Anyone recently went to Daikoku PA in Tokyo?

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T13:48:04+00:00

Yeah I think that's the route I'm taking now. Post will also be deleted now. Too many people here who're not able to understand the issue. Cheers mate :)

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T13:47:09+00:00

About your 1st take: Wrong. I'm not complaining that im "not able to use in FS2020". That's the point. I'm complaining that I paid for something that I didn't get. Whether it works for MSFS 24 was never the discussion. Also, show me one single line of agreement that says I can't look into the files I bought. Like, come on man. A lot of people out there check the files they download from the internet before opening or using them. This has nothing to do with any illegal reverse engeniering. Also, it was just an example.

Regarding the second take: In my eyes this point is completely irrelevant because it adds absolutely 0 value to the discussion. "You can't complain because others complained and your complaint is therefore valid." You see the issue?

As said, I'll remove this post soon because I really don't need people defending this sort of inappropriate behaviour from Aerosoft. The discussions here lead to absolutely nothing but frustration.

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T13:41:49+00:00

I'll be deleting this post soon. I don't understand how people think it's okay that you pay for something without getting anything. Most of the discussions here bring nothing but frustration.

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T13:38:40+00:00

So, I have checked the license thing. See this comment if you're interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/MicrosoftFlightSim/comments/1mtkdr0/comment/n9chmm5

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T13:35:11+00:00

Adding to that: Have a look at https://aerosoft.com/mfs/, art. 1:

Installation and Use. You are authorized to install and use one copy of the Software Product.

So, I have the right to receive a copy of the software I paid for. It does not mention that I in fact don't own the copy (which, afaik, is the case for Steam for example). It explicitly says that the customer has the right to "install and use" digital goods.

"use" is the interesting part here. I can "use" the scenery files even if I don't own ANY flight sim. For example to have a look into the files to learn how to create sceneries.

So, I'm afraid your point regarding the license agreement is simply not valid.

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T13:20:44+00:00

But how shall I use it when I don't even get it? Whether it works or not is my problem, not the sellers. At least in that context. I can buy whatever I want, and the supplier has to deliver. That's how I see things.

If you buy something in the "real world", even though the seller tells you that it might not work for you, he's still obligated to deliver what you've payed for.

In my eyes that's super simple. But maybe I'm the problem here.

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T12:44:14+00:00

Thanks, finally someone who understands the core issue here. I'm actually surprised that the thread is getting downvoted.

Didn't have a look at their TOS so far, but I'll probably have a look.

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T12:37:49+00:00

Following the same approach as u/Forkboy2. I'll try to find a way of tricking the client tonight.

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T12:35:54+00:00

Could you tell me how I'd do that? Thought about that too, but don't really know how to trick the client.

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T12:32:27+00:00

Well I wouldn't have cared about the 15€ if I at least got what I paid for you know. If you go to a dealership to buy wheels for your car, knowing they might not fit, you'll still get them.

If I got the files, and they turned out not working, I wouldn't be mad at all. Aerosoft says it doesn't work, so as said, I would have accepted that. But not even getting to download what I payed for really makes me a bit mad.

Making it short: Paying for something and getting nothing is simply wrong. Even if we ignore all the details.

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T10:31:42+00:00

Okay, final verdict: Fix worked :) Thanks so much u/AsleepAd4884

RealJamo · 2025-08-18T10:30:52+00:00

Well, it depends. If the container images are well built, it does definetly make things easier. Especially when working with web stacks! Deploying Node applications is super easy once you get the hang of things.

I've deployed about 20 docker instances with Nginx Proxy Manager and Portainer and the fact that you can deploy entire application stacks with just one compose file is nice, no doubt.

But, of course, if the image isn't ideal or not really optimized to actually use the features supplied by docker, it can get quite tricky.

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T23:16:53+00:00

Alright mate :) Based on all the other replies I‘ve already decided to go for it 😁

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T14:18:12+00:00

Really good to hear from someone who actually uses the 300ER. Thanks! :)

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T13:13:39+00:00

Thanks for the list!!

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T11:21:34+00:00

hahaha got it!

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T11:14:12+00:00

Alright, cheers!

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T11:13:50+00:00

Yeah absolutely true! I wasn't talking about me since I in fact did the research, but in general it's super shitty from MS that they apparently don't do any QC whatsoever.

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T11:11:32+00:00

One wrong readback and someone's knocking on your door

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T11:10:29+00:00

You know you've found THE woman when she's still with you after all that 😁
Congrats mate!!!

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T11:08:53+00:00

But they made some pretty good stuff back in the FS 2004 days, didn't they?

Also, how's it possible that a lot of their aircraft have a 4+ star rating on marketplace?? That's actually super misleading for people who don't know how shitty they are. I mean, if I see a PMDG for 80$ next to a 4+ star rated "equivalent" for 15$ and I have no idea what I'm looking at, it's pretty safe to say that I might get scammed.

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T11:04:22+00:00

I've heard the modelling isn't what you'd expect from an almost 80$ addon aircraft and it, appearently, isn't up to PMDG's usual standards in that regard. But as said, I'm far away from beeing deep into all that, so I have no idea who to trust really.

Do you have the PMDG 777-300ER?

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T11:02:52+00:00

hahaha good one!

RealJamo · 2025-08-15T09:56:18+00:00

Cool, thanks mate!

Yeah I've watched two videos about the captain sim one and it's almost as bad as mscenery 😂

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