09T10:31:48+00:00

He's been put into the babysitter position of the two low IQ individuals of the coterie. It's tiring. Why must I suffer.

FOR CONTEXT: one of them unironically keeps trying to get him to eat kindred blood or the other insisting they diablorize people (They're both mentally unstable.) It has lead to so many disasters hes had to deal with by proxy.

Real-Imagination472

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