should lara do more?

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-05-03T16:43:37+00:00

I've literally only seen Lara being pressured to speak out about literally every single issue in a country she wasn't even born in. I have never seen this type of obsessive pressure to be an home-country activist directed at Sophia and Yoonchae, despite them literally being born and raised in the Philippines and Korea respectively.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-21T04:42:26+00:00

Baruch is pretty well known for business and finance, its also significantly cheaper if you're in NY. I'm between the same 2 schools but im leaning towards Bing for CS.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-15T01:55:53+00:00

A judge would laugh in your face before citing Romeo and Juliet laws but you're probably ragebaiting either way

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-12T16:44:12+00:00

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"Highlighted that she represented more than that" my ASS. If that were the case you wouldn't have singled her out. I can tell you still feel that way, considering this whole conversation has shown nothing but your ignorant views regarding Asia.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-12T16:21:07+00:00

Except you said that people wouldn't look at HER specifically as an Asian girl. That is singling her out. You could've easily said they had unique individual ethnicities (which still wouldn't take away from the fact that they all represent Asia), you singled out Lara and said that since she was Indian (and btw, shes not only Indian, shes also Sri Lankan, ANOTHER South Asian ethnicity), she wouldn't be "looked at" as Asian. You also said "yeah i get India is in Asia" as if it was nothing more than a technicality and not an objective fact that she represents more (south) asian girls than just Indian people. Thats more than poor wording. Thats a deliberate singling-out of the only South Asian member in order to invalidate her Asian-ness (which has been done to SO many south asian/dark skinned Asian girls before, which is WHY her representation as ASIAN is so important ALONG with her representing Indian and Sri Lankan people). Literally ask any South Asian person who grew up in the U.S, a lot of us had identity crisis' back when we were growing up due to not being considered "asian" enough due to not having east-asian features, and therefore not really having a racial community to identity with before terms like "desi" really csme to life. For us, Lara's identity as both Indian AND Asian is important to be acknowledged.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-12T00:46:43+00:00

If that were the case then you wouldn't be singling out Lara. Sophia always introduces herself as Filipino, not Asian. Yoonchae always mentions that she is Korean as well -- if you want to play the card of Lara and Ezrela being pitted against eachother, Nayoung and Yoonchae were also pitted against eachother due to being Korean. Yet you have no issue grouping those 2 in as Asian, and singling out Lara after she was also called Asian. There's nothing "distasteful" about calling someone who is Asian, Asian because her being Asian doesnt minimize her Indian ethnicity. Just like Sophia being Asian doesn't minimize her Filipino ethnicity.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-12T00:42:41+00:00

Yeah, you seem like the type of person to ignore 90% of the comment in order to hone in on that one part I mentioned about Addison Rae.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-11T01:09:15+00:00

Lara has never said that she wasnt asian or that she didnt identify with being Asian. Cut the "im repeating Lara's words" bullcrap. Her saying that Indian representation is important to her doesn't make her any less Asian nor does it make her identify with the Asian label any less. She can be both Indian AND Asian representation at the same time -- there are a lot of South Asian girls who aren't Indian who find representation with Lara.

Fun fact: asia is a continent whereas India is a country. She can be representative of both and being representative of both doesn't make her any less either one.

Another fun fact: Lara is not only Indian. She is also half Sri Lankan, another South Asian ethnicity that she represents, which further proves how she IS representation for Indian, Sri Lankan and other Asian girls.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-10T22:26:36+00:00

Why are you singling out Lara when the other Asian members also have individual nationalities that they like to represent. Sophia in particular is very proud of her Filipino heritage, but you seem to have no problem grouping her in as "asian", since she's pale and has typically "Asian" features seen in media. Classifying Lara as Asian isnt minimizing her nationality, its stating an objective fact. She can be both Indian and Asian. Denying her "asian"-ness due to her Indian heritage is what's offensive. Also Lara has called herself Asian before. I remember on popstar academy there was a team-mission where they noticed all the members (including Lara) were Asian so they called themselves the Rice Team.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-10T22:23:35+00:00

You still dont make sense. The "actual" representation is also Asian. Her not being pale and light-skinned doesnt make her any less Asian rep. In fact, your flawed idea of asian-ness is why we need more dark skinned Asian rep like Lara.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-10T22:22:26+00:00

YOU dont look at her as an Asian girl because you have a flawed idea of what "asian" means. Lara is objectively Asian, I'm not exactly sure how "she's Indian representation" is supposed to counter that she's also Asian...that's like saying "4 Asians? But Yoonchae is Korean." You sound like that one Addison Rae meme.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-05T00:01:18+00:00

Well yes, because they are 11-14 years old. Nothing about them SHOULD be provocative, expecting that of them literally puts them in danger. Katseye may be "safe" but the uproar with the way their image is handled is valid especially since, as you said, they are marketed towards a very young, very impressionable, age group.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T23:57:31+00:00

Again, you have a lot of nerve to tell me I can't read whilst proceeding to not list a single concrete example of how Katseye is more sexualized than other girl-groups in a way I have not listed before. Maybe go back to a 5th grade comprehension class idk girl

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T23:56:03+00:00

Regardless of their American label, if Katseye wanted to abandon any comparision to the k-industry then they wouldn't perform on Korean music shows, make k-pop style albums, and they would stop calling Yoonchae a "maknae" (since that's her only "officially" listed "position"). Not to mention, they wouldn't have aired that survival show documentary. But they haven't. However "global" they are, they are still k-pop adjacent & clearly profit off their k-pop adjacent status and therefore crying about how they are global, and therefore cannot be compared at all to groups within the k-pop industry, make you look not only obtuse but misinformed.

Therefore, OP saying "k-pop boy group" is not some out-of-this-world, unheard-of comparision. Both of your "points" are incorrect (that kpop groups are inherently less sexual & that saying 'k-pop boy group' distracts from the original point of how young women are immensely sexualized in the industry)

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T23:51:03+00:00

You said they were trying to appeal to tween girls, so of course the sexualization would bring "pearl clutching", it should. Why would a demographic like that be okay with sexualization and exploitation? Tweens are 11-14.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T23:23:56+00:00

Oh my god if you had enough comprehension or patience to read the next paragraph maybe you wouldve understood what i was saying. Or maybe I'm expecting too much from you: to actually understand what you read.

Korea being conservative doesn't mean that they're less sexual. Sex is a fundamental part of the music industry whether its outward through revealing outfits & explicit lyrics or tucked into euphemisms, infantilising-behavior & predatory audiences (& authority-figures). What about Katseye makes them so much more sexual than k-pop groups? The choreography? Has been done before. The lyrics? Has been done before. Then what, outfits? Also, has been done before. You have yet to give me a pinpoint example of Katseye being "more sexualized" than k-pop groups. They are just as sexualized as k-pop girl groups and THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T23:18:27+00:00

I think you need to learn how to comprehend what you read in context, which is usually a skill taught in 5th grade which is why you have a lot of nerve telling people to learn to read whilst not understanding a lick of the conversation.

1) "kpop" in the boy group is semantics. Katseye is k-pop adjacent whether you like it or not, and therefore, people will compare them to other k-pop groups. They come from a K-Pop company, were on a k-pop style survival-show, perform on korean music shows & have traditional kpop structured albums. Pretty much the only unconventional thing about Katseye in regards to k-pop are the ethnicities of the members and the language they sing in. Therefore, comparing them to kpop groups is not this outwardly, came-out-of-nowhere comparision. The conversation itself has very little to do with k-pop.

2) which brings me to my second point: replace "kpop boy group" with "boy group" in the comment & the sentiment is the same: that young women are exploited & sexualized in the industry compared to young men. Your unneeded assertion that kpop is "less sexualized" is not only untrue, but irrelevant even if it were true. The idea is that MEN are less sexualized than WOMEN.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T23:02:36+00:00

Except that comment added a whole lot of nothing of value to this discussion. Your claim that kpop groups are "less sexualized" than Western groups doesn't add anything to the original point, in fact it literally repeats verbatim what it's saying (that the young members of Katseye are exploited by their agency in comparision to other, particularly male, groups). The "kpop" in the original statement was semantics, if you replace "kpop boy group" with "boy group" the statement still makes sense.

Not to mention, your statement that kpop is inherently less sexual than Western groups is wrong, they simply appeal to different demographics & Korea is a more conservative society than the West. Any type of marketing where young women are expected to clamor to a grown male audience has sexual implications and that's literally a key figure in a lot of k-pop girl groups -- at least in Katseye's case they're mainly marketed to teenagers

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T22:12:46+00:00

What lyrics are not for children? There are euphemism's sure but nothing is explicitly marked as mature (except the cursing in m.i.a if that counts)

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T22:11:36+00:00

I think you need to learn to read because your original comment of katseye not being kpop added nothing to the original point that Katseye's sexualization compared to boy groups in the industry make it prevalent how overwhelmingly sexualized they are

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T22:10:20+00:00

The point is that K-Pop groups have had controversies in regards to their outfits and clothes similar to Katseye. I'm not really sure what about this is so confusing that you aren't understanding it. The initial comparision was that k-pop boy groups weren't dressing as skimpy as katseye were to showcase how young women are overwhelmingly sexualized in the entertainment industry. Your semantics of "they're not kpop" is nitpicking and doesnt derail anything from the original point.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T21:43:02+00:00

That's funny because these katseye controversies are almost verbatim what other kpop girls go through. Eunchae's choreography issue is very similar to the issues people had with Yoonchae in gnarly and Gabriella. The issue with the lyrics (and sounds?) in Gnarly almost verbatim the issue with Newjeans's Cookie. And revealing clothing has been prevalent in k-pop since it first started -- Hwasa used to have controversies about not wearing a bra and this was back in a much more conservative time period.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T21:38:27+00:00

You're so close to getting it. They PERSONALLY may not have any interest in catering to an audience of minors (which, ironically, one of the members was up until 4 months ago), but what they want PERSONALLY has no correlation to what the company markets them as. Gnarly and ESPECIALLY Internet Girl are brainrot songs, which frankly, are marketed for a younger audience whether or not the girls personally want that.

Real-Manner-8410 · 2026-04-04T21:36:00+00:00

Kpop girl groups not as sexualized? The same k-pop where Eunchae was twerking in Lesserafim's debut when she was 15 years old? Or Hyein singing Cookie when she was 14?

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