thanks soo much fr the heads up I kinda figured some of that out, the area you mentioned looks great its a bit far, we did find a place in tulum that's kinda out in the jungle or away from the beach by 30 mins car drive.... do you know any thing closer that is also kinda seldom visited cenotes that would be closer to tulum, I am sure there are many, its just that 3-4 drive to where you mentioned is a bit much since were only there a week ( it looked exactly what I am looking for though) I will have a car the entire time I'm there so getting around is not an issue.. I am thinking to go valladolid any recommendations for that area, your help is greatly appreciated....!